RSM = Rinnegan/sharingan is it fair?

[Holy God]

To me...

Six Paths Sage Mode : USA, fire power, Guns, can access to unlimited chakra.

Rinnegan: Japan, the most skilled, Knifes, can access to unlimited jutsu.

The most fire power the Six Paths Sage Mode has to offer though is Truth-Seeking Spheres, which won't do much damage if not a direct hit.

 

[Mikeuhsomething36]

Well think of it this way, you saw the amount of damage pein did right? And that wasn't even full nagato, and Edo nagato negged both Naruto and killer bee simultaneously and edos aren't even as strong as when they're alive, and only the original weilder can utilize the eyes to it's maximum power as you saw with Madara and he wasn't even using both eyes and you saw how destructive he was and sasuke is even above that so let that sink in. Not only that Sasuke retains his sharnningans abilities but they are boosted such as sharnningan genjutsu into rinnegan:genjutsu, so his perception skills are off the charts, when he adjusted to the eyes, everyone's name who wasn't Naruto was at his mercy and even then his eyes were still new so he couldn't use it to it's full potential. If Sasuke mastered the rinnegan that would put him on equal footing if not above Naruto.


The rinnegan does grant augmented strength via asura path and rinnegan enhanced susano, speed? Amenojikara is instant though and not even Naruto or madara could react in time to it, regeneration? Preta path much? Reflexes? Dude, Sasuke's rinnegan retains his sharnningan abilities to the highest degree meaning he can see a persons muscle tension even by the slightest movement and that's just basic three Tomoe, this is rinnegan we are talking about. Nit only that the rinnegan grants a plethora of other abilities, such as control over the soul via human path, chakra rods, gedo mazou, shinta tensei, tengai tensei (meteor), etc etc. The rinnegan grants Sasuke an infinite amount of potential. So RSM being equal seems about right.

 

[Nagi]

The most fire power the Six Paths Sage Mode has to offer though is Truth-Seeking Spheres, which won't do much damage if not a direct hit.

That truth-seeking spheres can destroy the size of a forest. Don't forget the ability to gather enough nature energy to create a spirit bomb. Naruto had yet to shown a limit to how much he can absorb.

 

[Gerkak]

umm Rinnegan allow you to use any jutsu. So access to unlimited jutsu.

Well technically so does RSM since it was said to grant an unconscious comprehension of all things in creation

The most fire power the Six Paths Sage Mode has to offer though is Truth-Seeking Spheres, which won't do much damage if not a direct hit.

That goes for most offensive jutsu

 

[SenseiSama]

rsm>>>>>> rinnegan

RSM + Kurama = 2 paths + Susanoo ..

Basically the guy with the full arsenal couldn't beat the guy with only 3 weapons he recently acquired. Rinnegan > RSM

Who ever said RSM=Rinnegan. Especially when Perfect Sage mode> Rinnegan.

That fanfic tho, experience with Rinnegan/EMS >> Perfect Sage Mode

God no. Only when you have Juubi level chakra reserves already.

Nagato is about the best a Base Rinnegan can be.

Sasuke is the superior user even surprising Hagoromo who was considered the best user. Comparing his skill to Nagato's is like comparing Jiraiya's skill with Sage Mode to Naruto's.

The fact that Sasuke is a transmigrant alone is enough to prove he's the better user. Did you ever see Nagato absorb Kurama's chakra like Sasuke ? Nope. I also recall his Bansho Tenin failing against 7T Kurama mode which isn't the same as a full bijuu

And there's a difference between skill and jutsu on Juubi steroids, if Sasuke were to gain RSM his Ameno would evolve into Kaguya's. The Rinnegan/Sharingan combo has more potential than RSM in which TSB seems to be the limit.

 

[Holy God]

That truth-seeking spheres can destroy the size of a forest. Don't forget the ability to gather enough nature energy to create a spirit bomb. Naruto had yet to shown a limit to how much he can absorb.

The DataBook does say that, but I doubt it can, at least the forest I have in mind. I'd have to have a visual or actual number to determine if it sounded realistic. I'd say if it expanded a good size (a bit larger than Tailed Beast Bomb Rasenshuriken) it could destroy the six or so buildings under the main office and above the large blue building on the right.

