Sage Mode Naruto vs. 5 'Kage

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Tell me how does SM Naruto take on 7 Gates Gai or MS Kakashi? Please explain.
Don't need to. Kakashi already said that base Naruto surpassed him. Tsunade left the fight with Pain to him and said he had become stronger then Jariya.

If you want a better answer make two seperate threads for Might Guy and Kakashi.

This isn't the thread for a SM Naruto vs. Kakashi or Guy.
 
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Except he had an army and the Hachibi help him with the 3rd Raikage and The village's help with Pein.
The army did jack shit [Also that SM Naruto was just a clone]. Hachibi told him the story and the rest was all Naruto!
With PO6P Naruto instructed everyone not to interfere so I don't see how the VILLAGE helped him. Different Mangas perhaps :rolleyes:
 

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that's kinda abc logic. he would be able to beat some of them 1v1, but 5 kages v 1 ? nop
He can beat everyone in 1 on 1 U_U.

If you look at his abilities and the fact that he can make 3 clones + [2 Backup clones as in Pain arc {if given}] + 3 Gaint toads + Ma,Pa and their Genjutsu its more than enough to SOLO the 5 kages
 

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He can beat everyone in 1 on 1 U_U.

If you look at his abilities and the fact that he can make 3 clones + [2 Backup clones as in Pain arc {if given}] + 3 Gaint toads + Ma,Pa and their Genjutsu its more than enough to SOLO the 5 kages
He didn't summon the toads, ergo he didn't expend chakra to bring them there. The only things he used chakra for was taijutsu and FRS. Ma summoned all of the toads. And Pa summoned a clone that he made before which means he had time to build up chakra in those clones before beginning the fight. That is different that creating a clone mid-fight.
 

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I would just like to throw in that Tsunade said Naruto in Sage Mode has surpassed Jariya and Minato. Don't ask me how he would counter the FTG, that just what she said. So she seems to think he could fight a Kage one on one.
 

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I would just like to throw in that Tsunade said Naruto in Sage Mode has surpassed Jariya and Minato. Don't ask me how he would counter the FTG, that just what she said. So she seems to think he could fight a Kage one on one.
Well, Naruto also had the Kyuubi's power to draw from in that statement. However we've completely taken Kurama out of this equation.
 

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Well, Naruto also had the Kyuubi's power to draw from in that statement. However we've completely taken Kurama out of this equation.
Tsunade didn't say anything like that. He couldn't control it back then and doesn't use the 9 tails power in Sage Mode Anyway, except when Pain shot him with a control rod, and when Hinata was injured. She was reffurring to base Sage Mode Naruto.
 
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I would just like to throw in that Tsunade said Naruto in Sage Mode has surpassed Jariya and Minato. Don't ask me how he would counter the FTG, that just what she said. So she seems to think he could fight a Kage one on one.
As far as I know, in that case, Fukasaku said, not Tsunade.

Tsunade said that he is very similar to his father in the War Arc.
 

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As far as I know, in that case, Fukasaku said, not Tsunade.

Tsunade said that he is very similar to his father in the War Arc.
She did right before he had his fight with Pain. When she gave him the slug after Naruto destroyed the first Pain. She also said that he was becoming more powerful than Jariya by learning Sage Mode when she yelled at the Two Elders. That was the whole reason they sent him to learn Sage Mode.
 

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She did right before he had his fight with Pain. When she gave him the slug after Naruto destroyed the first Pain. She also said that he was becoming more powerful than Jariya by learning Sage Mode when she yelled at the Two Elders. That was the whole reason they sent him to learn Sage Mode.
It was Fukasaku.

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Well my point remains the same. Thats the official word of the Manga.
Still, the whole battle with Pein he had help from everyone.
The valid idea of the manga is team-work.
The Kyuubi mode Naruto can take kages (though Onoiki's Jinton is kinda OP) but the Sage Mode it's not.
Let's not underrate but let's not overrate either.
 

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Still, the whole battle with Pein he had help from everyone.
The valid idea of the manga is team-work.
The Kyuubi mode Naruto can take kages (though Onoiki's Jinton is kinda OP) but the Sage Mode it's not.
Let's not underrate but let's not overrate either.
I still believe that his power is in the same ball park as a low Kage, but I do agree that he had help when he fought Pain.

I would say Sage Mode puts him in the same league as MS Sasuke, who couldn't beat the 5 Kage's but was able to defeat Danzo.
 
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