[Discussion] Sanji surpasses Zoro in Wholecake Island

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I would say Zoros top feat was when Zoro cut Picas his stone body in half and defeating him.

So tell me Sanjis again?
Setting Wadatsumi's entire body on fire, which is comparable in size to Pica's golem. There's also the fact that Wadatsumi's body would be stronger than something made of the stone and is the same size.
 

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Setting Wadatsumi's entire body on fire, which is comparable in size to Pica's golem. There's also the fact that Wadatsumi's body would be stronger than something made of the stone and is the same size.
For one it wasnt his entire body. and Zoro beat Pica one on one and Sanji had Jinbeis help. So not even close in my opinion.
 

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For one it wasnt his entire body. and Zoro beat Pica one on one and Sanji had Jinbeis help. So not even close in my opinion.
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Zoro beat Pica one on one, yet had help from Elizabello.

Jinbei's "help" was just sending Wadatsumi flying so he couldn't hurt anyone. Jinbei did absolutely nothing to increase the range of Sanji's attack, which matched the range of Zoro's.
 

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It was his entire body

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Zoro beat Pica one on one, yet had help from Elizabello.

Jinbei's "help" was just sending Wadatsumi flying so he couldn't hurt anyone. Jinbei did absolutely nothing to increase the range of Sanji's attack, which matched the range of Zoro's.
Completely forgot about Sanji and Wadatsumi!!!
Great Catch!!
 

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It was his entire body
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Zoro beat Pica one on one, yet had help from Elizabello.

Jinbei's "help" was just sending Wadatsumi flying so he couldn't hurt anyone. Jinbei did absolutely nothing to increase the range of Sanji's attack, which matched the range of Zoro's.
Lol Sanji's best feat also includes getting his leg cracked by Vergo(Executive)
Zoro's best feat was to beat Pica(Executive)
 

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Lol Sanji's best feat also includes getting his leg cracked by Vergo(Executive)
Zoro's best feat was to beat Pica(Executive)
You seem to be looking over the fact that Sanji was clearly his superior in speed and strength. Knocking vergo back twice without haki and making him bleed, which was a feat smoker could only do with haki.

Im not taking anything away from Zoro's feats because the scale to his attack which he used to defeat Pica was INSANE!!!!! But dont try to knock Sanji when he is just as impressive.

I dont think Doflamingo would praise the attack power of fodder:
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Sanji was also injured before that because of Nami being in his body and he proceeded to match Vergo blow for blow with no further iniury after tossing him around twice. Try again.
Lol injury got nothing to do with Vergo cracking his leg. It showed Vergos strength. Sanji did manage to push him back but Vergo didn't even displayed his full strength in that fight.

Well Vergo was superior to Pica. So we would never know what happened if the roles were reversed. That would be forever speculation.
They both were more or less same (full body Armament)

You seem to be looking over the fact that Sanji was clearly his superior in speed and strength. Knocking vergo back twice without haki and making him bleed, which was a feat smoker could only do with haki.

Im not taking anything away from Zoro's feats because the scale to his attack which he used to defeat Pica was INSANE!!!!! But dont try to knock Sanji when he is just as impressive.

I dont think Doflamingo would praise the attack power of fodder:
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Lol that attack did nothing to Doffy. Praising got nothing to do with Strength
 

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Lol injury got nothing to do with Vergo cracking his leg. It showed Vergos strength. Sanji did manage to push him back but Vergo didn't even displayed his full strength in that fight.



They both were more or less same (full body Armament)


Lol that attack did nothing to Doffy. Praising got nothing to do with Strength
LMAO

Praising has nothing to do with STRENGTH???? :lmao:

Then what was Doflamingo referencing in his statement?
 

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Lol injury got nothing to do with Vergo cracking his leg. It showed Vergos strength. Sanji did manage to push him back but Vergo didn't even displayed his full strength in that fight.
No, it shows Sanji was injured beforehand. Nami's hit was able to cause him pain, so Vergo cracking his leg isn't special.

Lol that attack did nothing to Doffy. Praising got nothing to do with Strength
Yeah cause Doffy was talking about his cooking, huh?
 

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They both were more or less same (full body Armament)
I don't think that is a correct measurement of strength. Because Zoro was only able to coat armament on his sword so that would mean he would lose by default going up against Pica right, since he was full body ?

