Sasuke doesn't have Tsukuyomi

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Sasuke has Tsukuyomi.

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All the databook is a collection of facts and feats, that are presented in the manga. The way you read the manga should be how you interpreted the databook, and not the other way around. Tsukuyomi is not needed for the awakening of Susano'o, as Tsukuyomi was only awaken in Itachi's eyes not Sasuke.

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[Οdin]

Why has no one ever posted this as proof...?!?!?

I've seen it in the Base before.

 

[xjimbox]

that wasnt MS-transplant, it was a one-shot trap Itachi set for Tobi.

Tell me where u got that please.... I know that didn't happen..

 

[Prince of Persia TTT]

:sy: All you have to do is look at the manga pages. What you see is an inverted gray-scale. And Tsukuyomi is always show like that when used in the manga. Also, the databook proves that you need Tsukuyomi and Amaterasu to be able to use Susano'o. People like you are just Sasuke haters.

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by providing me databook pages you are saying that manga is not cannon
bcoz nowhere in the manga it clearly states that sasuke has tsukuyomi
or prove me wrong by giving me a link

 

[Punk Hazard]

Can people explain to me what's the deal with Kakashi's MS then? Because supposedly, if we go by the databooks, he should have either Amaterasu or Tsukiyomi. The fact that he doesn't leads me to believe that you just need to have 2 MS techniques, 1 in each eye, to gain Susanoo, which means that Sasuke may very well not have Tsukiyomi. I know what he did against Bee, but he didn't alter the time, nor did Bee emerge spiritually broken like Tsukiyomi does to someone. So the inverted colors may have just been the way Kishi decided to draw that genjutsu.

I know what the databooks say, but they don't account for Kamui, and I don't know how to either.

Someone willing to give a reasonable explanation here?

its simple: MS has more than those two base powers. Kakashi just didnt get the ones needed for Susano'o.

 

[OnPoint]

Can people explain to me what's the deal with Kakashi's MS then? Because supposedly, if we go by the databooks, he should have either Amaterasu or Tsukiyomi. The fact that he doesn't leads me to believe that you just need to have 2 MS techniques, 1 in each eye, to gain Susanoo, and they don't necessarily have to be Amaterasu or Tsukiyomi. This means that Sasuke may very well not have Tsukiyomi. I know what he did against Bee, but he didn't alter the time, nor did Bee emerge spiritually broken like Tsukiyomi does to someone. So the inverted colors may have just been the way Kishi decided to draw that genjutsu.

I know what the databooks say, but they don't account for Kamui, and I don't know how to either.

Someone willing to give a reasonable explanation here?

Eh? Why is that?

 

[Snake5177]

All the databook is a collection of facts and feats, that are presented in the manga. The way you read the manga should be how you interpreted the databook, and not the other way around. Tsukuyomi is not needed for the awakening of Susano'o. Tsukuyomi was only awaken in Itachi's eyes not Sasuke.

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[Οdin]

by providing me databook pages you are saying that manga is not cannon
bcoz nowhere in the manga it clearly states that sasuke has tsukuyomi
or prove me wrong by giving me a link

This is why I don't even debate anymore. I never said that Manga is not canon. Both Manga and Databooks are used as reliable sources. I'm out. U_U

 

[FizzyDrink]

its simple: MS has more than those two base powers. Kakashi just didnt get the ones needed for Susano'o.

That is possible, but I don't like it. So your saying whether or not you get the requirements for Susanoo is dumb luck? I don't like it.

The databooks also do not account for Shisui's MS. Also there's the fact that Madara has shown neither Amaterasu nor Tsukiyomi, yet has shown Susanoo (now, he may later, but he hasn't yet). And I'm not convinced that the chances of getting the right powers for Susanoo is just random. You would think that it is a constant, or at least that Shisui would have another famous MS technique alongside his KA. Why doesn't he after all?

 

[OnPoint]

That is possible, but I don't like it. So your saying whether or not you get the requirements for Susanoo is dumb luck? I don't like it.

The databooks also do not account for Shisui's MS. Also there's the fact that Madara has shown neither Amaterasu nor Tsukiyomi, yet has shown Susanoo (now, he may later, but he hasn't yet). And I'm not convinced that the chances of getting the right powers for Susanoo is just random. You would think that it is a constant, or at least that Shisui would have another famous MS technique alongside his KA. Why doesn't he after all?

