Sasuke surpassed Madara

[TrollKing]

It's too complicate for your simple mind to understandU_U

What so complicated, you simply switched the topic completely which you repeated so many times that I have no doubt anymore

 

[Blackzoro]

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Bring manga facts only fan fics you have over there get lost Maddy>Sasuce and Naruto>sasuce

Thread soloed/

 

[solorflare99]

What so complicated, you simply switched the topic completely which you repeated so many times that I have no doubt anymore

You are correct, it isn't complicated. That is what makes so sad. You tried hard, but can't comprehend U_U. I already explained by point.

It was to make a point that Sasuke has outside help to get the power he has now. It's called an example. Not a hard concept to grasp. My point is despite that I still give Sasuke the credit he deserves, and Madara should be treated the same.

It doesn't matter that Sasuke has all that outside help, just like it doesn't matter that Madara has outside help. It was the other guy trying to do discredit outside help, not me. It's bias to say Madara's feats don't count simply because he had outside help, but still consider the "solo glance" despite Sasuke needing outside help to even gain the power to do such a thing. That guy was being bias.

A good way to avoid getting confused and looking stupid in the process is to not get into other people's conversation.

I recall that was Madara+Juubi+Shinju

I recall this is Sasuke with a gift from Itachi and Hogoromo. Rinnegan for Sasuke was literally a handout, and as a bonus was given rikudo chakra.

I was using his own logic against him. I don't care that Sasuke has a "gift from Itachi and Hogoromo", however if that guy wants to apply his logic to discredit Madara, then his own logic discredit Sasuke as well.

I actually took the effort to school you, because I would feel bully if all I did was treat you like an idiot without explanation. Hopefully you don't make these mistakes in the future.

 

[TrollKing]

You are correct, it isn't complicated. That is what makes so sad. You tried hard, but can't comprehend U_U. I already explained by point.



It doesn't matter that Sasuke has all that outside help, just like it doesn't matter that Madara has outside help. It was the other guy trying to do discredit outside help, not me. It's bias to say Madara's feats don't count simply because he had outside help, but still consider the "solo glance" despite Sasuke needing outside help to even gain the power to do such a thing. That guy was being bias.

A good way to avoid getting confused and looking stupid in the process is to not get into other people's conversation.





I was using his own logic against him. I don't care that Sasuke has a "gift from Itachi and Hogoromo", however if that guy wants to apply his logic to discredit Madara, then his own logic discredit Sasuke as well.

I actually took the effort to school you, because I would feel bully if all I did was treat you like an idiot without explanation. Hopefully you don't make these mistakes in the future.

You confirming you are off topic. He said jubi/biju/shinju while you switched it to "outside help"

His logic is without bijuu, not without any powerup. If you want to use his logic, then take off the bijuus from both madara and sasuke. Taking away eyes is your logic, not his

 

[solorflare99]

You confirming you are off topic. He said jubi/biju/shinju while you switched it to "outside help"

His logic is without bijuu, not without any powerup. If you want to use his logic, then take off the bijuus from both madara and sasuke. Taking away eyes is your logic, not his

The topic of discussion is "Sasuke surpassed Madara", not Sasuke vs Madara, bijuu restricted. If it said Sasuke surpassed Madara before he became the juubi jinchuriki, then you would have a point.

It is bias to claim Sasuke is superior due to power up, but disregard Madara's power up.

Spoiler

Try harder :bdpf:

 

[TrollKing]

The topic of discussion is "Sasuke surpassed Madara", not Sasuke vs Madara, bijuu restricted. If it said Sasuke surpassed Madara before he became the juubi jinchuriki, then you would have a point.

It is bias to claim Sasuke is superior due to power up, but disregard Madara's power up.

Spoiler

Try harder :bdpf:

The post was "I recalled that was madara + jubi + shinju"

Were you responding to the post or to the thread?

 

[solorflare99]

The post was "I recalled that was madara + jubi + shinju"

Were you responding to the post or to the thread?

If you notice I was responding to the thread and he responded to me.

 

[thood]

Guys stop. You're arguing with a Kage level troll and one of the largest Sasuke fappers on the base. This whole post became absolute rubbish as soon as OP used video games to support a weak arguement.

 

[TrollKing]

If you notice I was responding to the thread and he responded to me.

Then you shouldn't have quoted the post. By quoting the post, you are replying to the post. And you requoted that post for a couple of times. So you were replying to the post base on your replies

 

[Lord of Order]

Honestly this is fanfic and you know it

I can understand your assumption, however, in reality: For an Uchiha who should wield several different types of weaponry, his reflexes were too poor to deflect the blades, save his child and avoid injury. Something Madara does effortlessly based on the scans provided that he was able to engage several shinobi at close distance, evaded or defended against all their offences and reacted at a pace faster than the eye could follow. Gaiden Sasuke's reflexes in comparison, is in all honesty rubbish.

True they both possess a Kanzentai Susano'o, however Sasuke's is vastly inferior in terms of size and feats to Suggest that it wields destructive force and durability comparable to Madara's.

@ Bold: Scans?


@ Red:

Chibaku Tensei is countered by a destruction incarnate sword swipe from Madara.
Bansho Tennin can be resisted by anchoring with Susano'os weaponry.
Shinra Tensei isn't budging the defenses of Madara's Kanzentai Susano'o.
Preta path requires Sasuke to be within 6 inches (extent of preta's orb from the body) of Madara or his Susano'o. He's bisected.
Human path is countered by Madara remaining in Susano'o.
Animal path is countered by Madara's Susano'o wielding Bunshin's.
Gedou Mazou is sliced in 2.
Naraka path serves no purpose.

