Sage Mode Jiraiya vs Itachi

Who wins?

  • Jiraiya

    Votes: 17 44.7%
  • Itachi

    Votes: 21 55.3%

  • Total voters
    38
  • Poll closed .

Cpt Long Schlong

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I linked everything to back up my arguments. When will you finally stop whining and prove otherwise with mangafacts? Because the only one trolling here is you since none of your posts are even contributive

Bogard you do make me laugh a lot, I stopped trying (and hopefully most other people) long ago, no matter how much "mangafact" people bring against you and how glaringly obvious it becomes, you never stop arguing for Minato, or against the Uchiha, it's actually quite sad.

Obviously your reply will be "noob get mangafacts counter me bro", but it's been done a thousand times over and you haven't ever realized you've been wrong once, so the odds of it happening today are slim to none
 

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Kabuto wasn't able to break out of it because he wasn't getting sage chakra. The frogs on Jiraiya's shoulders gather sage chakra if they feel like it, which should be enough to disturb the genjutsu. If that fails, they can simply smack him.
I assume you don't read the manga. Jugo's cells allow him to continuously intake Sage Chakra, or did you just ignore that part of my post..That's why Kabuto didn't need to stay still to enter Sage Mode. Due to Jugo's cells.


Hype. By Hype Jiraiya is stronger than Itachi, said by Itachi himself, with the mention that Itachi didn't know that Jiraiya was a sage.

Jiraiya knows what Amaterasu is and how it works. His speed in SM was damn fast.

Itachi didn't want to fight someone from the village he was trying to protect, this should be obvious by now.

Ok, Jiraiya's fast? So what? Still not fast enough to dodge Amaterasu. Since when did he know how it worked anyway? All he knows is that it is a black flame that burns through a lot of things very quickly. He doesn't know that it comes from his eye.



Sasuke used Tsukuyomi on Bee. Hachibi broke him out of it. It's now obvious you can get out of it.

Yes, Sasuke's Tsukuyomi is way inferior, but Jiraiya not only has the ''spiritual'' tool to get out of it ( chakra flow ), he also has the two sage toads that can smack him. That's 2 methods of getting out.

Tsukuyomi finishes in 1 second, obviously not enough time to use the partner method.

@bold: Itachi's Tsukuyomi is different from Sasuke's. Again, this should be obvious. Only Sasuke can break Itachi's Tsukuyomi. Jiraiya is not Sasuke so he can't break it. Arguing any further is basically arguing with the manga.
 

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Your post has more flaws than the filler episode of Deva fighting Kyuubi. As expected from a Minato lover hating Uchihas.

I agree
 

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According to Bogard, the techniques of the Mangekyou Sharingan will be countered by the usage of Kagebunshin. Itachi however makes also use of Kaegbunshin. According to him, Jiraiya has superior speed and possesses sensing abilities, what is in Jiraiyas case unproven. He was talking about something that Amaterasu is a close range Ninjutsu that travels and Tsukuyomi needs concentration before it affects, what is a benefit for Jiraiya. No, that is too much of trolling.

This show is calling - Bogard & Co, don't take them seriously because the only reason they are here is to start a flame war, one member of this company said that himself so that's it.
 

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Ok, Jiraiya's fast? So what? Still not fast enough to dodge Amaterasu.

Says who? Amaterasu only hit a samurai and the Hachibi in the whole show. What speed feats does it have? almost catching Ay?
 

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equal chances imo. Jiraiya uses kagbunshin combined with toad shadow manipulation. a lot- which makes the use of genjutsu, esp Tsukuyomi very risky, and also amaterasu (which he can also avoid, sense and seal). shima has that dust tech +smokebombs which are perfect against an uchiha. the toads can break him out of genjutsu, and jiraiya can counter susanoo with swamp of the underworld, goemon, and frog song as well. and jiraiya's speed was fast enough to make the rinnegan link useless and blind a pain with a kick btw, which makes it probable that he has the speed advantage.


both have a good chance of winning. it all depends on whether jiraiya can foil itachi with his strategies (which kakashi has already pulled off on itachi btw), and whether itachi can make his best attacks count.

btw, amaterasu takes time to use and can be sensed, it's proven over and over. Sasuke actually stopped Itachi from using it in their fight when they were in the room, Ay had time to prepare for it, Nagato knew it was coming and so did Kabuto.
 

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equal chances imo. Jiraiya uses kagbunshin combined with toad shadow manipulation. a lot- which makes the use of genjutsu, esp Tsukuyomi very risky, and also amaterasu (which he can also avoid, sense and seal). shima has that dust tech +smokebombs which are perfect against an uchiha. the toads can break him out of genjutsu, and jiraiya can counter susanoo with swamp of the underworld, goemon, and frog song as well. and jiraiya's speed was fast enough to make the rinnegan link useless and blind a pain with a kick btw, which makes it probable that he has the speed advantage.


both have a good chance of winning. it all depends on whether jiraiya can foil itachi with his strategies (which kakashi has already pulled off on itachi btw), and whether itachi can make his best attacks count.

btw, amaterasu takes time to use and can be sensed, it's proven over and over. Sasuke actually stopped Itachi from using it in their fight when they were in the room, Ay had time to prepare for it, Nagato knew it was coming and so did Kabuto.

