Sasuke had a stronger body than Naruto

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As for them being in base, it's not really a fair comparison considering the fact that Sasuke never really is in base, unless he completely has his dojutsu shut down. Naruto using bijuu chakra is rightfully his own power and thus shouldn't be considered something different.

In any case, it doesn't matter how you look at it, Naruto by far has the largest body feats in the entire manga. Meanwhile Sasuke hardly has any.

GG. :win:

This is all extraneous information because Naruto's Bijuu Chakra being a deserved power he possesses is irrelevant to the thread. We know that Naruto w/ Bijuu Chakra is stronger than Rinnegan Sasuke in terms of physical strength, but the OP is concluding that Rinnegan Sasuke is physically stronger than Base Naruto for the reasons you presented such as Sasuke never being in base to begin with.

If Rinnegan Sasuke can compete with RSM Naruto in speed, then obviously he's physically superior to Base Naruto. Of course, faps choose to denigrate Sasuke and argue that he is weaker than even Base Naruto from silly posts that choose to analyze the manga superficially and injudiciously rather than holistically.
 

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Sasuke had no chakra left either which is the basis for Sasuke's superiority.

What're you arguing again?

superiority in what?..also can you not interpret?...you typed that base naruto cannot match sasuke's strength...I showed a tired naruto can knock sasuke into a freaking mountain wall...I typed nothing about base sasuke's strength...once again can you not interpret?
 

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superiority in what?..also can you not interpret?...you typed that base naruto cannot match sasuke's strength...I showed a tired naruto can knock sasuke into a freaking mountain wall...I typed nothing about base sasuke's strength...once again can you not interpret?

And Sasuke literally had no chakra and his chakra is the main reason why he outclasses Base Naruto.

You're really clever by describing Naruto as "tired" without doing the same for Sasuke. You're definitely not a biased poster at all ...
 

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Sasuke had no chakra left either which is the basis for Sasuke's superiority.

What're you arguing again?

So he had no chakra left even though he just absorbed chakra?

OP: Manga and even the fight you use as evidence says otherwise.a
 
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So he had no chakra left even though he just absorbed chakra?

OP: Manga and even the fight you use as evidence says otherwise.a

You mean enough chakra to only utilize one jutsu?

Yeah, I'd say "no chakra" is about accurate fam. :bdpf:
 

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Can Naruto match Sasuke's speed without the chakra of 9 bijuu ? No.

Can Naruto match Sasuke's jutsu without the chakra of 9 bijuu ? No.

Case closed.

You mean enough chakra to only utilize one jutsu?

Yeah, I'd say "no chakra" is about accurate fam. :bdpf:

Keep smoking that delusion fam :Sparks:
 

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And Sasuke literally had no chakra and his chakra is the main reason why he outclasses Base Naruto.

You're really clever by describing Naruto as "tired" without doing the same for Sasuke. You're definitely not a biased poster at all ...

bro...THEY BOTH HAD NO CHAKRA...a tired naruto can launch sasuke into next week...my post was to show that naruto's base strength IS COMPARABLE to base sasuke...IF THEY WERE BOTH OUT OF CHAKRA THEN WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF THEY BOTH HAD CHAKRA???

you're calling ME BIASED?...LMAOOOO this coming from one of the biggest sasuke dickriders I know...go see some of my sasuke threads if you wanna call me biased...I LITERALLY don't have a favorite character in naruto
 

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bro...THEY BOTH HAD NO CHAKRA...a tired naruto can launch sasuke into next week...my post was to show that naruto's base strength IS COMPARABLE to base sasuke...IF THEY WERE BOTH OUT OF CHAKRA THEN WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF THEY BOTH HAD CHAKRA???

you're calling ME BIASED?...LMAOOOO this coming from one of the biggest sasuke dickriders I know...go see some of my sasuke threads if you wanna call me biased...I LITERALLY don't have a favorite character in naruto

The reason why Sasuke was ahead of him was due to disparity in chakra. If you strip chakra away from both of them, then obviously the chakra disparity between them would be non-existent given that a chakra disparity wouldn't exist without chakra.

If you don't comprehend simple logic, then there's no need to delve in any deeper.
 

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The reason why Sasuke was ahead of him was due to disparity in chakra. If you strip chakra away from both of them, then obviously the chakra disparity between them would be non-existent given that a chakra disparity wouldn't exist without chakra.

If you don't comprehend simple logic, then there's no need to delve in any deeper.

oh so because of chakra disparity sasuke isn't supposed to have as strong a punch as naruto...oh ok....yea that is some A1 genius level logic to comprehend right there...both tired naruto and tired sasuke are terrible examples of showing how basic naruto and basic sasuke are COMPARABLE in strength rather than [and I quote: "It's laughable that people think Base Naruto can match Sasuke in strength."] incomparable like you claimed...silly me
 

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oh so because of chakra disparity sasuke isn't supposed to have as strong a punch as naruto...oh ok....yea that is some A1 genius level logic to comprehend right there...both tired naruto and tired sasuke are terrible examples of showing how basic naruto and basic sasuke are COMPARABLE in strength rather than [and I quote: "It's laughable that people think Base Naruto can match Sasuke in strength."] incomparable like you claimed...silly me

I meant that Sasuke can no longer retain his edge over Naruto when he's deprived of the very thing that gave him the decisive advantage over Base Naruto in the first place. Distorting my words with the pretense of trying to depict me as a fool is purely dishonest and simply shows that you cannot handle a debate appropriately.
 

