I think that Hiruzen is frankly a little bit overrated. He has no real counters for MS genjutsu, he definitely has no counter for Amaterasu, and he has nothing with which to hurt or break Susanoo.you think so? i think in his prime 3rd could be a good match he did surpass hashi in my opinion he could be a really good match for madara
i suppose you do have a substantial point there however anywhere i look the strongest hokage is consistently stated to be hiruzen so im thinking if anybody could go against someone as OP'ed as edo madara it would be himI think that Hiruzen is frankly a little bit overrated. He has no real counters for MS genjutsu, he definitely has no counter for Amaterasu, and he has nothing with which to hurt or break Susanoo.
Add into that his taijutsu is good, but not great, and his speed and strength aren't really noteworthy either.
I'm not all that sure why he was thought of as the strongest Hokage. Maybe just because he was the longest reigning Hokage.
from what we have seen of course he is a little overatted. Since people always assume he was the best kage since he was called the god of shinobi. But people dont realize that we only saw that from a leaf ninja point of view im sure a cloud ninja would say that the third raikage was the best or a stone ninja would say that anooki was the best.I think that Hiruzen is frankly a little bit overrated. He has no real counters for MS genjutsu, he definitely has no counter for Amaterasu, and he has nothing with which to hurt or break Susanoo.
Add into that his taijutsu is good, but not great, and his speed and strength aren't really noteworthy either.
I'm not all that sure why he was thought of as the strongest Hokage. Maybe just because he was the longest reigning Hokage.
yes however even in the databooks he is considered the best and how he stacks up against the other hokages doesn't matter what matters is that he was stated to have surpassed his predecessorsfrom what we have seen of course he is a little overatted. Since people always assume he was the best kage since he was called the god of shinobi. But people dont realize that we only saw that from a leaf ninja point of view im sure a cloud ninja would say that the third raikage was the best or a stone ninja would say that anooki was the best.
Though of course edo madara wins.
i guess you may be right.But where do i find these databooks anyway?yes however even in the databooks he is considered the best and how he stacks up against the other hokages doesn't matter what matters is that he was stated to have surpassed his predecessors
just google it should come up on the first pagei guess you may be right.But where do i find these databooks anyway?
that would be my guess too i dont see him coming out alive 10 times out of 10 but at the very least i can see him giving him one really tough fight and winning maybe 2 times out of 10edo Madara should destroy him, although I can see Hiruzen pulling out Reaper Death Seal as a last resort.