Sasuke does not have Tsukuyomi

[Shadow Phantasm]

so because the book is old does it make the infomation false? no.

It makes it outdated.Which means the info is old and the current info is that you need to master the ocular powers in both MS eyes.Like I said before if Kishi himself said Amaterasu and Tsukiyomi aren't need for Susanoo you would deny it while clinging to old info.

 

[Draphsin]

*facepalm* when did i say sasuke doesnt have enton? i said its not the second power for susanoo

Yes it is

Keep denying

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

thats what i was talking about, read previous post before you hop on to things without amaterasu there is no enton gosh.

*facepalm* when did i say sasuke doesnt have enton? i said its not the second power for susanoo

You said it right there that there was no Enton.

 

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Any doubts? Enton is Sasuke's second power along with Amaterasu and possesses several useful abilities.
It would be too inconvenient. Otherwise he would have first to create the orb of black flames in Susanoo's third hand by casting a flame at its hand, etc. Instead, the orb is already present when Susanoo is activated.

i think you fail to realise how manipulating jutsu work in NV take chidori for explain for look no sasuke use to do it , then in shippuden he's able to use it on his sword with making a single hand sign.

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

Yes it is

Keep denying

It's like trying to argue with a steel wall.Some people in this thread make my head hurt.U_U

 

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You said it right there that there was no Enton.

learn to read dude seriously and dont just pick out what you want to see "Without amaterasu there is no enton"

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

i think you fail to realise how manipulating jutsu work in NV take chidori for explain for look no sasuke use to do it , then in shippuden he's able to use it on his sword with making a single hand sign.

It still counts as unique power since nobody but Sasuke can control the flames.

 

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please note the strain at the end.

Lol, incomplete information. Also the title of the video doesn't really matters here. The user of the video must be also a dumb kid which believes the same as you.
[video=youtube;OPn6tiwGrQ8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPn6tiwGrQ8[/video]

skip to 16:25, there's continuation. That also says that Sasuke made a sound because Killer Bee broke through Genjutsu and pulled a Lariat.

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

learn to read dude seriously and dont just pick out what you want to see "Without amaterasu there is no enton"

I did read it.So answer my question,does Sasuke have Enton or not?If you answer yes then that makes it his second power.

 

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Lol, incomplete information. Also the title of the video doesn't really matters here. The user of the video must be also a dumb kid which believes the same as you.
[video=youtube;OPn6tiwGrQ8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPn6tiwGrQ8[/video]

skip to 16:25, there's continuation. That also says that Sasuke made a sound because Killer Bee broke through Genjutsu and pulled a Lariat.

lol did you even watch the video or you just read the title ? no seriously dude.

 

[-ahhimane-]

It's like trying to argue with a steel wall.Some people in this thread make my head hurt.U_U

No bro, it's more like a butthurt kid whose lollipop has been taken away. XD

 

[Draphsin]

It's like trying to argue with a steel wall.Some people in this thread make my head hurt.U_U

Indeed, oh well nothing to do now except laugh at all the denial. :bouncy: :vision:

 

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lol did you even watch the video or you just read the title ? no seriously dude.

So I am a genius to put a video time of a 25:42 minutes video which exactly matches the continuation of your submitted video?

 

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Even if Sasuke didn't have tsukuyomi with normal MS, he most definitely has it now since he has Itachi's eyes. He just doesn't use it. Never the less, I agree that the databook entry is outdated. That databook also said that Kamui was unique to Kakashi, but we now know that to be false. It's obvious that Kishi is just sticking with the current time when he writes the data books. His data is constantly changing as the series progresses.

This post ftw! I have read this whole thread thus far and I have seen no one try to oppose these facts.

 

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I did read it.So answer my question,does Sasuke have Enton or not?If you answer yes then that makes it his second power.

yes sasuke has enton(blaze release) but enton is amaterasu but there is not information that said any two ms powers can activate susanoo and dont post that sasuke scan because thats doesnt elaborate on anything its just say double mangyeko which is going to lead to speculation which you're doing by saying enton is the second power to activate susanoo.

 

[Draphsin]

This post ftw! I have read this whole thread thus far and I have seen no one try to oppose these facts.

You say he has it because he has Itachi's eyes. Sasuke has enton/amaterasu, he can't have a third mangekyou ability (other than susanoo, obviously).

 

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So I am a genius to put a video time of a 25:42 minutes video which exactly matches the continuation of your submitted video?

watch the video guy sasuke strained and had his hand over the eye he used.

 

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Sigh,

Until this is clarified by the Manga.. Susano'o requires the double Mangekyo which contain two different powers in each eye. Sasuke's left eye if I'm not mistaken is used for Amaterasu's use, while the right eye is used for manipulating Amaterasu into a more versatile form known as Blaze Release, or Enton. These are Sasuke's two powers, which enables him the use of Susano'o. Itachi had only seen his own Susano'o during his lifetime, what does he have to back up his claim..? It was a safe assumption on his part.. considering he had Tsukuyomi and Amaterasu.

Believing that Tsukuyomi is necessary and absolutely essential for Susano'o is usually based off of pure assumption and Itachi's statement (which gets contradicted by Sasuke later on), and there are a few questions that could be posed for this statement.. such as:

- Why wasn't Amaterasu used against the Gokage by Madara..?
- Why wasn't Sasuke's Genjutsu labeled as Tsukuyomi? [

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- Why didn't Sasuke repeat Itachi's statement about Tsukuyomi at Kage Summit..?

Conclusion: MS Sasuke did not have Tsukuyomi, and I doubt Madara has Tsukuyomi or Amaterasu. Although, it's not absurd to believe that EMS Sasuke could unlock Tsukuyomi after a certain amount of time due to him having Itachi's eyes.

 

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This post ftw! I have read this whole thread thus far and I have seen no one try to oppose these facts.

He still doesn't have and you can't argue with this.

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If he got Itachi's eyes now then his Tsukuyomi must be powerful as Itachi's. Then why is he sticking to normal Genjutsu?
This means that he doesn't have. Itachi's eyes are only supporting Sasuke's MS powers and not providing him anything new.

 

[chaos control]

You say he has it because he has Itachi's eyes. Sasuke has enton/amaterasu, he can't have a third mangekyou ability (other than susanoo, obviously).

You're right if we are only talking about normal MS, but EMS grants all of the powers of both sets of eyes. This is the case for all transplanted eyes. If it wasn't, then how would Danzo be able to use Kotoamatsukami on Mifune? The answer is simple: If you have an eye transplanted, you get the power.