Sarada's Potential: Genjutsu

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Basically I wanted to discuss two questions regarding Sarada's potential.

1# If Sarada awakens MS and gains the Yin Seal do you think the regenerative abilities of the jutsu yin seal be enough to reverse the effects of the ocular degeneration?

2# If Sarada were to ever awaken MS is it possible that she could near produce Shisui level or just really high level genjutsu with the yin seal. The yin seal doesn't just have to be used for healing or strength.
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The yin seal can be used to produce jutsu that would otherwise require a lot of chakra like Kotoamatsukami in which Shisui needs a decade worth of charging to perform. Tbh, seeing how it is called the Yin Seal (Yin = spiritual energy (精神エネルギー, seishin enerugī; English TV "Mental Energy" gained from the mind.) One would think that it would be used for Yin Release but I find it weird that none of the Yin Seal users use yin release. In fact the only time it has even been used for yin purposes is when Sakura helped Obito, but what ever.

Any way back to my questions do you think either 1# or 2# are plausible?
If not please present reasons
 

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1. Need ems or senju dna.

2. Depends but i highly doubt yin seal will contribute to her genjutsu skills.
 

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1. Need ems or senju dna.

2. Depends but i highly doubt yin seal will contribute to her genjutsu skills.

Well those are only the known methods :|

2. Y? more chakra should lead to bigger jutsu.

Genjutsu (幻術; Literally meaning "Illusionary Techniques") are techniques that are employed in the same fashion as ninjutsu,
 

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Well those are only the known methods :|

2. Y? more chakra should lead to bigger jutsu.

Genjutsu (幻術; Literally meaning "Illusionary Techniques") are techniques that are employed in the same fashion as ninjutsu,
Anything beyond those methods is speculation.
More chakra =/= genjutsu potency. But sarada would benefit from the seal since its the highest form of chakra control.
 
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Her Uchiha genes and Mega-Fodder genes cancel each other out, she's just an average, run of the mill ninja.
 

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1. Yes
2. No, it would be far greater than KA.
 

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Anything beyond those methods is speculation.
More chakra =/= genjutsu potency.

Well, yeah genjutsu potency depends on the skill of the user as well as the doujutsu in terms of genjutsu, but both of her parents are extremely proficient at chakra control. In fact getting the yin seal requires great chakra proficiency.

So Sarada seems like a natural as well as the intellectual type
 
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Basically I wanted to discuss two questions regarding Sarada's potential.

1# If Sarada awakens MS and gains the Yin Seal do you think the regenerative abilities of the jutsu yin seal be enough to reverse the effects of the ocular degeneration?

2# If Sarada were to ever awaken MS is it possible that she could near produce Shisui level or just really high level genjutsu with the yin seal. The yin seal doesn't just have to be used for healing or strength.
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The yin seal can be used to produce jutsu that would otherwise require a lot of chakra like Kotoamatsukami in which Shisui needs a decade worth of charging to perform. Tbh, seeing how it is called the Yin Seal (Yin = spiritual energy (精神エネルギー, seishin enerugī; English TV "Mental Energy" gained from the mind.) One would think that it would be used for Yin Release but I find it weird that none of the Yin Seal users use yin release. In fact the only time it has even been used for yin purposes is when Sakura helped Obito, but what ever.

Any way back to my questions do you think either 1# or 2# are plausible?
If not please present reasons

The ten years cool down effect wasn't necessarily because of the chakra charging but still i get your point and it's highly possible tbh.

good thread.
 

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Well if yin seal makes tsuna look young i bet its good enough for sight degradation that OLD tsunade doesnt have either.
 