Nice strategy, Unfortunately in no way whatsoever is that Jiraya's fighting style.. he doesn't use kage bunshins, they take 50% chakra , so ninjas dont use them alot.... I dont even think he ever used them while fighting.... And you're assuming he'll even think of something like that..

Amaterasu doesnt take "time" a second is all it takes or a little more.. Sasuke used amaterasu on the muki tensei as a defence in seconds before sage mode kabuto could make a few steps toward them

Jiraya has no knowledge of amaterasu, He wont sense it because he's imperfect and doesnt have sensing capabilities... He isn't a known sensor either, so he will not pick up on any change in atmosphere etc..


I have already explained that kick... Nagato was unaware of what sm jiraya's speed was like, he didn't see it coming.. thus the "Very nice" after.. this is the reason none of the pains got speed blitzed afterwards in the same fashion..

Nothing Jiraya has shown puts him near the speed feats of what Itachi has shown p1 and p2
 

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Jiraya has no knowledge of amaterasu, He wont sense it because he's imperfect and doesnt have sensing capabilities... He isn't a known sensor either, so he will not pick up on any change in atmosphere etc..

Not only did Jiraiya see the flames when Itachi burned his frog eso ****us but he also sealed them very, very easily.

For all we know he could do the same, since Sage Mode greatly enhances your body's strength to the point where Naruto doesn't suffer any damage from using Fuuton:Rasenshuriken 4 times in around 20 minutes, and that shi t hurts on a molecular level.
 

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Jariya loses fairly quickly. He is not a sensor amongst he likes of Kabuto, henceforth he won't see Amaterasu or Tsukyuomi coming. If he avoids the eyes, Itachi can simply cast a powerful genjutsu with his finger. There is no escaping Itachi's genjutsus. Any mind-shield is pure rubbish, because there isn't a single manga scan to back it up. Once hit, Sasuke is the only one who can break free of it, no one else. His other skills aren't even needed here.

Your post has more flaws than the filler episode of Deva fighting Kyuubi. As expected from a Minato lover hating Uchihas.

I stopped taking this guy seriously a LONG time ago. You are obviously wasting your time. The second anyone brings the argument of 'distance and travel' into Amaterasu argument, is the second that person should be avioded at all costs. You don't get any foolishly deluded than this. When this scan: - slaps on the face of this whole argument.
 

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Says who? Amaterasu only hit a samurai and the Hachibi in the whole show. What speed feats does it have? almost catching Ay?

.Amaterasu appears directly where the user is looking it doesn't need speed since barely anyone can dodge it when it appears right on you, the only way to escape it is to escape the Sharingan's vision like A did. Jiraiya has not shown speed feats that allow anyone to believe he can dodge Amaterasu.
 
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As for hype, that, too, could work against Jiriaya.

If Itachi truly believes what he said, then he'll use his big guns hard and fast (as he did with Nagato.)

Whereas if Jiraiya doesn't have the same respect for Itachi, and lacks knowledge, will be unprepared to deal with them.

Sage Jiraiya can beat Itachi in a forest sort of environment with a good distance between them.

With lots of hiding places for guerilla tactics.

But in the open-ness of a crater, Itach's superior firepower will dominate imo.

Genjutsu won't be any use against Kiraya cause of the 2 frogs sages on his shoulders could snap him out of it.
 

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What he is saying is true. Tsukuyomi takes 1 second in real life and 72 hours in the other.

However, there is no proof that Jiraiya's mind is weaker than Kakashi's and Sage Mode should help ease the pain of it.

Also, there are ways to avoid it.

It's Jiraiya. He won't go down as easy as Kakashi.
 

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Jiraiya can seal Amaterasu.

Anything else?

Before it burns him to a crisp? Nope. The fact you even suggested this shows that you obviously don't know what you're talking about. Only a true Jiraiya fanboy would believe he wins this match.
 
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Before it burns him to a crisp? Nope. The fact you even suggested this shows that you obviously don't know what you're talking about. Only a true Jiraiya fanboy would believe he wins this match.

Anything else troll?

Sage Mode makes him more durable. The fire won't burn him as fast as it did Danzo. He also has knowledge of it so he will keep the sealing scroll handy.

What else?
 

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Sage Mode makes him more durable. The fire won't burn him as fast as it did Danzo. He also has knowledge of it so he will keep the sealing scroll handy.

What else?

Durability does not equal resistant to flames. Try Again. The Flame will incinerate him. If Jiraiya's whole body is on fire his scroll will catch on fire also anyway.

When he is busy attempting to seal Amaterasu (Which won't happen since the first shot will light him up) All he needs to do is fire off another one.

See why this is a retarded tactic and why you never should have brought it up? Jiraiya fanboys...
 

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jiraiya = sick and dying itachi who fought sasuke

healthy itachi >> jiraiya
 

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Jariya will start sealing while he is on fire? I think he will be too busy rolling about and screaming for his dear life.
 
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