Sasuke does not have Tsukuyomi

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Can you name anyone other that Itachi or Sasuke that had used Amaterasu?Since they're brothers it only makes sense they would share Amaterasu.

madara has been state to have amaterasu and tsukuyomi as well. and using the brother argument is weak dude that doesnt prove anything and further debunk the unique thing

 

[Draphsin]

In that logic, itachi has the Sages susano'o becaause it "came" with the weapons. That is the most twisted logic ive heard all week

When did I say that it came with those weapons?

At the time of the DB's publishing date, Itachi had already obtained these weapons.

Itachi may have obtained them through some other means beforehand but it didnt list totsuka/yata's requirements but merely said that susanoo possesses them.

Nowhere in that Db does it say that totsuka/yata "came" with susanoo, stop turning my logic against me.

 

[TheTailedSage]

Funny how you can't even counter my facts. All you have is pure speculation.

NB members that think they know what they're talking about...adorable. Lol

If anyones speculating its you guys. You have yet to counter my statement and we have already proved to you that sasuke has got it. If you care to look up you would have seen it. Your digging for something that's quite frankly not there. Its like saying sasukes chidori and kakashis chidori are different because they got it in different time periods.

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

In a continuous effect? have a look at what tsukyomi looks like inside

Kaze said there was no genjutsu other than Tsukiyomi that uses a black and white effect,by his logic Orochimaru must have used Tsukiyomi on Sasuke and Sakura because of that.Hell,it even paralyzed them both so I don't see why Orochimaru needs the Sharingan at all.

 

[-ahhimane-]

To all those who denied my post take a look again and have a facepalm

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If you read until this point you'll think that Sasuke used Tsukuyomi. But that was a normal Genjutsu. Because the moment he hold his right eye, he noticed that Killer Bee already broke free out of that Genjutsu.
For dummies, Genjutsu is the jutsu which is controlled by the user.
So it's not like Sasuke applied Tsukuyomi and went in the park.
He noticed that the Genjutsu has been released by Killer bee. His face is not showing any strain or fatigue from the Breaking of Tsukuyomi (which you all are saying)
But the moment the Genjutsu broke, he turned to look at Killer Bee and got a Lariat. We all know that even when Sasuke break free through Itachi's Tsukuyomi, he himself fall down and then Itachi fall down. But Killer Bee attacked head-on. Now don't compare with the chakra levels here Ok.

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[Shadow Phantasm]

madara has been state to have amaterasu and tsukuyomi as well. and using the brother argument is weak dude that doesnt prove anything and further debunk the unique thing

Post proof that Madara has Amaterasu and Tsukiyomi that does'nt come from NarutoWiki.

 

[TheTailedSage]

When did I say that it came with those weapons?

At the time of the DB's publishing date, Itachi had already obtained these weapons.

Itachi may have obtained them through some other means beforehand but it didnt list totsuka/yata's requirements but merely said that susanoo possesses them.

Nowhere in that Db does it say that totsuka/yata "came" with susanoo, stop turning my logic against me.

*sigh*

These are Itachi's requirements, the requirements differ between users. Itachi may need these to unlock it but sasuke doesnt, he already stated that his requirements were simply the ability to awaken the double mangekyou.

You are now changing your statement. First you said its a requirement, then you said he obtained them through some other way. Your talking about ammy and Tsu, from that post onwards you were suggesting it came with his suanoo

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

If anyones speculating its you guys. You have yet to counter my statement and we have already proved to you that sasuke has got it. If you care to look up you would have seen it. Your digging for something that's quite frankly not there. Its like saying sasukes chidori and kakashis chidori are different because they got it in different time periods.

You guys have nothing but speculation that Sasuke has Tsukiyomi,while me and several others have posted scans that show him using Enton and Amaterasu.

 

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To all those who denied my post take a look again and have a facepalm

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If you read until this point you'll think that Sasuke used Tsukuyomi. But that was a normal Genjutsu. Because the moment he hold his right eye, he noticed that Killer Bee already broke free out of that Genjutsu.
For dummies, Genjutsu is the jutsu which is controlled by the user.
So it's not like Sasuke applied Tsukuyomi and went in the park.
He noticed that the Genjutsu has been released by Killer bee. His face is not showing any strain or fatigue from the Breaking of Tsukuyomi (which you all are saying)
But the moment the Genjutsu broke, he turned to look at Killer Bee and got a Lariat. We all know that even when Sasuke break free through Itachi's Tsukuyomi, he himself fall down and then Itachi fall down. But Killer Bee attacked head-on. Now don't compare with the chakra levels here Ok.

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umm jins have been shown to break free from any genjutsu with ease because the bijuus help free them and danzo said it him self that sasuke's was nothing compare to the mastery itachi had over tsukuyomi because itachi controled the flow of time while sasuke couldnt

 

[TheTailedSage]

To all those who denied my post take a look again and have a facepalm

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If you read until this point you'll think that Sasuke used Tsukuyomi. But that was a normal Genjutsu. Because the moment he hold his right eye, he noticed that Killer Bee already broke free out of that Genjutsu.
For dummies, Genjutsu is the jutsu which is controlled by the user.
So it's not like Sasuke applied Tsukuyomi and went in the park.
He noticed that the Genjutsu has been released by Killer bee. His face is not showing any strain or fatigue from the Breaking of Tsukuyomi (which you all are saying)
But the moment the Genjutsu broke, he turned to look at Killer Bee and got a Lariat. We all know that even when Sasuke break free through Itachi's Tsukuyomi, he himself fall down and then Itachi fall down. But Killer Bee attacked head-on. Now don't compare with the chakra levels here Ok.

