Sasuke and Itachi vs Leaf Sannin

Uchiha Brothers vs Leaf Sannin


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The Uchiha brothers take this with mid to high difficulty.

Itachi has already wrecked Orochimaru twice with once using only genjutsu. None of the sannin have the necessary speed to dodge amaterasu and it takes Jiraiya time to use SM.

None of the sannin have the necessary destructive power to break through a full susanoo especially Itachi's with the yata mirror. Tsunade only broke the rib cage susanoo, so don't use that as an example. Then there's also Sasuke's enton manipulation he can use with his full susanoo not to mention he can also use it to cover his susanoo as well.

Then there's genjutsu as well, which is a huge weakness for Orochimaru.

The sannin just don't have the fire power to take these two down.
Here's the problem. We haven't seen Tsunade's limit on strength yet so let's not say what her strength can't do.
Secondly, Full Susanoo does not protect from underground and there is an Earth User on this team capable of making a Swamp of the Underworld capable of sinking Manda when his chakra was only at 30 percent. And capable of doing a fire tech that dwarfed Katsuya, Gamabunta, and Manda.
Tsunade and Orochimaru can stall for Jiraiya to prepare Sage Mode. In the meantime he has many other frog summons to fight and help stall while he prepares SM.
Susanoo has 4 weaknesses we know of. The ground, brute strength, extreme heat, and acid. The Sannin have every one of those. The Ground and Heat goes to Jiraiya (Earth release, and he has fire techs such as Toad Oil Flame Bullet and Goemon). Tsunade has the brute strength and the acid via katsuya.
Obviously, the next argument to come up is Genjutsu. But consider this Jiraiya has at least 4 summons he has used in battle and another one he was going to use against kisame, there is katsuyu, Manda, Orochimaru, Jiraiya and Tsunade. That is 10 beings that must be caught in genjutsu at once. If the bros don't watch the sannin they'd break out themselves, but if they keep an eye on the sannin the summons can insert chakra into those affected by genjutsu or physically hurt them to get out of genjutsu. In fact if a mini katsuyu is on everyone's back like a leech she'd only have to insert chakra or do a mini acid. If they go for the controlling the summons then the sannin will just release them from the genjutsu. If everyone on team Sannin, summons included had a Katsuyu on their back while the rest of Katsuyu did battle, if katsuyu got caught anyone can save her and if anyone else got katsuyu could save them.
After genjutsu their is the threat of Amaterasu. That's always the next line of defense. Say they do hit a sannin with it. Orochimaru sheds his skin. Hitting Tsunade with it is a bad idea because the next time she goes to attack them, they'd be screwed trying to put out the black flames she just put on them. If you think well Susanoo will protect them, the flames that were on Sasuke's susanoo were not attacking it but as Mei's lava showed, Susanoo melts and if the black flames are attacking and the flames are hotter than Mei's lava Susanoo will melt and the bros will still be screwed. Amaterasu suppression seems like it takes a lot out of you based on Sasuke's response when he fought Bee. You may argue she'd be in too much Pain to fight back. But I don't think so. She was completely impaled and continued to fight, 3 yasaka magatamas at point blank range didn't stop her, nor did hemophobia in conjunction with the sword of kusanagi's three wounds and Kabuto cutting her abdomen, respiratory, and bicep muscles. Which leaves Jiraiya its a well known fact that Jiraiya has fire seals. We also know that a regular katon can fight Amaterasu because Sasuke did it. This is speculation and isn't really included in my argument but jiraiya took those flames for research he may have found there weakness as Itachi says every jutsu has a weakness and he is amaterasu user. So spamming Amaterasu would be a lost cause here. End of the speculation disclaimer. In addition Sage Mode allows you to sense and Jiraiya would sense speedy attacks and thanks to his reflex boost from SM be able to dodge in all likelihood. Which brings us to Susanoo arrows. Orochimaru has his Rashoumon Gates, Body Shedding, Gathering of Snakes, and Slithering Snake. Jiraiya has his sensing and his reflexes and Tsunade has her Byakougou. Oro has info on Itachi, and sasuke's abilities are really only that of Itachi's sense they are the same eyes.
Let's not forget Jiraiya's unnamed Barrier that IIRC took out the human path. Should someone mistakenly enter it, they die. The bros can't just safely sit in Susanoo and win. If they come to use taijutsu against Jiraiya and don't know about the barrier, one of them dies. 1 vs the 3 will lose.
EDIT: Sasuke really can't have EMS if Itachi has MS and is living...just something I noticed. Not that we've seen much from EMS Sasuke.
 