Actually, I would say it is very much down to the random allocation of Mangekyou Sharingan jutsus in this manga.

 

[Snake5177]

That is possible, but I don't like it. So your saying whether or not you get the requirements for Susanoo is dumb luck? I don't like it.

The databooks also do not account for Shisui's MS. Also there's the fact that Madara has shown neither Amaterasu nor Tsukiyomi, yet has shown Susanoo (now, he may later, but he hasn't yet). And I'm not convinced that the chances of getting the right powers for Susanoo is just random. You would think that it is a constant, or at least that Shisui would have another famous MS technique alongside his KA. Why doesn't he after all?

Exactly, if Madara wanted to kill the 5 kages, he would have already used Amaterasu or Tsukuyomi. I honestly don't think it takes Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi for susanoo. I think you might need 2 Mangekyou sharingan. +rep

 

[Punk Hazard]

That is possible, but I don't like it. So your saying whether or not you get the requirements for Susanoo is dumb luck? I don't like it.

The databooks also do not account for Shisui's MS. Also there's the fact that Madara has shown neither Amaterasu nor Tsukiyomi, yet has shown Susanoo (now, he may later, but he hasn't yet). And I'm not convinced that the chances of getting the right powers for Susanoo is just random. You would think that it is a constant, or at least that Shisui would have another famous MS technique alongside his KA. Why doesn't he after all?

it is random. quite frankly, it doesnt matter if you like it or not, fact is fact

to the shisui thing, we havent seen enough of him to judge him

 

[SasoriOfTheRedSaand]

We've never seen him use it but he has to have it.

 

[xjimbox]

We've never seen him use it but he has to have it.

That's necessarily true...

 

[FizzyDrink]

it is random. quite frankly, it doesnt matter if you like it or not, fact is fact

to the shisui thing, we havent seen enough of him to judge him

Blegh. There's still more to be seen...

And about the Shisui thing, you would think that since he was famous for one of his MS techniques, if he had another it would be famous too. However, we also know that he could use KA with both eyes. So why would he get 1 MS technique, while Itachi, Sasuke, and (supposedly) Madara each get three? I guess you'll probably chalk it up to plot no jutsu...

Actually, I would say it is very much down to the random allocation of Mangekyou Sharingan jutsus in this manga.

And of course the main characters are the one's who get it :/

 

[Maunten]

Basically both Sasuke and Itachi can use an advanced form of Sharingan Genjutsu granted by MS Sharingan.

When one of them masters an MS tech further, they give it a name.

Sasuke's advanced manipulation of Amaterasu flames is dubbed Blaze release.

Itachi's prowess with Sharingan Genjutsu is dubbed Tsukuyomi.

 

[Snake5177]

Blegh. There's still more to be seen...

And about the Shisui thing, you would think that since he was famous for one of his MS techniques, if he had another it would be famous too. However, we also know that he could use KA with both eyes. So why would he get 1 MS technique, while Itachi, Sasuke, and (supposedly) Madara each get three? I guess you'll probably chalk it up to plot no jutsu...



And of course the main characters are the one's who get it :/

If Sasuke really has Tsukuyomi, then that would give him 4 techniques... Which is bs

 

[Punk Hazard]

Blegh. There's still more to be seen...

And about the Shisui thing, you would think that since he was famous for one of his MS techniques, if he had another it would be famous too. However, we also know that he could use KA with both eyes. So why would he get 1 MS technique, while Itachi, Sasuke, and (supposedly) Madara each get three? I guess you'll probably chalk it up to plot no jutsu...

no, i wont, ever.

its possible his other tech was too weak with him, like Sasuke and Tsukiyomi, to be used much or he didnt develop his MS enough to use the second tech. these two things plus the incredible ability of KA could have caused people to not care for his second tech

If Sasuke really has Tsukuyomi, then that would give him 4 techniques... Which is bs

no, itd be three

 

[Snake5177]

No, cause if you look at my first post, in his right eye he has blaze release..

 

[Punk Hazard]

No, cause if you look at my first post, in his right eye he has blaze release..

thats just Ama with some extra control