Sagemode's seemingly impenetrability

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I've notice that naruto during his training with pa, fell into a spiky stone unscathed.

So how come blacks rods can penetrate through sagemode?
 

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Because the rods are formed by the user's chakra. And you need incredible chakra to control the rinnegan.
 

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Hashirama was an edo, believe his body is weaker automatically (sage mode increases his defense but it still is weaker due to edo).Also those rods are stronger than the spikes Naruto fell onto. Rods countered an susanoo arrow and pierced 8 tails I believe.

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Forgot rods also pierced Naruto against Pein, but the rods are still stronger than the spikes Naruto fell onto.
 

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Because the rods are formed by the user's chakra. And you need incredible chakra to control the rinnegan.

I'm baffled...

I thought all rods came from the Gedo mazou?

Hashirama was an edo, believe his body is weaker automatically (sage mode increases his defense but it still is weaker due to edo).Also those rods are stronger than the spikes Naruto fell onto. Rods countered an susanoo arrow and pierced 8 tails I believe.

But why does it damage a sagemode user?

Didn't the frog say something relevant about not getting damage by pointy objects?

(Idk because I don't have my computer)
 
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Tf?

Where is your logic?

Rods obviously > rocks .. even in real life.

If you fall on rods it'll fk u up more than falling on rocks (but you'll still be fk'd up none the less).
 

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Check the entire chapter out. You'll find that Naruto's SM was drained dry by Preta Path.
He loses the circles underneath his eyes suggesting he is in SM which is why he was pierced through.
You'll note that prior in the battle, with his SM on, the rods had broke when it hit him.
 

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Check the entire chapter out. You'll find that Naruto's SM was drained dry by Preta Path.
He loses the circles underneath his eyes suggesting he is in SM which is why he was pierced through.
You'll note that prior in the battle, with his SM on, the rods had broke when it hit him.

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It's quite simple. The rods are more sharper than the rocks.
 

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Because its rinnegan and Gedo technique, thats mean it should be superior than sage mode.
 

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Rods are extremely hard remember they threw of a Amaterasu Susanoo arrow so im not surprised.
 

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Check the entire chapter out. You'll find that Naruto's SM was drained dry by Preta Path.
He loses the circles underneath his eyes suggesting he is in SM which is why he was pierced through.
You'll note that prior in the battle, with his SM on, the rods had broke when it hit him.

Sage mode Jiraiya



I already know about that naruto situation
 

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Because its rinnegan and Gedo technique, thats mean it should be superior than sage mode.

Are you sure about that?

Both Obito and naruto turned their TSB into black rods.

Then there is people like Sasuke and Black zestu

Rods are extremely hard remember they threw of a Amaterasu Susanoo arrow so im not surprised.

I thought it negated the ninjustu
 
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Are you sure about that?

Both Obito and naruto turned their TSB into black rods.

Then there is people like Sasuke and Black zestu

TSB is not Will materialization but Yin-Yang release that gained by having Rikudou Senjutsu. That is TSB rod not Black Rod.

Black Zetsu is Will materialization of Kaguya in the form of living being while Black Ŕod is not a living being but functioning the same as BZ.

And what about Sasuke?
 
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A. They're beyond rocks. B. It didn't work on SM Naruto until SM Naruto himself stabbed himself with it.(no clue how this works, makes about as much sense as how fictional characters can slice up metal objects with swords like they're butter)
 

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And if BZ a living Will materialization able to pierced Rikudou Madara body that contained much higher level of Sage power. Its easy to accept that Black rod can penetrated Naruto sage mode body.
 

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TSB is not Will materialization but Yin-Yang release that gained by having Rikudou Senjutsu. That is TSB rod not Black Rod.

Black Zetsu is Will materialization of Kaguya in the form of living being while Black Ŕod is not a living being but functioning the same as BZ.

And what about Sasuke?

He's a rinnegan user that doesn't have the ability to produce black rods.

Jiraiya got rammed through a pipe line through animal path (bull) and came out unscathed, so why is this rod capable of damaging a sage user?

A simple will means nothing really.

This rod "GG poked," the great frog sage mode user Pa(jiraiya's mentor) to death.

Databook fan translation calls the black rods rinnegan trademark for six sun red yang seal formation, yet it was clearly made from a TSB Obito had and two people were able to use these rods without the rinnegan.
 

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He's a rinnegan user that doesn't have the ability to produce black rods.

Jiraiya got rammed through a pipe line through animal path (bull) and came out unscathed, so why is this rod capable of damaging a sage user?

A simple will means nothing really.

This rod "GG poked," the great frog sage mode user Pa(jiraiya's mentor) to death.

Databook fan translation calls the black rods rinnegan trademark for six sun red yang seal formation, yet it was clearly made from a TSB Obito had and two people were able to use these rods without the rinnegan.
Naruto can used TSB rod because of having Rikudou senjutsu, Juubito can used TSB rod because being a Juubi jin.

But still according the Manga fact Rinnegan user without Rikudou Senjutsu cant used TSB Rod unless they stole some Rikudou Senjutsu power from Juubi jin(Exp post JJ Obito)

At the scan Indra gave us, Naruto attacking that black rod, thats mean he applying some force on that Black rod. Because that he can broke it. But it never shown that Naruto in sage mode tanked that rod bare body.

And for Will materialization aka Black Rod, it not just contained user Will but other power from Rinnegan or Mazo also. Because that it can tanked Amaterasu or pierced human body.
 
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