Sakura and Kakashi Vs Itachi

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He did not use Tsukyomi he used a regular sharingan genjutsu
It was Tsukyomi. It was the exact same illusion as the 1st time he used Tsukuyomi on kakashi. The 2nd time Kakashi tuned paper thin and melted away as it was a clone. Maybe this was the only MS tech he was able to use or maybe Kishi just overlooked that little detail, but the results would have been the same had kakashi not been a clone.
 

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It was Tsukyomi. It was the exact same illusion as the 1st time he used Tsukuyomi on kakashi. The 2nd time Kakashi tuned paper thin and melted away as it was a clone. Maybe this was the only MS tech he was able to use or maybe Kishi just overlooked that little detail, but the results would have been the same had kakashi not been a clone.
Nope... Tsukyomi has a dark moon with red sky... That jutsu was a regular sharingan genjutsu... The manga even states he couldn't use MS so how is Tsukyomi even possible...
 

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It clearly does considering he said he was incapable of using MS and Naruto was able to almost surprise attack him during that fight. where as 100% Itachi killed 2 Naruto clones directly behind him due to his ability to read intentions with his MS
I've never seen you say that only 30% Itachi can use finger genjutsu since 100% hasn't shown that feat(at 100% he may lack chakra control) yet here you claim that 30 % Itachi clone feats be disregarded. What a fanboy.
 

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I've never seen you say that only 30% Itachi can use finger genjutsu since 100% hasn't shown that feat(at 100% he may lack chakra control) yet here you claim that 30 % Itachi clone feats be disregarded. What a fanboy.
you have no comprehension skills. I was referring to the Genjutsu usage and you made a stab at his fight vs Kakashi the second time. 100% itachi fodderized Kakashi......
 

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you have no comprehension skills. I was referring to the Genjutsu usage and you made a stab at his fight vs Kakashi the second time. 100% itachi fodderized Kakashi......
No you idiot i said Itachi's tsukuyomi can be countered by a clone feint as was canonically done in the manga.

Tsukuyomi usage is a huge risk for alive Itachi, he isn't sick but he gets drained using the MS as we've seen multiple times.
 

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No you idiot i said Itachi's tsukuyomi can be countered by a clone feint as was canonically done in the manga.

Tsukuyomi usage is a huge risk for alive Itachi, he isn't sick but he gets drained using the MS as we've seen multiple times.
Tsukyomi was never used on a clone is my point..... So your making yourself look like an idiot

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No you idiot i said Itachi's tsukuyomi can be countered by a clone feint as was canonically done in the manga.

Tsukuyomi usage is a huge risk for alive Itachi, he isn't sick but he gets drained using the MS as we've seen multiple times.
Not to mention he can't perform any other jutsu while he is performing Tsukuyomi. He would be remaining still. So either kakashi or Sakura could end the fight right there. Using Tsukuyomi would be a mistake on Itachi's part as it leaves him vulnerable to the 2nd person's attack.
 

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Overrating? Dude 1 tail powered Kakashi was gonna kamui away the mothafckn Juubi, this is a joke by comparison

Show me a single manga scan that suggests Itachi knows anything about Kamui or how it works.

I'll wait. Cuz if he did, and he knew Kakashi had the same ability as Tobi, Itachi wouldn't have been duped into thinking Tobi was Madara all along.
First of all I said Itachi must have an idea about Kamui because he said, that Tobi/Obito who he thought as Madara when Tobi met him before Uchiha clan massacre is in short Teacher/accomplice of Itachi..And here is the scan
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Now why Itachi said that??
Because Obito must have met him before Uchiha clan massacre and must have taught him more things about Mangekyo Sharingan, and since Kamui is Obito's technique I think he could have displayed it to Itachi, so I think that Itachi had knowledge about Kamui, and speculated that Tobi isn't Madara uchiha but someone else who is using Madara's name in disguise...
And that's why he planned about Amaterasu which activates while making eye contact with Obito's eyes, as a safety measure so that Sasuke won't fall in wrong hands and that's what happened when Obito met Sasuke for the first time..
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Considering the intelligence that Itachi had, I don't see this as impossible thing...

And sorry for making you wait, it took me a lot of time to search for those scans...
 
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Not to mention he can't perform any other jutsu while he is performing Tsukuyomi. He would be remaining still. So either kakashi or Sakura could end the fight right there. Using Tsukuyomi would be a mistake on Itachi's part as it leaves him vulnerable to the 2nd person's attack.

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please continue to argue against the manga... as I said Tsukyomi was never used.. Stop following the anime
 

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my nets acting up so ill respond to this later.
@sachidinand: it isnt stated in any of your links that itachi knew about kamui, you are merely speculating that he may have.
@mellanoma: ok if he couldve used MS genjutsu he would have. Fact is you overrate tsukuyomi blindly. You think itachi wanted to waste his chakra on a genjutsu that would affect only a clone? No, itachi was duped into wasting his chakra casting an illusion on a clone, a feint which there is no reason at all why wouldnt fool him even if he had the MS. Kabuto with scolera was invincible to itachis tsukuyomi, anyone who avoids eye contact is in fact. The manga even stated that the sharingan can detect chakra, but its insight powers are inferior yo the byakugan. And as the byakugan cant tell a clone from the original, neither can itachi.
shadow clones>>eye contact genjutsus.
 

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my nets acting up so ill respond to this later.
@sachidinand: it isnt stated in any of your links that itachi knew about kamui, you are merely speculating that he may have.
@mellanoma: ok if he couldve used MS genjutsu he would have. Fact is you overrate tsukuyomi blindly. You think itachi wanted to waste his chakra on a genjutsu that would affect only a clone? No, itachi was duped into wasting his chakra casting an illusion on a clone, a feint which there is no reason at all why wouldnt fool him even if he had the MS. Kabuto with scolera was invincible to itachis tsukuyomi, anyone who avoids eye contact is in fact. The manga even stated that the sharingan can detect chakra, but its insight powers are inferior yo the byakugan. And as the byakugan cant tell a clone from the original, neither can itachi.
shadow clones>>eye contact genjutsus.
the point im making is why do people constantly bring up a fight where 30% handicap and unable to use your abilities determine a fight.
 

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Healthy Itachi ? Then Itachi takes this .

But I can't see the counter of Kamui .... I am confused now ...
Maybe because kakashi could actually win this time around?
the point im making is why do people constantly bring up a fight where 30% handicap and unable to use your abilities determine a fight.
Ok, so then ill ignore itachis 30% power handicaps iif you ignore his 30% power feats, such as finger genjutsu as well.
You cant cherry pick is my point.
 
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