Vergo was the original seat, and right hand man of Doffy. He had way more praise and even in death he hasn't been injured seriously by physical attacks. The only reason Law beat him was because of his Devil Fruit, and even with that he had to go all out because that used to fail before.

Smoker lost HARD against Vergo who wasn't even in his best form. Pica was strong but he wasn't a fighter like Vergo was. If it were up to Pica he would hide behind his rocks all day. That is why his body, haki and fighting power is not on the level of Vergo. Vergo was able to bend a thick metal door with the airwave of a swing from a bamboo stick. Don't tell me they're more or less the same. If Vergo hits Pica over the head with that it's over.
 

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I don't think that is a correct measurement of strength. Because Zoro was only able to coat armament on his sword so that would mean he would lose by default going up against Pica right, since he was full body ?

Vergo was the original seat, and right hand man of Doffy. He had way more praise and even in death he hasn't been injured seriously by physical attacks. The only reason Law beat him was because of his Devil Fruit, and even with that he had to go all out because that used to fail before.

Smoker lost HARD against Vergo who wasn't even in his best form. Pica was strong but he wasn't a fighter like Vergo was. If it were up to Pica he would hide behind his rocks all day. That is why his body, haki and fighting power is not on the level of Vergo. Vergo was able to bend a thick metal door with the airwave of a swing from a bamboo stick. Don't tell me they're more or less the same.If Vergo hits Pica over the head with that it's over.
And how exactly is he going to force Pica out of the golem?
More importantly,what the hell is he going to do against the golem? You think his bamboo can produce power equal to Daisen Sekai?
 

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And how exactly is he going to force Pica out of the golem?
More importantly,what the hell is he going to do against the golem? You think his bamboo can produce power equal to Daisen Sekai?
He knows Pica, he knows how he fights. he is a proficient haki user in both categories. Oda said Zoro's specialty isn't CoO yet he was good enough to locate Pica. So Vergo would do a better job there.

Pica is hiding in stone, which has been the the baseline destruction material since arc 2 of One Piece. In my previous post I already said that just the wind of the swing of the bamboo stick was enough to fold a thick steel door. So yes I do think Vergo is capable of breaking down the golem if he has to, even with his bamboo.

But I don't think Vergo needs to go the route of completely destroying and sectoring that thing of. Like I said he has superior haki over Zoro so he could target Pica better. And the destructive force of his blunt weapon is bigger to a statue because it causes it to crumble where as a sword leaves a clean cut, meaning also more wiggle room for Pica.

Vergo would be way better suited to handle Pica, just like Luffy would if he would've stayed and fought him. Vergo also has a higher level of intellect and is able to fly and move at rokushiki speeds.

Meaning Vergo would smoke Pica.
 

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He knows Pica, he knows how he fights. he is a proficient haki user in both categories. Oda said Zoro's specialty isn't CoO yet he was good enough to locate Pica. So Vergo would do a better job there.

Pica is hiding in stone, which has been the the baseline destruction material since arc 2 of One Piece. In my previous post I already said that just the wind of the swing of the bamboo stick was enough to fold a thick steel door. So yes I do think Vergo is capable of breaking down the golem if he has to, even with his bamboo.

But I don't think Vergo needs to go the route of completely destroying and sectoring that thing of. Like I said he has superior haki over Zoro so he could target Pica better. And the destructive force of his blunt weapon is bigger to a statue because it causes it to crumble where as a sword leaves a clean cut, meaning also more wiggle room for Pica.

Vergo would be way better suited to handle Pica, just like Luffy would if he would've stayed and fought him. Vergo also has a higher level of intellect and is able to fly and move at rokushiki speeds.

Meaning Vergo would smoke Pica.
There's no evidence that Vergo's haki is stronger than Zoro's. All we know about Vergo's haki is that his CoA is stronger than Smoker's CoA, which doesn't mean anything since Smoker has no CoA feats, and Vergo has no CoO feats.
 

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There's no evidence that Vergo's haki is stronger than Zoro's. All we know about Vergo's haki is that his CoA is stronger than Smoker's CoA, which doesn't mean anything since Smoker has no CoA feats, and Vergo has no CoO feats.
He does make a good point in that someone who's smashing things would fare better against Pica than someone who's using a sword. This was demonstrated in Luffy vs Pica when he blew off more of Pica than his arms covered in surface area.

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