Sasuke has already Redeemed Himself for his Crimes!

[Styles]

No he hasn't. He helped revive the 10 tails, he's just as much to blame for all this as Obito is.

:| Obito cut off a tentical during the war so even without Sasuke Juubi would have been revived.

 

[90sKids98]

exactly if he didn't get eight tails wouldn't be alive doesn't matter if hes helping now thousands died including neji .

Their Lives were Fodder Like and That was dirwctly caused by Obito and Madara. You are ignoring the fact that Sasuke still helped defeat Obito and Fought Madara to stop IT.

 

[LeSauce]

He would've been forgiven for simply joining their side, just like everyone else

 

[Tantalus Thief]

Yeah I agree. He has done crimes but his later actions redeem it.

 

[KisuneUchiha]

sasuke should be hung

If that is the case he might as well not even help out in the war, let's see how far they get Lol

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

he technically helped .

If by help you mean betray Obito after getting his EMS and helping to end Edo Tensei then yes.

 

[KisuneUchiha]

he technically helped .

If Sasuke didn't help, Tobi could have done it himself, quite easily actually lol

-appears out of the blue-
-grabs KB and drags him into Kamui dimension-
-proceeds to extract Gyuki from KB-
Gg

 

[SasukeSaviourofUchiha]

Naruto is just as much to blame for the thousands of shinobi deaths. He can't save anybody...even Obito stated it. Hokage material? I don't think so...

 

[KisuneUchiha]

Naruto is just as much to blame for the thousands of shinobi deaths. He can't save anybody...even Obito stated it. Hokage material? I don't think so...

Lol your second quote is on spot, ppl don't realize it though

 

[xxSAGExx]

Seriously, he already has, even before he became Akatsuki, there are a ton of good things Sasuke has done even after he left the Leaf Village.

-"Killed" Orochimaru
-Killed Itachi, who was a "traitor" to the Leaf
-Killed Deidara, a member of the Akatsuki


After the Kage Summit, Sasuke again did many good things that changed the war.

-Helped stop Edo Tensei
-Helped revive Edo Hokages, who helped fight for the S.A.
-Had Karin, and Suigetsu go with Oro to help heal the 5 Kage
-Helped Fight Juubi Fodder/Juubi
-Helped in defeating Juubito
-Fought Sage Madara to stop IT
-Is helping atm seal Kaguya to save the world.

It doesn't matter at this point what Sasuke did, he's helping in a way the S.A and Naruto couldn't do on their own.

-He didn't kill Oro, he suppressed him in his body and he later returned when Sasuke's chakra was too low to suppress him.
-Killing Itachi ended Obito's pact with him and Nagato destroyed Konoha
-Deidara killed himself thinking he would take Sasuke out with him

-He had no interest in stopping edo tensei, he only wanted to talk to Itachi and either tried killing Kabuto or was protecting Itachi after he protected Sasuke.
-He revived them to talk, if he didn't like their answer then he would have destroyed Konoha then and there.
-Orochimaru did that themselves, they both call Orochimaru "Lord Orochimaru" and still does what he says and Sasuke didn't know the Kages were there.
-He helped revived the Juubi
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Yes it does matter, he indirectly caused many people to die and all he made up for is help causing the danger that is around now but he have not made up for the many lives he caused to be lost.

Again, he's been redeeming himself by already stopping Juubito, and stopping Kaguya atm. So that doesn't even matter anymore

He caused many people to die so it does matter and he wouldn't need to help stop Obito, Madara, or Kaguya if he didn't help revive the Juubi. Sasuke also aided in the war starting by attacking the Kage summit which is where Obito saved him then told them about the war. Yes Obito could have done that without Sasuke but the fact is Sasuke still aided him and cause A to lose an arm which is also him aiding Obito's team.

Yes he did.
People blaming him for the tentacle are biased, unlike Obito he didn't do it with the intention of reviving the ten tails, anyone blaming him for that should also blame Naruto and Killer B for leaving the island since that allowed Madara to achieve IT and Kaguya to get revived.

Nope. It doesn't matter if Sasuke had the intention, him still helping is him indirectly reviving the Juubi while Obito is directly. Oh? So I guess you haven't thought about the fact that if Naruto and Bee didn't go into the war which Sasuke helped to start then that means the Alliance wouldn't know who were white zetsus, Itachi would still be under Kabuto control since Naruto has KA, Nagato would still be under Kabuto control, Sasuke would still be evil and might either be dead or captured by Kabuto or his Edo's, Obito would still have his 6 path of edo Jins to fight people. So yeah, darn that Naruto and Bee for stopping all of that chaos that would have happened had they not went to war (shakes fist).