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Here's the problem. We haven't seen Tsunade's limit on strength yet so let's not say what her strength can't do.
Secondly, Susanoo's rib cage protects from underdeath. Full Susanoo does not and there is an Earth User on this team capable of making a Swamp of the Underworld capable of sinking Manda when his chakra was only at 30 percent. And capable of doing a fire tech that dwarfed Katsuya, Gamabunta, and Manda.
Tsunade and Orochimaru can stall for Jiraiya to prepare Sage Mode. In the meantime he has many other frog summons to fight and help stall while he prepares SM.
Susanoo has 4 weaknesses we know of. The ground, brute strength, extreme heat, and acid. The Sannin have every one of those. The Ground and Heat goes to Jiraiya (Earth release, and he has fire techs such as Toad Oil Flame Bullet and Goemon). Tsunade has the brute strength and the acid via katsuya.
Obviously, the next argument to come up is Genjutsu. But consider this Jiraiya has at least 4 summons he has used in battle and another one he was going to use against kisame, there is katsuyu, Manda, Orochimaru, Jiraiya and Tsunade. That is 10 beings that must be caught in genjutsu at once. If the bros don't watch the sannin they'd break out themselves, but if they keep an eye on the sannin the summons can insert chakra into those affected by genjutsu or physically hurt them to get out of genjutsu. In fact if a mini katsuyu is on everyone's back like a leech she'd only have to insert chakra or do a mini acid. If they go for the controlling the summons then the sannin will just release them from the genjutsu. If everyone on team Sannin, summons included had a Katsuyu on their back while the rest of Katsuyu did battle, if katsuyu got caught anyone can save her and if anyone else got katsuyu could save them.
After genjutsu their is the threat of Amaterasu. That's always the next line of defense. Say they do hit a sannin with it. Orochimaru sheds his skin. Hitting Tsunade with it is a bad idea because the next time she goes to attack them, they'd be screwed trying to put out the black flames she just put on them. If you think well Susanoo will protect them, the flames that were on Sasuke's susanoo were not attacking it but as Mei's lava showed, Susanoo melts and if the black flames are attacking and the flames are hotter than Mei's lava Susanoo will melt and the bros will still be screwed. Amaterasu suppression seems like it takes a lot out of you based on Sasuke's response when he fought Bee. You may argue she'd be in too much Pain to fight back. But I don't think so. She was completely impaled and continued to fight, 3 yasaka magatamas at point blank range didn't stop her, nor did hemophobia in conjunction with the sword of kusanagi's three wounds and Kabuto cutting her abdomen, respiratory, and bicep muscles. Which leaves Jiraiya its a well known fact that Jiraiya has fire seals. We also know that a regular katon can fight Amaterasu because Sasuke did it. This is speculation and isn't really included in my argument but jiraiya took those flames for research he may have found there weakness as Itachi says every jutsu has a weakness and he is amaterasu user. So spamming Amaterasu would be a lost cause here. End of the speculation disclaimer. In addition Sage Mode allows you to sense and Jiraiya would sense speedy attacks and thanks to his reflex boost from SM be able to dodge in all likelihood. Which brings us to Susanoo arrows. Orochimaru has his Rashoumon Gates, Body Shedding, Gathering of Snakes, and Slithering Snake. Jiraiya has his sensing and his reflexes and Tsunade has her Byakougou. Oro has info on Itachi, and sasuke's abilities are really only that of Itachi's sense they are the same eyes.
Let's not forget Jiraiya's unnamed Barrier that IIRC took out the human path. Should someone mistakenly enter it, they die. The bros can't just safely sit in Susanoo and win. If they come to use taijutsu against Jiraiya and don't know about the barrier, one of them dies. 1 vs the 3 will lose.
EDIT: Sasuke really can't have EMS if Itachi has MS and is living...just something I noticed. Not that we've seen much from EMS Sasuke.
I was too lazy too say all of this +rep

BTW I only gave Sasuke EMS so I didn't hear "that's not fair." It doesn't really effect the battle though.
 
