Sakura & Sasuke's Marriage is Abusive

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Lana Del Taka

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Yes she did. She used the word ravage/attack what do you think that means lol?

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Believe it or not she really thought about raping/molesting him....
Even in the Japanese raw it clearly had a aggressive sexual connotation.

Lmao I had a pic of the viz scan lemme find it
 

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The way I see it is that Sasuke and Sakura's relationship is nothing except for Sarada cause I think Sasuke is only in it for Sarada otherwise there is nothing there for him

How can he be in the relationship only for Sarada?
When he clearly said in the last chapter, Sarada only exist, because of his own love for Sakura.....
 

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I am sure you guys are reading too much into what was clearly a comic relief moment.And anyway how the hell can she rape him.He would destroy her literally

Lmao exactly. People are such idiots these days.
 

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" Sakura confesses "NARUTO, I LOVE YOU!" (!!!) But really, she's just lying to Naruto (and lying to herself too), because she's grateful to Naruto for all his help and she's sure that it's pointless to try to love Sasuke.

This comes out of nowhere, and I wish there had been a little more time for this love subplot throughout the manga, but it is handled well in the short space Kishimoto gives it. It psychologically stings: the mingled flattery and satisfaction and hurt and guilt that Naruto feels hearing the girl he likes say "I love you" together with the realization that she doesn't really mean it, and the gratitude and hopelessness and friendship that Sakura feels for him and confuses for love. Such a tangled, sad, beautiful moment.
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- by , writer, journalist, comics artist, and editor. He has edited for Viz Media too.

Not everyone is going to agree with the way you see that scenario.
Yeah of course I'm not saying my perception is the right one :lol.

The way I saw that little scene go down was that Sakura wanted Naruto to forget the promise he made her and thus stop his suffering. Naruto responded in such a way which shows me he's forgotten or moved that promise to the back of his mind. His new goal and top priority was getting through to Sasuke. He felt for the first time like he understood him and wanted to shoulder some of his pain and hatred. Naruto said screw this sentiments Sakura, there is a friend I need to bring back from the darkness.

It may have something to do with him hyperventilating in the land or iron or confronting Obito who revealed the truth behind the Uchiha massacre. Any NaruSaku moment was hugely overshadowed by NaruSasu rivalry.

On the other hand Sasuke confronted Sakura after killing Danzo at the bridge, he was planning to kill her while she was distracted. He barely acknowledged her at all. Same with Kakashi apart from threatening to kill him but when Naruto showed his face, Sasuke's demeanor changed all of a sudden. He was prepared to listen to what Naruto had to say after they clashed. He acknowledged Naruto as the person he wanted to kill the most after that. Even Sakura recognizes the importance of their relationship. Again any romance took less precedence than this rivalry.

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Lmao exactly. People are such idiots these days.

Oh boy....
If you want to analyze the SS dynamics to the core and throw around terms like abusive and other derogatory labels

You better believe I'm gonna do the same for the crack ship of SK...
 

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Example of how quickly literature can sweep a nation. HP had no message or sub-text but it's influence is scary.


Scary? How?

Literature can be influential but barking on the wrong tree won't do any good.
 

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Anyway I couldn't find the viz scan but anyways I guess Sakura wanted to rape Sasuke too?

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Obviously when they say attack they mean like hug. It was obviously used for comic relief. So to all the idiots who said Karin tried to rape Sasuke, ur idiots.
 

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Oh boy....
If you want to analyze the SS dynamics to the core and throw around terms like abusive and other derogatory labels

You better believe I'm gonna do the same for the crack ship of SK...

But I wasn't even doing that lol. I didn't make the thread. SS was abusive verbally and that's fact.
 

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Anyway I couldn't find the viz scan but anyways I guess Sakura wanted to rape Sasuke too?

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Obviously when they say attack they mean like hug. It was obviously used for comic relief. So to all the idiots who said Karin tried to rape Sasuke, ur idiots.

Karin also wanted to lick Sasuke's body during a war. She is a creep.
 

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Their marriage isn't abusive they haven't been together long enough for their marriage to be abusive. Now their previous relationship was abusive because after he left the village he tried to kill her every time they made contact with each other.

An this is the guy she chased around for years who barely payed her any attention when he was there.
 

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Anyway I couldn't find the viz scan but anyways I guess Sakura wanted to rape Sasuke too?

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Obviously when they say attack they mean like hug. It was obviously used for comic relief. So to all the idiots who said Karin tried to rape Sasuke, ur idiots.

OH LORD I'VE SEEN IT ALL lmfao
Are you really comparing those?!
I mean do you not know how to read the context of a scene?

Also are you aware some people say the word attack during a chess match?
 

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Yeah of course I'm not saying my perception is the right one :lol.

