There is nothing retarded here. Everybody knows SHs we're still persuaded by BMs crew. And without Jinbei n Fishmen they would be screwed. So stop saying that Cake saved there lives.
Let's be honest to rescue Sanji guys like Pedro sacrificed his life and Jinbei (another SH) stayed behind. If u want to look at the things that way then remember SHs lost way too much to recover him.
But without the cake, Jimbei would've never been in a position to save their lives because Big Mom would've killed them on the Sunny when she was there. The cake got her to abandon the ship. Therefore the cake saved their lives. No matter what retarded spin you want to give to it.
If Sanji didn't go with them in the first place on Zou Big Mom would've hunted them and their loved ones down and killed them in the New World if you want to play the game let's go back in time. We could but you seem to have a very selective memory or you're just not so good at this.
Sanji's Dream is to find the ALL BLUE because it is the paradise of all chef. Finding the ALL Blue to a chef is like finding the one piece to a pirate or achieving the goal of worlds greatest swordsman as a swordsman.
Hahahahahhahahahah. Love cook is a joke. He once claimed he doesn't have a problem with Zoro but if you look through his posting history he's constantly going into threads where Zoro is the topic just to talk shit and be an advocate for Sanji and his fruit cakes
Hahahahahhahahahah. Love cook is a joke. He once claimed he doesn't have a problem with Zoro but if you look through his posting history he's constantly going into threads where Zoro is the topic just to talk shit and be an advocate for Sanji and his fruit cakes
Isnt that literally what everyone else does to sanji, when its a thread about Zoro or Sanji. People go into sanji threads just to talk $hi+ about sanji and somehow tie it to zoro.
Isnt that literally what everyone else does to sanji, when its a thread about Zoro or Sanji. People go into sanji threads just to talk $hi+ about sanji and somehow tie it to zoro.
Read the Original Post clearly. This isnt a thread about who is stronger or who has better character developement. This is a thread compairing their roles on the ship. Right now (Or at least after this Arc) Sanji could be recognized as a Yonko's head chef, while Zoro hasnt been able to demonstrate feats that would classify him as a Yonko head swordsman.
Lol what the heck is a Yonko head Swordsman
Let me get this straight to your head. Every arc Post TS Sanji is cooking something and pleasing his enemies. This is happening for a long time. What he did here was no different. Tomorrow if Nami finds the coords of Wano doesn't makes her Yonko lvl navigator.
Neither Brook will become Yonko lvl musician if he sings/plays an instrument for a Yonko.
There is nothing like Yonko lvl Chefs.
So stop the BS.
But without the cake, Jimbei would've never been in a position to save their lives because Big Mom would've killed them on the Sunny when she was there. The cake got her to abandon the ship. Therefore the cake saved their lives. No matter what retarded spin you want to give to it.
Yea n then what??? There was still a fleet behind them n it was Fishmen combined effort to stall them helped SHs escape. Mama is also back to her senses if Fishmen didn't stayed behind she would have crushed SH.
Bottom line that Cake didn't helped them escape.
If Sanji didn't go with them in the first place on Zou Big Mom would've hunted them and their loved ones down and killed them in the New World if you want to play the game let's go back in time. We could but you seem to have a very selective memory or you're just not so good at this.
Let's not go back to old debates: whether or not Sanji should have went with Capone or not.
If she wanted to hunt Sanji she need to enter Kaido's territory which will led to Kaido vs BM(something which u we're rooting for)
So coming back to Cake island arc.
There were 7guys(Luffy, Brook, Chopper, Carrot, Nami, Pedro n that Mink guy) who went to rescue Sanji.
Pedro is dead another mink guy is also good as dead.
Jinbei stayed behind.
Fishmen pirates n Vinsmokes are also basically screwed.
This is enough to prove that Luffy paid a good price saving Sanji.
And the so called Year of Sanji turned out to be nothing more than a family drama/baking a cake.
Sanji's Dream is to find the ALL BLUE because it is the paradise of all chef. Finding the ALL Blue to a chef is like finding the one piece to a pirate or achieving the goal of worlds greatest swordsman as a swordsman.
Hahahahahhahahahah. Love cook is a joke. He once claimed he doesn't have a problem with Zoro but if you look through his posting history he's constantly going into threads where Zoro is the topic just to talk shit and be an advocate for Sanji and his fruit cakes
When I say that I don't have a problem with Zoro can't that go hand in hand with me telling why I like Sanji in threads where you're ripping into his character for no reason ?
That makes no sense that you put words in my mouth that I have problems with character A, which is not true. Why you constantly post your problems about character B.
Yea n then what??? There was still a fleet behind them n it was Fishmen combined effort to stall them helped SHs escape. Mama is also back to her senses if Fishmen didn't stayed behind she would have crushed SH.
Bottom line that Cake didn't helped them escape.
Who cares ? You said the cake didn't save their lives. I said you were wrong.
Bottom line is that the cake saved their lives, and that your statement that the cake didn't save their lives was wrong.
I don't really care what happens before or after that because that wasn't the discussion. Because if the Merry didn't show up at Ennies Lobby everybody would've died there already. So it's kind of irrelevant to distract with other clutch moments where the SH's got saved.
If you can't acknowledge that the cake got big mom of their backs, you're a joke that argues against Oda. Good luck with that.
You're taking it so literally though, that is not what finding all blue is about. It's just like Usopp's and Chopper's dream.