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[UchihasRightfulHeir]

Well technically so does RSM since it was said to grant an unconscious comprehension of all things in creation



That goes for most offensive jutsu

Chakra not all things in creation. That does not grant him access to all jitsu.

 

[Nagi]

Well think of it this way, you saw the amount of damage pein did right? And that wasn't even full nagato, and Edo nagato negged both Naruto and killer bee simultaneously and edos aren't even as strong as when they're alive, and only the original weilder can utilize the eyes to it's maximum power as you saw with Madara and he wasn't even using both eyes and you saw how destructive he was and sasuke is even above that so let that sink in. Not only that Sasuke retains his sharnningans abilities but they are boosted such as sharnningan genjutsu into rinnegan:genjutsu, so his perception skills are off the charts, when he adjusted to the eyes, everyone's name who wasn't Naruto was at his mercy and even then his eyes were still new so he couldn't use it to it's full potential. If Sasuke mastered the rinnegan that would put him on equal footing if not above Naruto.


The rinnegan does grant augmented strength via asura path and rinnegan enhanced susano, speed? Amenojikara is instant though and not even Naruto or madara could react in time to it, regeneration? Preta path much? Reflexes? Dude, Sasuke's rinnegan retains his sharnningan abilities to the highest degree meaning he can see a persons muscle tension even by the slightest movement and that's just basic three Tomoe, this is rinnegan we are talking about. Nit only that the rinnegan grants a plethora of other abilities, such as control over the soul via human path, chakra rods, gedo mazou, shinta tensei, tengai tensei (meteor), etc etc. The rinnegan grants Sasuke an infinite amount of potential. So RSM being equal seems about right.

let say there wasn't any tail beasts around in that last fight. Naruto decided to gather all the nature energy around him and prepare his strongest attack. How would Sasuke(fully mastered rinnegan) counter it? He can't absorb that volume of chakra that Naruto had put into his strongest attack. How would Sasuke match that? ......I can think of one way. I can think of one way of Sasuke countering it. But can you?

 

[Gerkak]

Chakra not all things in creation. That does not grant him access to all jitsu.

a gift from the ancestor of shinobi that grants a supernatural mental state allowing for the complete, universal comprehension of all things.

The above is from the DB itself, it says all things in other translations it says all of creation.

The rinnegan doesn't grant access to all jutsu either, only basic element jutsu and yin-yang release. Just like with the rinnegan, users of RSM can learn almost any jutsu they want

 

[LogicnoJutsu]

Who ever said RSM=Rinnegan. Especially when Perfect Sage mode> Rinnegan.

Perfect Sage Mode> Transplanted Rinnegan dead bodies.

Rinnegan > Everything canonically, The Sages body is powerful but his Eyes are what gives him his edge.

Sasuke could have literally stayed in Ashura mode during Narutos final attack and gained another power-up.

Thats all RSM is a massive pool of Tailed beast and Sage chakra. Naruto would have to rely on not using it to counter Rinnegan.

 

[Gagster]

Perfect Sage Mode> Transplanted Rinnegan dead bodies.

Rinnegan > Everything canonically, The Sages body is powerful but his Eyes are what gives him his edge.

Sasuke could have literally stayed in Ashura mode during Narutos final attack and gained another power-up.

Thats all RSM is a massive pool of Tailed beast and Sage chakra. Naruto would have to rely on not using it to counter Rinnegan.

lol, no. Rinnegan Madara gets shit on my RSM Naruto. No-one with just the rinnegan can compete with a RSM user.

Hence why Madara needed IT and the Sharinegan, and Sasuke all of the Biju.

 

[Styles]

SO6P had Rinnegan and RSM Naruto have RSM and Sasuke have sharingan/Rinnegan and Naruto = Sasuke. :bdpf:. Then again people only knew the sage because of Rinnegan which was said to be a myth.

 

[take it easy]

Nope. RSM can do everything than Rinnegan/Rinnesharingan user can and more.

 

[Heisenberg Wannabe]

Think of it like this..

In base
Naruto is weak.
Sasuke is strong.

RSM makes Naruto strong.
Rinnegan/Sharingan makes Sasuke stronger.

So it is only fair that Naruto gets a better power-up to be close to Sasuke. