[Discussion] Sanji surpasses Zoro in Wholecake Island

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Zoro shouldn't even been compared to a fodder like Sanji, there is a reason why Zoro is part of the worst generation while Sanji isn't. Fighting is for real men like Zoro, I guess during his time in the Okama land Sanji understood fighting doesn't fit for a poor fodder like him hence why he is a full time cook now.
 

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Cake didn't helped them escape :lmao:
Even funny how u totally gave the credit to that Cake rather than guys like Jinbei, Fishmen n Germa who stayed behind to give SHs the room to escape.
Regardless of anyone that helped the shs , if big mom wasn't after the cake, they'd all be dead anyways. Thank you sanji
 

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I dont even understand why the OP is comparing Zoro and Sanji here.
Zoro wasn't even a part of WCI arc and yet he is been compared to Sanji.
By this logic the OP should also mention Franky,Robin and Usopp but nah you gotta after Zoro because he's Zoro.

Let's compare Zoro and Sanji in Fishman arc?
One defeated the main boss underwater while the other had nosebleeds and was a comic relief character.

Let's compare Zoro and Sanji in Punk Harzard arc?
One made a DF user so scared that she suffered a mental breakdown while the other ended up being owned by Vergo.

Lets compare Zoro and Sanji in Dressrosa arc?
One stomped a full body haki user while the other ended being destroyed by Doflamingo.
 
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Yeah n they will be also dead if Jinbei didn't free Luffy n Co. from book prison.
OK who gives af about that? Not I. Not any real fan, appreciate the cake baby

No one said no one else saved the shs. I said if sanji didn't make that cake they all would've been dead regardless, so quit talking about other characters, you said sanjis cake did nothing. I explained how it did. And you change the subject? Classy noob
 

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We have reached the conclusion of Whole Cake Island and I know a lot of us were expecting Sanji to display some fighting feats that gave him better standing as one of the Monster Trio of the Straw Hat pirates, but it seems that ODA has allowed Sanji to shine in another way.

In the conclusion of this arc I do believe that Sanji solidified himself as being Yonko Chef Level. What I mean by this is that as of this moment Sanji has demonstrated cooking ability and skill that surpasses a yonko's chef. If Luffy were to become pirate king tommorow Sanji seems to be fully prepared to be a cook that is worthy of the title pirate king's cheft (having KO'd a yonko with a cake that he prepared in mere hours, with nothing but his senses to confirm the ingredience.)
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Meanwhile, Zoro has yet to display that he is a swordsman worthy of being on a pirate kings ship. If we look at this as who has developed their talents via the role on the ship, sanji seem to be quite a bit ahead of Zoro at this point in time.


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I dont even understand why the OP is comparing Zoro and Sanji here.
Zoro wasn't even a part of WCI arc and yet he is been compared to Sanji.
By this logic the OP should also mention Franky,Robin and Usopp but nah you gotta after Zoro because he's Zoro.

Let's compare Zoro and Sanji in Fishman arc?
One defeated the main boss underwater while the other had nosebleeds and was a comic relief character.

Let's compare Zoro and Sanji in Punk Harzard arc?
One made a DF user so scared that she suffered a mental breakdown while the other ended up being owned by Vergo.

Lets compare Zoro and Sanji in Dressrosa arc?
One stomped a full body haki user while the other ended being destroyed by Doflamingo.
What's wrong with comparing Sanji's progress towards his goal with his rival's? Sanji gets shat on 24/7 and here you are being crabby because Zoro's sword skills aren't as great as Sanji's cooking.
 

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I dont even understand why the OP is comparing Zoro and Sanji here.
Zoro wasn't even a part of WCI arc and yet he is been compared to Sanji.
By this logic the OP should also mention Franky,Robin and Usopp but nah you gotta after Zoro because he's Zoro.

Let's compare Zoro and Sanji in Fishman arc?
One defeated the main boss underwater while the other had nosebleeds and was a comic relief character.

Let's compare Zoro and Sanji in Punk Harzard arc?
One made a DF user so scared that she suffered a mental breakdown while the other ended up being owned by Vergo.

Lets compare Zoro and Sanji in Dressrosa arc?
One stomped a full body haki user while the other ended being destroyed by Doflamingo.
I remember Zoro getting owned by Hody underwater and was put in a cage as a result of that.

Also if Zoro wasn't chasing after his swords or sitting on Brownbeard he might've encountered some stronger enemies to fight. Now he was left to fight a lab assistant and the guy below Vergo in the pecking order.

At least it was fun to see Sanji take charge of G5, being trapped in another body, getting abducted, being chased by Big Mom pirates, saving Zou.

Yea I rather have a character that has 1 panel per arc where he cuts someone and says something cool than have a character that has actually more than 1 dimension.

Cake didn't helped them escape :lmao:
Even funny how u totally gave the credit to that Cake rather than guys like Jinbei, Fishmen n Germa who stayed behind to give SHs the room to escape.
That doesn't really matter if they wouldn't have never reached that point now does it ? The cake got Big Mom off the Sunny, so the cake saved them. No matter what retarded spin you want to give to it.