:| Obito cut off a tentical during the war so even without Sasuke Juubi would have been revived.

Nope, he cut off Bee's tentacle after he already started the Juubi revival process and he did it because Naruto and the others were attacking it. Here is the tentacle

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that's 2 chapters away and it's not guaranteed that Obito would even get that tail since he didn't even try to in the manga and every little bit of Bijuu chakra helps.

Their Lives were Fodder Like and That was dirwctly caused by Obito and Madara. You are ignoring the fact that Sasuke still helped defeat Obito and Fought Madara to stop IT.

It doesn't matter if they were fodders or not, those in the alliance will only see that their friends/family/comrades are dead and the juubi and those who revived the Juubi are to blame. Obito and Madara were directly involve and Sasuke was indirectly involved. And you're ignoring the fact that Sasuke gave rise to the power to Obito and Madara which he helped to stop so all he did was make up for helping them have that power (Juubi) but he does not make up anything else he has done.

Killing Danzo was a crime, that's an Hokage fill in and even though I agree he deserve to die, killing him off the bat is not how Konoha does things; they hold a court and do research to get all of the facts. He left Konoha to join Orochimaru and was suppose to have a kill order on him as a missing ninja but Tsunade didn't do it for Naruto and Sakura. He killed Samurais from a neutral land, attacked the Kages, became an international criminal, attacked and attempted to capture Bee which ended up aiding in the Juubi revival, and he showed no signs of regret over his actions.

Also calling all of those people who died fodders can be countered by me saying look at Sasuke's reaction when his fodder clan was killed. That's you're logic, to me fodders are Genin and low Chunins while high Chunins and up are not. Sasuke's reaction to his family is evidences enough that it doesn't matter how strong they are, losing those you love is devastating. Oh and only a few Uchihas unlocked their Sharingans as Sasuke stated in part 1 so yes most of them were Sharingan-less Genins, Chunins, and/or Jounins.

 

[DarkStar1]

Naruto is just as much to blame for the thousands of shinobi deaths. He can't save anybody...even Obito stated it. Hokage material? I don't think so...

You're not very smart, are you?

ON topic, no he hasn't. Itachi took out ET, not Sasuke. Itachi killed Orochimaru, not Sasuke. Orochimaru had Karin heal the Kage, not Sasuke. Stop giving credit for shit he didn't do.

 

[Zlatán]

Look Gaara who committed worse crimes without any true intentions has been forgiven and even became Kazekage. He betrayed the leaf and killed so many innocence people. You guys are forgetting this is a story based of shinobi's, it's kill or be killed stop comparing it to real life. Sasuke himself said 'stand in my way and I will kill you' meaning he won't kill without a reason, even Kishi said himself Sasuke hates pointless deaths. Sasuke was ordered to capture Bee which he failed and didn't care. He went to the 5 Kage summit solely to kill Danzo nothing else. He had a grudge against the leaf for what they did to his clan and brother but after the truth he decided to go against his revenge and actually help save the world, which is what he is doing now! No matter what happens there will be no Sasuke vs Naruto, because what Naruto promised Hagoromo on making peace between the reincarnation of Indra and Ashura (himself and Sasuke)! Sasuke will be forgiven just like Kakashi and Gaara!

 

[ComplexCity]

Sasuke indirectly aided the Alliance. But I don't see how this makes his crimes... redeemable

 

[~Ethereal~]

I think, the shinobi world needs to redeem themselves to Sasuke, I mean it's terrible.

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

You're not very smart, are you?

ON topic, no he hasn't. Itachi took out ET, not Sasuke. Itachi killed Orochimaru, not Sasuke. Orochimaru had Karin heal the Kage, not Sasuke. Stop giving credit for shit he didn't do.

Or maybe you should stop minimizing the impact Sasuke had on the war.

Wthout him being there Itachi would've gotten captured by Kabuto.

Without him the Edo Hokage would never be revived and Obito/Madara would've won the war.

Without Sasuke Naruto would've been trapped in IT along with everyone else.

 

[Howling Fox]

ya he didnt do any of that shit

that was all itachi.

next thread.