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The ten years cool down effect wasn't necessarily because of the chakra charging but still i get your point and it's highly possible tbh.

good thread.
Thanks and nice Gintama avy
Well if yin seal makes tsuna look young i bet its good enough for sight degradation that OLD tsunade doesnt have either.

good point aging involve the degradation of the body as well so if it can reverse those reversing oracular degradation shouldn't be out of the question
 

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1 honestly no because we dont kno if regeneration helps losing the light in the eyes

2 yes with sakura training her in yin release and sasuke teaching her to control her sharingan and them both being the best genjustu users of their era she'll become the best kunoichi in the village and one of the best all around ninja using a sharingan traind in tiajutsu by sasuke and sakura strength with yin release.
 

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1) I'm not really sure; we've never really been given an explanation on how exactly the use of MS causes blindness. The blindness of the MS seems to be related more to the user's chakra than to any type of cellular damage that is healed by the Byakugou. Since planting Itachi's eyes into Sasuke was able to regain their light, I don't think there was anything physically wrong with them.

2) We've only seen users of the Hyakugou use their stored chakra to enhance strength or healing jutsus. I see no reason why it couldn't be used for ninjutsu or genjutsu to increase the scale/power of the attack.
 

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that would be cool and new to see and a way for her to have ms without a sibling to take eyes from. a combination of her parents.
 

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1) I'm not really sure; we've never really been given an explanation on how exactly the use of MS causes blindness. The blindness of the MS seems to be related more to the user's chakra than to any type of cellular damage that is healed by the Byakugou. Since planting Itachi's eyes into Sasuke was able to regain their light, I don't think there was anything physically wrong with them.

2) We've only seen users of the Hyakugou use their stored chakra to enhance strength or healing jutsus. I see no reason why it couldn't be used for ninjutsu or genjutsu to increase the scale/power of the attack.

As for #1 I doubt that it has to deal with their chakra. If anything I would say that the "light" inside the sharingan is just some power that just degrades over use. If so healing won't help since is more like a fire growing dim rather than a physical problem.
 
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1) I'm not really sure; we've never really been given an explanation on how exactly the use of MS causes blindness. The blindness of the MS seems to be related more to the user's chakra than to any type of cellular damage that is healed by the Byakugou. Since planting Itachi's eyes into Sasuke was able to regain their light, I don't think there was anything physically wrong with them.

2) We've only seen users of the Hyakugou use their stored chakra to enhance strength or healing jutsus. I see no reason why it couldn't be used for ninjutsu or genjutsu to increase the scale/power of the attack.

1) MS simply over strains the eyes, hashi cells healing is good enough to fight sight degradation so should be tsuna's healing.

2) True logically with greater skill of bigger chakra manipulation one should get better results.
 

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Her potential spans as far as decent 3T Genjutsu. The Mangekyō Sharingan and other Dōjutsu further along the line of Sharingan evolution will become techniques that have been lost.
 

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Her potential spans as far as decent 3T Genjutsu. The Mangekyō Sharingan and other Dōjutsu further along the line of Sharingan evolution will become techniques that have been lost.

All she needs to do is have someone important to her die :|
EMS is dead though cuz I doubt Sasuke wants his children taking eyes.
 

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All she needs to do is have someone important to her die :|

And how often do you think she'll make bonds so important that she'll unlock the Mangekyō Sharingan? And even if she did make such bonds, I doubt she'll feel the emotional trauma sufficient to unlock the Mangekyō.
 

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And how often do you think she'll make bonds so important that she'll unlock the Mangekyō Sharingan? And even if she did make such bonds, I doubt she'll feel the emotional trauma sufficient to unlock the Mangekyō.

Her cat died - MS.

MS blindness was stupid concept anyway retconning all uchiha so others stand a chance, Yin seal is good solution for that as Sarada doesnt have any spare eyes unless sasuke dies.

Question is if he planned it, but if not he sure will use it anyway, it's like 1+1 :cool:
 

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And how often do you think she'll make bonds so important that she'll unlock the Mangekyō Sharingan? And even if she did make such bonds, I doubt she'll feel the emotional trauma sufficient to unlock the Mangekyō.

Depends. They could lose a teammate
 
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