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Are you buzzing or are you purposely skipping the panel of sasuke holding his eye?

 

[Strict]

Indeed Sasuke doesn't. While the databook supports Itachi's statement that only those who have awakened Tsukuyomi and Amaterasu in their eyes can awake Susanoo, this statement is outdated and was corrected by Sasuke, who said that you merely need to master the power of the Mangekyo Sharingan in both eyes to awake Susanoo instead of speaking precisely about Tsukuyomi and Amaterasu.

While the outdated databook agrees with Itachi's statement, it also says that Susanoo holds the Totsuka sword and Yata mirror in its hands, what however only applies to Itachi's Susanoo.

In fact, Sasuke never used Tsukuyomi but another powerful Genjutsu which has no specific name. When freeing each other from Kabuto's Genjutsu, Itachi used concretely Tsukuyomi, while Sasuke merely called it Sharingan: Genjutsu. Even if Sasuke would have a weaker version of Tsukuyomi, it would still be Tsukuyomi, hence Sasuke would call it by its name. That isn't the case however.

 

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You guys have nothing but speculation that Sasuke has Tsukiyomi,while me and several others have posted scans that show him using Enton and Amaterasu.

yes he used enton but enton is still amaterasu but powers go hand in hand without amaterasu there is no enton. enton is not the second power its just a ability to manipulate amaterasu.

 

[TheTailedSage]

You guys have nothing but speculation that Sasuke has Tsukiyomi,while me and several others have posted scans that show him using Enton and Amaterasu.

Which isnt helping you in any way shape or form. Itacchi is called the genjutsu master for a reason. He specializes in it where as sasuke doesnt which is why he rarely uses it. We acknowledged his gen isnt as good as itachis which is why he doesn't use genjutsu. Your doing most of the speculating because it doesnt say anywhere in the manga that different uchiha need different requirments to get susano'o

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[Strict]

yes he used enton but enton is still amaterasu but powers go hand in hand without amaterasu there is no enton. enton is not the second power its just a ability to manipulate amaterasu.

Incorrect. He created Amaterasu flames with Enton several times. Enton also creates Amaterasu but in close range.

 

[Draphsin]

stop trying to use totsuka and yata mirror to support you argument because its state that itachi found those not unlocked with susanoo orochimaru doesnt have susanoo yet he was search for the blade and have its counterpart already which means its not only susanoo users can wield it.

This means nothing

DB says that Itachi's susanoo possesses these weapons. It doesnt say that susanoo grants the user these weapons, or that the user obtains these weapons.

Your counter is the fact that I think susanoo comes with totsuka & yata, where is that stated? Nowhere. Im just telling you you're wrong because this DB shows us that the susanoo in which thay're referring to already has these weapons.

If anyones speculating its you guys. You have yet to counter my statement and we have already proved to you that sasuke has got it. If you care to look up you would have seen it. Your digging for something that's quite frankly not there. Its like saying sasukes chidori and kakashis chidori are different because they got it in different time periods.

What the hell?

Its like talking to a brick wall, seriously...

Where is the proof stating that sasuke has it???? Show me & ill rebut it right now.

You have yet to counter my argument regarding totsuka & yata. The Db says that the susanoo in the entry has them, does this mean that all susanoos obtained them somehow? No, This is strictly speaking to Itachi's susanoo who currently has those weapons.

& wtf............? How can you misinterpret my words that much? Time periods have nothing to do with this.

However as an example lets say that kakashi's chidori allows him to make bombs out of raiton. Lets say that he learned this ability, so if the DB entry for chidori says that chidori allows the user the ability to create bombs via raiton does that mean that sasuke now has the ability to make bombs too?? NO, it is kakashi's chidori ability, not sasuke's

Same for susanoo, they are Itachi's weapons, not sasuke's/madara's, they are his, the DB is referring to his susanoo, not anyone elses because his susanoo has these weapons, no one else's does.

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

yes he used enton but enton is still amaterasu but powers go hand in hand without amaterasu there is no enton. enton is not the second power its just a ability to manipulate amaterasu.

Enton is the second power!Jesus,Sasuke has been shown using it without the signature eye bleeding that Amaterasu causes.

 

[-ahhimane-]

umm jins have been shown to break free from any genjutsu with ease because the bijuus help free them and danzo said it him self that sasuke's was nothing compare to the mastery itachi had over tsukuyomi because itachi controled the flow of time while sasuke couldnt

For GOD'S SAKE, Tsukyomi and Genjutsu are two different things. Tsukuyomi is a special Genjutsu.
Genjutsu doesn't manipulates time
Tsukuyomi does.
Itachi manipulates the time within one second.
Sasuke casted Genjutsu on Killer Bee which was moving with the time.
Sasuke used Genjutsu on Danzo which moved with time.
In other words that wasn't even Tsukuyomi.

 

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Incorrect. He created Amaterasu flames with Enton several times. Enton also creates Amaterasu but in close range.

ummm no.....its just manipulating the black flames

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

ummm no.....its just manipulating the black flames

Then why are there seperate names for Enton if they are the same?Enton:Kagutsuchi would be Amaterasu:Kagutsuchi going by your logic.

 

[-ahhimane-]

Are you buzzing or are you purposely skipping the panel of sasuke holding his eye?

I'm not skipping the panel dumbo. Sasuke turned back holding his eye with ease. Means breaking of a normal Genjutsu which shocked him a little.
On the other hand, the Great Itachi's Tsukuyomi, which you all mentioned to be stronger than Sasuke, (according to you) made Itachi fall on his knees after it was broken.
In case Sasuke, he would be screaming in pain holding his eye.