The way I saw that little scene go down was that Sakura wanted Naruto to forget the promise he made her and thus stop his suffering. Naruto responded in such a way which shows me he's forgotten or moved that promise to the back of his mind. His new goal and top priority was getting through to Sasuke. He felt for the first time like he understood him and wanted to shoulder some of his pain and hatred. Naruto said screw this sentiments Sakura, there is a friend I need to bring back from the darkness.

It may have something to do with him hyperventilating in the land or iron or confronting Obito who revealed the truth behind the Uchiha massacre. Any NaruSaku moment was hugely overshadowed by NaruSasu rivalry.

On the other hand Sasuke confronted Sakura after killing Danzo at the bridge, he was planning to kill her while she was distracted. He barely acknowledged her at all. Same with Kakashi apart from threatening to kill him but when Naruto showed his face, Sasuke's demeanor changed all of a sudden. He was prepared to listen to what Naruto had to say after they clashed. He acknowledged Naruto as the person he wanted to kill the most after that. Even Sakura recognizes the importance of their relationship. Again any romance took less precedence than this rivalry.

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You think Sasuke needed to distract Sakura for killing her? He asked her to prove she was really going to follow him whatever he does when he told her to kill Karin. She hesitated.

Yeah he told Naruto that he wanted to kill him. And they did succeed in crippling each other. Didn't I already cover this?

All three attacking each other and scarring each other!! What a bunch of abusive friends!

It's funny that people see Sasuke attempting to kill Sakura as abuse while him telling Naruto that he would kill him too, is friendship!!!!!!
 
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OH LORD I'VE SEEN IT ALL lmfao
Are you really comparing those?!
I mean do you not know how to read the context of a scene?

Also are you aware some people say the word attack during a chess match?

Exactly u just proved my point lool
 

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Your point being attack in Sakura's context vastly differs from attack in Karin's context?

No it doesn't lol. First of all tell me how Karin would even be able to rape Sasuke? Knowing he can take her out in one second flat.
 

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You think Sasuke needed to distract Sakura for killing her? He asked her to prove she was really going to follow him whatever he does when he told her to kill Karin. She hesitated.

Yeah he told Naruto that he wanted to kill him. And they did succeed in crippling each other. Didn't I already cover this?

All three attacking each other and scarring each other!! What a bunch of abusive friends!

It's funny that people see Sasuke attempting to kill Sakura as abuse while him telling Naruto that he would kill him too, is friendship!!!!!!
What? I'm not saying that. I'm just saying Sakura and her romance subplot took the backseat while the sasunaru rivalry took centre stage. That's it. Kishi didn't do a good job at conveying romance. Yea they were equally abusive
 

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No it doesn't lol. First of all tell me how Karin would even be able to rape Sasuke? Knowing he can take her out in one second flat.

"My chess match ended in a loss, after my opponent attacked with his Queen"

"The other day my friend bit me, and I decided to retaliate and attack him"

Both sentences use the word attack, but are different in context ,right?
Now lets analyze the scenes you want to compare.

Once Juugo and Suigetsu are out cold, I'm gonna ravage/attack Sasuke like crazy!

Karin want's to attack/ravage Sasuke, a man who in unconscious, and she is blushing profusely while stating this.
This same women, has not only made unwanted advances on him before, but has showed she's capable of crossing the line even further, by stealing personal belongings and using them for an unknown/weird purpose.
She also noted that her comrades are out cold, whether she did this herself or if they are just sleeping, is not made clear.

They say the first attack is the most important one!

Sakura, on the other hand, has stated she's made a first attack, in the sense of someone who made their first significant move, towards a person they are interested in.
The scene can also be compared to that of making a good first impression in the eyes of somebody you like.
Furthermore, the person making the impression is not known to think sexually explicit thoughts. And is a immature girl not a young adult women.

The point is not whether Karin can or would be capable of succeeding in attacking(ravaging) Sasuke, but her thoughts and actions make it clear to readers exactly what she desired to do.
Which is force herself on him sexually, and what do we like to call that here on planet Earth?
 
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lmao sasuke did not give a sht about sakura since day one this pairing only happened cuz sasuke has no other choice either stay with sakura in the village or with karin at oro's hideout which leads to a better choice as in staying with sakura in the village. sakura really disgusts me
 

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Good read. SS is shit, only SS fans are in denial.
 

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You can call this relationship whatever you want...but still SS is the most popular pairing in Japan (FYI) :Rucken:
...most Japanese esp anime lovers would definitely disagree on this.
Many western men continue to believe that Japanese women (as portrayed by Sakura) are docile and obedient, the reality --- very different. (Culture diff perhaps)...告白

TBH, this SasuSaku relationship has no difference to other types of relationship in JP.
Most people there are very committed to their jobs, and thus, do not have the time that it takes to find a relationship.
They do not necessarily seek relationships for the sake of emotional fulfillment. :)
 
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