It's not like all blue is the ultimate goal. It's a spot where all fish of every ocean can be found. So it's cool spot but nothing more than that. The point of finding it is the journey of evolving yourself as a chef and learn new skills along the way like the Okama recipes etc. The big reward is that he ends up at the world's best fishmarket where he has all the resources and can put his skill to work.
It's never been said he wants to be the world's best chef, but everybody should be able to read through the lines that Sanji isn't coming along for a field trip just to see a specific ocean.
It seems u ran out of arguments ain't it.
U simply can't comprehend the fact that there were guys who can sky walk n reach Sunny.
U can't understand that BM ship was shooting canons n destroying ships n if it wasn't for plot Sunny would have been destroyed.
U are only stick with Mama stop chasing SHs as if that gave SHs free pass from Mama's territory.
So here is a thing stop acting like a retard n give credits to the man who stayed behind n stopped BMs crew.
Lol what the heck is a Yonko head Swordsman
Let me get this straight to your head. Every arc Post TS Sanji is cooking something and pleasing his enemies. This is happening for a long time. What he did here was no different. Tomorrow if Nami finds the coords of Wano doesn't makes her Yonko lvl navigator.
Neither Brook will become Yonko lvl musician if he sings/plays an instrument for a Yonko.
There is nothing like Yonko lvl Chefs.
So stop the BS.
My Mistake!! I though I was having an actually discussion with an actual credible person, but you obviosly are a troll. Obviously a Yonko's Head Swordsman, would be the Strongest swordman or Top Swordsman in a yonko's crew. You clearly dont see fodder holding top spots in a yonko's crew.
This was your second troll comment.
Unless you just dont read the manga, the cake clearly helped the strawhats escape Big Mom's Rampage.
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It seems u ran out of arguments ain't it.
U simply can't comprehend the fact that there were guys who can sky walk n reach Sunny.
U can't understand that BM ship was shooting canons n destroying ships n if it wasn't for plot Sunny would have been destroyed.
U are only stick with Mama stop chasing SHs as if that gave SHs free pass from Mama's territory.
So here is a thing stop acting like a retard n give credits to the man who stayed behind n stopped BMs crew.
The characters who could sky walk were on coaco island fighting the vinsmokes. Unless you have eveidence that their were pirates in smoothie or difuku's crew who could skywalk?
Jimbe was doing his job as a helmsman to avoid cannon fire, and the fishman showing up does not negate the fact that the strawhats and their ship would have been obliterated earlier had big mom not left the ship. Her absence gave them a far greater chance of leaving the territory.
Please finalize everyone's thoughts of you being a troll, by continuing to debate these pages that obviously contradict you
My Mistake!! I though I was having an actually discussion with an actual credible person, but you obviosly are a troll. Obviously a Yonko's Head Swordsman, would be the Strongest swordman or Top Swordsman in a yonko's crew. You clearly dont see fodder holding top spots in a yonko's crew.
yea right said by the guy who created a thread to troll
Unless you just dont read the manga, the cake clearly helped the strawhats escape Big Mom's Rampage.
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Jimbe was doing his job as a helmsman to avoid cannon fire, and the fishman showing up does not negate the fact that the strawhats and their ship would have been obliterated earlier had big mom not left the ship. Her absence gave them a far greater chance of leaving the territory.
First let me ask u do u consider Smoothie a threat or not??? She was right behind them.
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so there problems didnot ended after mama went behind bege.
Now they have already assembled there Grand fleet which was just infront of them.
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The same fleet got destroyed/stopped thanks to Vinsmokes(yes not by the cake).
so without the efforts of Vinsmokes it would have been next to impossible for Sanji to escape that island with luffy
Now there was another fleet which was infront of SHs and daifuku has the range to attack SHs ship
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and Fishmen basically helped them pass that fleet
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they stopped the ship of the Yonko commander
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Another thing genius it was that giant fishmen who saved there ship from BM's ship otherwise that ship would have been destroyed
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So basically they cleared the path for SHs to escape and lets not forget they were also the reason why those sea snails werent there. So yes Fishmen played an important/bigger role in SHs escape(which u apparently u cant see).
oh this is just a bonus for u(Mama back to her senses n going back to kill SHs)
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That's cake just change the trajectory of BM nothing else.
There were shit tonne of people who were still in front of SHs who were ready to kill them. Even Sanji almost got owned by BMs crew unless Germa came to give them a pass.
Pretty much. JINBEI another SH stayed behind to give SHs pass isn't even consider since Sanji faps are busy circle jerking a Cake rather
There is nothing retarded here. Everybody knows SHs we're still persuaded by BMs crew. And without Jinbei n Fishmen they would be screwed. So stop saying that Cake saved there lives.
Let's be honest to rescue Sanji guys like Pedro sacrificed his life and Jinbei (another SH) stayed behind. If u want to look at the things that way then remember SHs lost way too much to recover him.
He has no feats that put him above Zoro. His "Year of Sanji" nonsense was him baking a cake. Which didn't even matter as shown in the Manga. If it wasn't for the sun pirates, wadatsumi (I think that's how you spell it), jinbei, and Germa 66, they would have all been dead. Also his latest bounty increase was because he was part of Luffy master plan in attacking a yonkou (joke) and his name Vinsmoke being added to bounty, nothing more.
He has no feats that put him above Zoro. His "Year of Sanji" nonsense was him baking a cake. Which didn't even matter as shown in the Manga. If it wasn't for the sun pirates, wadatsumi (I think that's how you spell it), jinbei, and Germa 66, they would have all been dead. Also his latest bounty increase was because he was part of Luffy master plan in attacking a yonkou (joke) and his name Vinsmoke being added to bounty, nothing more.