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He took enhancements before that. When he was put into that tub by orochimaru's guards, they gave sasuke drugs to enhance and awaken his CM2. So he did take drugs to get stronger, tsunade a medic and kakashi his Sensei said he couldn't have gotten stronger that quickly otherwise.
@Bold finfic Kakashi said nothing like that because he knows that Sasuke is a fast learner and have a fast growth rate.
Yes Sakura told Tsunade about Sasuke's progress and Tsunade came to the conclusion which Sakura later conveyed to others. Besides what does it have to do whether Sasuke liked Orochimaru or not? He didn't go there to make friends with him but to gain power. He didn't complain when he received the CM from Oro and Oro was preparing Sasuke's body to be his next vessel, so what makes you think he won't experiment on Sasuke's body. Sure Sasuke might have objected to it but he was in no position to make demands. At least not initially.
He went to Orochimaru to train everytime they showed Sasuke in shippuden he's telling Orochimaru it's time to train.

Orochimaru forced the CM onto Sasuke and he never used it willingly it always tried to take over with him suppressing it. Until he met Itachi and found out he was still not at his level then the sound 4 told him if he want to get stronger And control the CM he need to take that pill. If Orochimaru tried to experiment on Sasuke and Sasuke didn't want to Orochimaru would have never done it.

He respected Sasuke or at least wanted him satisfied. If Sasuke let that happen then turn around and say he hated how Orochimaru experimented on people would make him a hypocrite.
 

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@Bold finfic Kakashi said nothing like that because he knows that Sasuke is a fast learner and have a fast growth rate.

He went to Orochimaru to train everytime they showed Sasuke in shippuden he's telling Orochimaru it's time to train.

Orochimaru forced the CM onto Sasuke and he never used it willingly it always tried to take over with him suppressing it. Until he met Itachi and found out he was still not at his level then the sound 4 told him if he want to get stronger And control the CM he need to take that pill. If Orochimaru tried to experiment on Sasuke and Sasuke didn't want to Orochimaru would have never done it.

He respected Sasuke or at least wanted him satisfied. If Sasuke let that happen then turn around and say he hated how Orochimaru experimented on people would make him a hypocrite.

In addition, Orochimaru was stunned by Sasuke's progression and even acknowledged that Sasuke was a greater genius than himself, talent that even amazed Sandaime Hokage. There's nothing suggesting that Sasuke's growth was affiliated with drug usage and the ones who argue such have insubstantial evidence or deliberately push their agenda to denigrate Sasuke. When we analyze the manga holistically, Sakura, Tsunade, and Kakashi highlights the staggering natural aptitude of Sasuke which Orochimaru finally accentuates this when he was stunned by Sasuke's ingenuity.

Now lets watch as the fappers try to feign excuses to better their fave. :bdpf:
 

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I meant that Sasuke can no longer retain his edge over Naruto when he's deprived of the very thing that gave him the decisive advantage over Base Naruto in the first place. Distorting my words with the pretense of trying to depict me as a fool is purely dishonest and simply shows that you cannot handle a debate appropriately.

in ways did sasuke's chakra give him the edge over base naruto in strength?...I'd love to read this
 

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In addition, Orochimaru was stunned by Sasuke's progression and even acknowledged that Sasuke was a greater genius than himself, talent that even amazed Sandaime Hokage. There's nothing suggesting that Sasuke's growth was affiliated with drug usage and the ones who argue such have insubstantial evidence or deliberately push their agenda to denigrate Sasuke. When we analyze the manga holistically, Sakura, Tsunade, and Kakashi highlights the staggering natural aptitude of Sasuke which Orochimaru finally accentuates this when he was stunned by Sasuke's ingenuity.

Now lets watch as the fappers try to feign excuses to better their fave. :bdpf:
I know right someone who had more potential than Itachi and Madara somehow took drugs because he was getting too strong to fast when it's been 3 freaking years. Sasuke did the same ish in 1 month and no one said he took drugs then. But since it's Orochimaru all a sudden he took drugs. :lol i can't with people sometimes.
 

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I know right someone who had more potential than Itachi and Madara somehow took drugs because he was getting too strong to fast when it's been 3 freaking years. Sasuke did the same ish in 1 month and no one said he took drugs then. But since it's Orochimaru all a sudden he took drugs. :lol i can't with people sometimes.

Sasuke actually did that in 15 days, but who's counting right? :bdpf:

But seriously, when we analyze context, it was meant to emphasize Sasuke's ingenuity and strength that seemed insurmountable and it was Naruto's sentiment of Team Kakashi being overwhelmed by Sasuke that reinforces that idea.
 

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You're giving Kishi too much credit.
 
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