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Sannin mid diff. Jiraiya uses a great Swamp of the Underworld, Orochimaru and Jiraiya combine their fire and wind techniques to blow back any attack the bros try while they're sinking and Tsunade stands there and watch them sink.
 

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Itachi solo :drive:
Orochimaru K.O. Tsukoyomi one look
Tsunade is not fast so K.O. Amaterasu
Jiraya a little bit hard...but here comes Susano'o


!!!GET TROLLED!!!
Orochimaru has edo tensei
remember oro got beat because he doesn't want to kill itachi
he want his body clean 100% no wounds

ur an idiot with all due respect
 

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Naw don't kid urself sasuke is past him ems sharingan is to much 4 him susanoo is gone be to much...Wat makes u think he can beat j-man
Here's how it goes:

Jiraiya>Itachi>Orochimaru>Jiraiya.

So if Itachi goes against Jiraiya, than Jiraiya beats him with High diff.

Now that leaves Orochimaru and Tsunade vs Sasuke. Sasuke has a stronger susanoo and amaterasu than Itachi, but would lose to both sanin.

So if three vs two plus summons.

Itachi+Sasuke+Hawks+Crows vs Tsunade+Jiraiya+Orochimaru+Manda+Katsuyu+Gamabunta+Toads+Snakes+Slugs?

We pretty much know the winners of this.

Sanin mid to easy diff.
 

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The Uchiha brothers take this with mid to high difficulty.

Itachi has already wrecked Orochimaru twice with once using only genjutsu. None of the sannin have the necessary speed to dodge amaterasu and it takes Jiraiya time to use SM.

None of the sannin have the necessary destructive power to break through a full susanoo especially Itachi's with the yata mirror. Tsunade only broke the rib cage susanoo, so don't use that as an example. Then there's also Sasuke's enton manipulation he can use with his full susanoo not to mention he can also use it to cover his susanoo as well.

Then there's genjutsu as well, which is a huge weakness for Orochimaru.

The sannin just don't have the fire power to take these two down.
^This
 

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Here's how it goes:

Jiraiya>Itachi>Orochimaru>Jiraiya.

So if Itachi goes against Jiraiya, than Jiraiya beats him with High diff.

Now that leaves Orochimaru and Tsunade vs Sasuke. Sasuke has a stronger susanoo and amaterasu than Itachi, but would lose to both sanin.

So if three vs two plus summons.

Itachi+Sasuke+Hawks+Crows vs Tsunade+Jiraiya+Orochimaru+Manda+Katsuyu+Gamabunta+Toads+Snakes+Slugs?

We pretty much know the winners of this.

Sanin mid to easy diff.
J-man beat itachi ur funny...sasuke rapes oro an tsunade if tsunade take 1 hit of amateratsu it's over 4 her. If the summon anything the. Sharingan will take control of it..sasuke an his arrows will be to much an we don't even kno how strong his genjutsu has gotten
 