 

[ComplexCity]

Or maybe you should stop minimizing the impact Sasuke had on the war.

Wthout him being there Itachi would've gotten captured by Kabuto.

Without him the Edo Hokage would never be revived and Obito/Madara would've won the war.

Without Sasuke Naruto would've been trapped in IT along with everyone else.

You seem to misunderstand his point. Most of the things people are giving him credit for he didn't do

 

[KingHashirama]

His only bad thing was assisting with the 8-tails.. which they would've gotten without sasuke also..

I don't recall any other bad thing he did.

 

[xxSAGExx]

Look Gaara who committed worse crimes without any true intentions has been forgiven and even became Kazekage. He betrayed the leaf and killed so many innocence people. You guys are forgetting this is a story based of shinobi's, it's kill or be killed stop comparing it to real life. Sasuke himself said 'stand in my way and I will kill you' meaning he won't kill without a reason, even Kishi said himself Sasuke hates pointless deaths. Sasuke was ordered to capture Bee which he failed and didn't care. He went to the 5 Kage summit solely to kill Danzo nothing else. He had a grudge against the leaf for what they did to his clan and brother but after the truth he decided to go against his revenge and actually help save the world, which is what he is doing now! No matter what happens there will be no Sasuke vs Naruto, because what Naruto promised Hagoromo on making peace between the reincarnation of Indra and Ashura (himself and Sasuke)! Sasuke will be forgiven just like Kakashi and Gaara!

Gaara did not commited worse crimes lol Yes he killed people but he killed people in Suna where as Sasuke directly and indirectly killed people from all 5 nations due to his actions. Gaara killed people to make himself feel alive since he was raised to think he was unloved by everyone and had assassins sent by his own father to kill him. He also had Shukaku influencing him while he thought it was his mother's voice telling him to kill. Gaara didn't betray the leaf, he was following his orders that Suna gave him when Orochimaru killed his dad and pretended to be him as he ordered Suna and sound to attack Konoha.

Gaara also worked really hard to earn everyone's forgiveness and wanted to have bonds with everyone in his village. Upon getting to the battlefield, Sasuke told Shikamaru, Shino, and Kiba he doesn't care what they think so that right there shows the differences between him and Gaara when he doesn't care to earn the forgiveness and build bonds from people who are in the very clan he wants to be Hokage in. So Sasuke's actions resulted in more people's death from all 5 nations (Juubi), became an international criminal, joined Akatsuki, showed to not care to save Sakura or Kakashi and only save Naruto due to needing him. Clearly no one can compare Sasuke to Gaara when Sasuke showed no interest in being forgiven nor have bonds with anyone while Gaara has and Gaara's actions never threaten his village as Sasuke's actions did (A sent a team to Konoha to get all info on Sasuke and permission to kill him).

I think, the shinobi world needs to redeem themselves to Sasuke, I mean it's terrible.

Oh like Sasuke is the only person who have a bad life. Kaguya and Haku had their clans hunted down until it was just them, Uzumaki clan was nearly wiped out, Tsunade is the only Senju we see, Minato is the only Namikaze we see, Kabuto was made to kill his mother figure, and it goes on.

 

[DarkStar1]

Or maybe you should stop minimizing the impact Sasuke had on the war.

Wthout him being there Itachi would've gotten captured by Kabuto.

Without him the Edo Hokage would never be revived and Obito/Madara would've won the war.

Without Sasuke Naruto would've been trapped in IT along with everyone else.

Or maybe you should stop wanking and look at it subjectively. He barely did anything against Kabuto, and Itachi was the one who broke Edo Tensei. He revived Orochimaru to ask him to Edo Tensei the Hokage; to which Orochimaru could have easily used the Hokage to murder Sasuke and aid the enemy in the war. Without Sasuke, Naruto would have gotten Hagoromo's full power and been able to resist it, not to mention, it's unknown even if IT would effect Naruto; Sasuke knows nothing of the jutsu, he clearly didn't know it would not effect Edo Tensei but it hasn't.

Not only was he not actively doing any of these things, but he was only doing them for his own gain. If Hitler had counterattacked Japan after Pearl Harbor, would we have signed a treaty with him despite all the shit he had done up to that point? No, because that would be utterly retarded and his motives are those of self-preservation, not out of the goodness of his heart. Same with Sasuke.