Also Germa being there is also Sanji's credit because he wanted to go back to save them even though he could escape long before the wedding with Luffy. Thanks to that they repaid him.
 
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I dont even understand why the OP is comparing Zoro and Sanji here.
Zoro wasn't even a part of WCI arc and yet he is been compared to Sanji.
By this logic the OP should also mention Franky,Robin and Usopp but nah you gotta after Zoro because he's Zoro.
Don't play dumb. Zoro and Sanji are portrayed as rivals and are constantly pitted against each other in the fandom as a result.

Let's compare Zoro and Sanji in Fishman arc?
One defeated the main boss underwater while the other had nosebleeds and was a comic relief character.
The main boss who was a weakling who's only purpose was to show how much stronger the SHs had become by giving them an enemy that they could stomp. And this was before Hody reached his final strength by ODing on the steroids.

Let's compare Zoro and Sanji in Punk Harzard arc?
One made a DF user so scared that she suffered a mental breakdown while the other ended up being owned by Vergo.
Once again using Zoro fighting a complete weakling as evidence. Sanji wasn't owned by Vergo either; his leg cracked because Nami's inexperience in his body led to it being damaged prior. And even then, he clashed with the rest of Vergo's blows without being injured any further and kicked Vergo around like a ragdoll.

Lets compare Zoro and Sanji in Dressrosa arc?
One stomped a full body haki user while the other ended being destroyed by Doflamingo.
Again using Zoro fighting a weakling as a comparison point? Pica was wayyyy weaker than Doflamingo. I also like how you say "full body Haki user" as though that's supposed to be something special, when way stronger people like Luffy, Law, Big Mom, Katakuri, Doflamingo, Fujitora, and even Zoro have never used Full Body Haki in their fights, even when four out of these seven were in extreme fights. Meanwhile, when Zoro actually went up against someone on Doffy's level(Fujitora), Zoro got demolished.


Try again.
 

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OK who gives af about that? Not I. Not any real fan, appreciate the cake baby
U r dumb that's y u don't give af about Jinbei.
No one said no one else saved the shs. I said if sanji didn't make that cake they all would've been dead regardless, so quit talking about other characters, you said sanjis cake did nothing. I explained how it did. And you change the subject? Classy noob
That's cake just change the trajectory of BM nothing else.
There were shit tonne of people who were still in front of SHs who were ready to kill them. Even Sanji almost got owned by BMs crew unless Germa came to give them a pass.

Many characters have saved the SHC from dangerous situations but yet these people act like Sanji is the first ever to accomplish this feat XD
Pretty much. JINBEI another SH stayed behind to give SHs pass isn't even consider since Sanji faps are busy circle jerking a Cake rather :lmao:

That doesn't really matter if they wouldn't have never reached that point now does it ? The cake got Big Mom off the Sunny, so the cake saved them. No matter what retarded spin you want to give to it.
There is nothing retarded here. Everybody knows SHs we're still persuaded by BMs crew. And without Jinbei n Fishmen they would be screwed. So stop saying that Cake saved there lives.
Also Germa being there is also Sanji's credit because he wanted to go back to save them even though he could escape long before the wedding with Luffy. Thanks to that they repaid him.
Let's be honest to rescue Sanji guys like Pedro sacrificed his life and Jinbei (another SH) stayed behind. If u want to look at the things that way then remember SHs lost way too much to recover him.
 

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I dont even understand why the OP is comparing Zoro and Sanji here.
Zoro wasn't even a part of WCI arc and yet he is been compared to Sanji.
By this logic the OP should also mention Franky,Robin and Usopp but nah you gotta after Zoro because he's Zoro.

Let's compare Zoro and Sanji in Fishman arc?
One defeated the main boss underwater while the other had nosebleeds and was a comic relief character.

Let's compare Zoro and Sanji in Punk Harzard arc?
One made a DF user so scared that she suffered a mental breakdown while the other ended up being owned by Vergo.

Lets compare Zoro and Sanji in Dressrosa arc?
One stomped a full body haki user while the other ended being destroyed by Doflamingo.
Read the Original Post clearly. This isnt a thread about who is stronger or who has better character developement. This is a thread compairing their roles on the ship. Right now (Or at least after this Arc) Sanji could be recognized as a Yonko's head chef, while Zoro hasnt been able to demonstrate feats that would classify him as a Yonko head swordsman.

This has nothing to do with their strength, just the progression they have had in regard to the role in the crew. Nothing about the OP is incorrect.
 

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Sanji’s goal is to find the All Blue, not to become the world’s best chef.
Sanji's Dream is to find the ALL BLUE because it is the paradise of all chef. Finding the ALL Blue to a chef is like finding the one piece to a pirate or achieving the goal of worlds greatest swordsman as a swordsman.

Finding it will make sanji the greatest chef.
 
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