@ underlined: Tell me, TrollKing; why are you undermining a character's abilities showcased in the Manga to trend with a common belief?

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[solorflare99]

Then you shouldn't have quoted the post. By quoting the post, you are replying to the post. And you requoted that post for a couple of times. So you were replying to the post base on your replies

I shouldn't quote someone who quotes me? Do you not get how conversations work?

Topic is Sasuke surpassed Madara
I respond Madara is superior because......
He responds Madara isn't superior because...........
I respond that logic is bias, how about I use that logic against you.........

That is the basic premise of the convo we had. If you don't understand, I suggest you don't get into others conversation .

 

[TrollKing]

I shouldn't quote someone who quotes me? Do you not get how conversations work?

Topic is Sasuke surpassed Madara
I respond Madara is superior because......
He responds Madara isn't superior because...........
I respond that logic is bias, how about I use that logic against you.........

That is the basic premise of the convo we had. If you don't understand, I suggest you don't get into others conversation .

He had already clarify he was talking about madara without bijuu and sakura without bijuu, nothing change

Both without bijuu while retaining their eyes. Fair and square

 

[Dr Boomi]

Nonsense. The manga is over and Sasuke has yet to surpass Madara.

 

[solorflare99]

He had already clarify he was talking about madara without bijuu and sakura without bijuu, nothing change

Both without bijuu while retaining their eyes. Fair and square

No he didn't. He hasn't even responded to me. Not only that their is nothing to clarify. All it says is "Sasuke surpassed Madara, Sasuke can create Chibaku Tensei with a glance!" nothing indicates both without bijuu, nor did his response indicate such a thing. Also as I have explain why provide Sasuke with a power up and Not Madara? That is what is bias. Even if Madara and Sasuke both have rinnegan Sasuke still has half of hogoromo's chakra. In which he clearly is using to support his claim.

Spoiler

git gud scrub:bdpf:

 

[HENI]

Nonsense. The manga is over and Sasuke has yet to surpass Madara.

Sasuke surpassed Madara by the end of Shipuden

 

[TrollKing]

No he didn't. He hasn't even responded to me. Not only that their is nothing to clarify. All it says is "Sasuke surpassed Madara, Sasuke can create Chibaku Tensei with a glance!" nothing indicates both without bijuu, nor did his response indicate such a thing. Also as I have explain why provide Sasuke with a power up and Not Madara? That is what is bias. Even if Madara and Sasuke both have rinnegan Sasuke still has half of hogoromo's chakra. In which he clearly is using to support his claim.

Spoiler

git gud scrub:bdpf:

He said that was madara + shinju + jubi. So yes he indicated what which madara

Rinnegan madara doesn't have hago's chakra? Rinnegan itself is hago chakra.

If you talking about yin seal, it is pretty much featless and sasuke lost it long time ago

Madara without yin seal can form black stick while sasuke with yin seal can't? They are even

 

[solorflare99]

He said that was madara + shinju + jubi. So yes he indicated what which madara

Rinnegan madara doesn't have hago's chakra? Rinnegan itself is hago chakra.

If you talking about yin seal, it is pretty much featless and sasuke lost it long time ago

Madara without yin seal can form black stick while sasuke with yin seal can't? They are even

You are joking right now?
Rikudo Senjutsu Chakra is something you can only get from the juubi or juubi jinchurki. Madara never had it until he became the juubi jinchurki. That stuff gives a huge chakra boost. Kakashi was able to use perfect susanoo and harm Kaguya with. You aren't going to seriously tell me that Sasuke before rinnegan and Sasuke after had the same physical stats are you. When Sasuke got half of Hagoromo's chakra all of his physical attributes were boosted.

 

[TrollKing]

You are joking right now?
Rikudo Senjutsu Chakra is something you can only get from the juubi or juubi jinchurki. Madara never had it until he became the juubi jinchurki. That stuff gives a huge chakra boost. Kakashi was able to use perfect susanoo and harm Kaguya with. You aren't going to seriously tell me that Sasuke before rinnegan and Sasuke after had the same physical stats are you. When Sasuke got half of Hagoromo's chakra all of his physical attributes were boosted.

So now sasuke has rikudo senjutsu chakra? You know what people called those who can access rikudo senjutsu chakra?

Rikudo Senjutsu Mode - rsm

Sasuke has rikudo chakra, not rsm. Well if you insist, I don't have a problem with that. You just have to let me know you are one out of thousand that believes that

Sasuke had rikudo chakra from yin seal. Losing yin seal, he still has hago chakra. How? Rinnegan is rikudo chakra

 

[solorflare99]

So now sasuke has rikudo senjutsu chakra? You know what people called those who can access rikudo senjutsu chakra?

Rikudo Senjutsu Mode - rsm

Sasuke has rikudo chakra, not rsm. Well if you insist, I don't have a problem with that. You just have to let me know you are one out of thousand that believes that

Sasuke had rikudo chakra from yin seal. Losing yin seal, he still has hago chakra. How? Rinnegan is rikudo chakra

He has the chakra not RSM. They have explained that it has to be senjutsu in order for it to even damage some one with Yin-Yang release. You don't have to have Sage mode to use senjutsu chakra, clear example is Sasuke, Kakashi and Orochimaru.

Give Madara half of hagoromo's chakra and then you can say it would be a fair match.

 

[TheUnbiasedOne]

Sasuke far surpassed him in every conceivable way. Leaps and bounds speedwise. His susanoo is Madara's on steroids. Only thing they might be equal in is chakra quantity. And that's iffy.