Sasuke doesn't have Tsukuyomi

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He does according to the DB but it is just weak compared to Itachi's. The reason why Tobi said it was rare for a MS to unlock Susanoo because you need specifically Ama and Tsuku to use it.

The page where Itachi and Sasuke use their genjutsus to get out of Tayuya's could have been meant to be read all together as Sharingan Genjutsu: Tsukuyomi.

Yep, alot of people don't consider that.
 

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Yea but where has he used it, or where has it said he has it in the manga? Thats why i provided proof..

Because someone has not used a technique in the manga doesn't mean that they don't have it. He just hasn't used it yet. If it is a requirement for susano, then he must have it.
 

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he has it alright, its just that he hasnt got the chance to use it yet..like you've shown thread maker the scene where sasuke tries to use illusion to get danzo..that could've been sasuke just practising n just becasue he hasnt use it much since then doesnt mean he doesnt have it!!

his maybe saving it for naruto n hopefully madara.. *fingers crossed madara v sasukes happens*

n like someone said above it says so in naruto wiki :p
 
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Yea but where has he used it, or where has it said he has it in the manga? Thats why i provided proof..

Sasuke does have Tsukuyomi but his Tsukuyomi is weaker than Itachi.

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Let's see ur proof beacuse sasuke didn't kill itachi the only thing that killed itachi was his disease.... Sasuke got it through blood transfer it's shows it In the manga...

Sasuke got MS from the feeling of the loss of Itachi

Maybe Kish pulled a fast one maybe if you have EMS you wont need Tsukyiomi to get Susanoo or something across those lines.

but he had Susano'o before EMS, so this is wrong
 

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Tsukuyomi always creates an inverted gray-scale in the manga.

Sasuke using Tsukuyomi. Top left panel:

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Itachi using Tsukuyomi:

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The databook proves that you need Tsukuyomi and Amaterasu to be able to use Susano'o. And the manga page that I showed you could be the proof you were looking for. ;)

does it says in the manga that when you use tsukuyomi
it creates an inverted gray scale otherwise? fail
your attempt is futile i must say
 

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does it says in the manga that when you use tsukuyomi
it creates an inverted gray scale otherwise? fail
your attempt is futile i must say

Are you outrightly disregarding what has been said in the Databook?
 

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Sasuke got MS from the feeling of the loss of Itachi



but he had Susano'o before EMS, so this is wrong

Dude look at the manga... It shows itachi cough up blood in his hands. When itachi poked sasukes forhead there was a blood streak. The streak then went into his eye. After that happened his eyes started bleeding ..... So what you say is clearly invalid there are two ways of obtaining ms
 

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He has it, but he isn't as good as itachi with it.
 

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Your first point is wrong so i stopped reading. He gained MS through the loss of itachi, itachi only implanted amaterasu as a one time trap against tobi.
 

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does it says in the manga that when you use tsukuyomi
it creates an inverted gray scale otherwise? fail
your attempt is futile i must say

:sy: All you have to do is look at the manga pages. What you see is an inverted gray-scale. And Tsukuyomi is always shown like that when used in the manga. Also, the databook proves that you need Tsukuyomi and Amaterasu to be able to use Susano'o. People like you are just Sasuke haters.

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Dude look at the manga... It shows itachi cough up blood in his hands. When itachi poked sasukes forhead there was a blood streak. The streak then went into his eye. After that happened his eyes started bleeding ..... So what you say is clearly invalid there are two ways of obtaining ms

that wasnt MS-transplant, it was a one-shot trap Itachi set for Tobi.
 

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Can people explain to me what's the deal with Kakashi's MS then? Because supposedly, if we go by the databooks, he should have either Amaterasu or Tsukiyomi. The fact that he doesn't leads me to believe that you just need to have 2 MS techniques, 1 in each eye, to gain Susanoo, and they don't necessarily have to be Amaterasu or Tsukiyomi. This means that Sasuke may very well not have Tsukiyomi. I know what he did against Bee, but he didn't alter the time, nor did Bee emerge spiritually broken like Tsukiyomi does to someone. So the inverted colors may have just been the way Kishi decided to draw that genjutsu.

I know what the databooks say, but they don't account for Kamui, and I don't know how to either.

Someone willing to give a reasonable explanation here?
 

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Tsukuyomi always creates an inverted gray-scale in the manga.

Sasuke using Tsukuyomi. Top left panel:

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Itachi using Tsukuyomi:

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The databook proves that you need Tsukuyomi and Amaterasu to be able to use Susano'o. And the manga page that I showed you could be the proof you were looking for. ;)

See..? At least you can back yourself up.. But that still doesn't explain why he doesn't use it... I'm certain that even his Tsukuyomi is stronger than regular sharingan genjutsu..
 
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