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Here's the problem. We haven't seen Tsunade's limit on strength yet so let's not say what her strength can't do.
Secondly, Full Susanoo does not protect from underground and there is an Earth User on this team capable of making a Swamp of the Underworld capable of sinking Manda when his chakra was only at 30 percent. And capable of doing a fire tech that dwarfed Katsuya, Gamabunta, and Manda.
Tsunade and Orochimaru can stall for Jiraiya to prepare Sage Mode. In the meantime he has many other frog summons to fight and help stall while he prepares SM.
Susanoo has 4 weaknesses we know of. The ground, brute strength, extreme heat, and acid. The Sannin have every one of those. The Ground and Heat goes to Jiraiya (Earth release, and he has fire techs such as Toad Oil Flame Bullet and Goemon). Tsunade has the brute strength and the acid via katsuya.
Obviously, the next argument to come up is Genjutsu. But consider this Jiraiya has at least 4 summons he has used in battle and another one he was going to use against kisame, there is katsuyu, Manda, Orochimaru, Jiraiya and Tsunade. That is 10 beings that must be caught in genjutsu at once. If the bros don't watch the sannin they'd break out themselves, but if they keep an eye on the sannin the summons can insert chakra into those affected by genjutsu or physically hurt them to get out of genjutsu. In fact if a mini katsuyu is on everyone's back like a leech she'd only have to insert chakra or do a mini acid. If they go for the controlling the summons then the sannin will just release them from the genjutsu. If everyone on team Sannin, summons included had a Katsuyu on their back while the rest of Katsuyu did battle, if katsuyu got caught anyone can save her and if anyone else got katsuyu could save them.
After genjutsu their is the threat of Amaterasu. That's always the next line of defense. Say they do hit a sannin with it. Orochimaru sheds his skin. Hitting Tsunade with it is a bad idea because the next time she goes to attack them, they'd be screwed trying to put out the black flames she just put on them. If you think well Susanoo will protect them, the flames that were on Sasuke's susanoo were not attacking it but as Mei's lava showed, Susanoo melts and if the black flames are attacking and the flames are hotter than Mei's lava Susanoo will melt and the bros will still be screwed. Amaterasu suppression seems like it takes a lot out of you based on Sasuke's response when he fought Bee. You may argue she'd be in too much Pain to fight back. But I don't think so. She was completely impaled and continued to fight, 3 yasaka magatamas at point blank range didn't stop her, nor did hemophobia in conjunction with the sword of kusanagi's three wounds and Kabuto cutting her abdomen, respiratory, and bicep muscles. Which leaves Jiraiya its a well known fact that Jiraiya has fire seals. We also know that a regular katon can fight Amaterasu because Sasuke did it. This is speculation and isn't really included in my argument but jiraiya took those flames for research he may have found there weakness as Itachi says every jutsu has a weakness and he is amaterasu user. So spamming Amaterasu would be a lost cause here. End of the speculation disclaimer. In addition Sage Mode allows you to sense and Jiraiya would sense speedy attacks and thanks to his reflex boost from SM be able to dodge in all likelihood. Which brings us to Susanoo arrows. Orochimaru has his Rashoumon Gates, Body Shedding, Gathering of Snakes, and Slithering Snake. Jiraiya has his sensing and his reflexes and Tsunade has her Byakougou. Oro has info on Itachi, and sasuke's abilities are really only that of Itachi's sense they are the same eyes.
Let's not forget Jiraiya's unnamed Barrier that IIRC took out the human path. Should someone mistakenly enter it, they die. The bros can't just safely sit in Susanoo and win. If they come to use taijutsu against Jiraiya and don't know about the barrier, one of them dies. 1 vs the 3 will lose.
EDIT: Sasuke really can't have EMS if Itachi has MS and is living...just something I noticed. Not that we've seen much from EMS Sasuke.
None of them has the power to break susanoo,susanoo weak to heat an acid Wat don't bring sasuke weak susanoo in this that acid would not do anything to the susanoo he has right now....any summoning they have will be controlled by the sharingan so summoning something will not be good...ima tell u as the bros told oro anything u try in front of these eyes will be useless. 1 of them will fall to genjutsu an once they do it's over lol oro an tsunade can stall 4 j- man hahahahahahahahahahhahah they will hey raped so hard j- man takes to long we already seen how fast itachi beat oro by the time j- man gets done he will be alone.
 
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None of them has the power to break susanoo,susanoo weak to heat an acid Wat don't bring sasuke weak susanoo in this that acid would not do anything to the susanoo he has right now....any summoning they have will be controlled by the sharingan so summoning something will not be good...ima tell u as the bros told oro anything u try in front of these eyes will be useless. 1 of them will fall to genjutsu an once they do it's over lol oro an tsunade can stall 4 j- man hahahahahahahahahahhahah they will hey raped so hard j- man takes to long we already seen how fast itachi beat oro by the time j- man gets done he will be alone.
This type of argumentation, is so full of fallacy.
Your assuming Katsuyu's acid can do nothing to Susanoo but you have nothing to support your claim. We've seen that Susanoo is weak to acid. We've never seen it withstand acid. Katsuyu's acid melts through solid rock. Mei's lava melted the Susanoo skeleton. Goemon would have no trouble doing the same. With 7 summons present he'd need to get all of them in genjutsu at once and stop the sannin from awakening them. And as I've stated Katsuyu is the counter to Genjutsu with such large numbers. Orochimaru prime and Tsunade and 5 summons are more than enough to stall for the preparation of Jiraiya's sage Mode. You don't actually have any proof to support your conclusion except (Uh Itachi beat Orochimaru, and Sasuke beat an Orochimaru on his deathbed.) Those arguments fail as Oro didn't have intent to harm at all. He only wanted to take over the body against Itachi. Oro was half dead when he fought sasuke. Tsunade provides rather good counters to the sharingan. But I've already explained why they will not lose.
 

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This type of argumentation, is so full of fallacy.
Your assuming Katsuyu's acid can do nothing to Susanoo but you have nothing to support your claim. We've seen that Susanoo is weak to acid. We've never seen it withstand acid. Katsuyu's acid melts through solid rock. Mei's lava melted the Susanoo skeleton. Goemon would have no trouble doing the same. With 7 summons present he'd need to get all of them in genjutsu at once and stop the sannin from awakening them. And as I've stated Katsuyu is the counter to Genjutsu with such large numbers. Orochimaru prime and Tsunade and 5 summons are more than enough to stall for the preparation of Jiraiya's sage Mode. You don't actually have any proof to support your conclusion except (Uh Itachi beat Orochimaru, and Sasuke beat an Orochimaru on his deathbed.) Those arguments fail as Oro didn't have intent to harm at all. He only wanted to take over the body against Itachi. Oro was half dead when he fought sasuke. Tsunade provides rather good counters to the sharingan. But I've already explained why they will not lose.
All of those summons u speak of r to big they will be amateratsued in no time sasuke arrows will eat them alive while some get put in genjutsu....my proof is that we all kno a final form susanoo is stronger an tougher than a rib cage showing susanoo come on now don't be stupid....lol oro him self told sasuke he was not stronger than itachi..tsunade no 1 cares about her she will be kill in no time..A healthy itachi will an a ems sasuke will be to much not many people can face the sharingan an win..
 

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All of those summons u speak of r to big they will be amateratsued in no time sasuke arrows will eat them alive while some get put in genjutsu....my proof is that we all kno a final form susanoo is stronger an tougher than a rib cage showing susanoo come on now don't be stupid....lol oro him self told sasuke he was not stronger than itachi..tsunade no 1 cares about her she will be kill in no time..A healthy itachi will an a ems sasuke will be to much not many people can face the sharingan an win..
So I assume every one is standing perfectly still so the bros can pull this of right. Because the summons will be looking the uchihas in the eye and while casting genjutsu they will simultaneously spamming amaterasu and shooting arrows. Susanoo arrow against Tsunade is pointless and Katsuya can just let the part of her that is on fire separate from the rest of her. But with it becoming a 10 on two fight I really don't see this techs just being spammed. With ten on one opponents can overwhelm When have we ever seen a full susanoo dodge a large attack. Show me one page. Susanoo may be tougher than a rib cage but when Susanoo is melting it is also weaker. Jiraiya can melt it and so can Katsuyu. And Tsunade is stronger than raikage and if raikage with oonoki's help can do this much damage to a melting susanoo one step away from being complete
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(even with Oonoki's help he didn't crack a healthy (not melting) susanoo rib cage) (it took his strongest tech against Sasuke (full body slam aka raiger bomb)to break a rib on the rib cage where as a punch from Tsunade cracked several ribs and a single punch snapped the sword) then there is no logical reason Tsunade can't do the same to a melting full Susanoo or why several strikes won't break through Susanoo. She doesn't have to finish Susanoo with one punch.
 
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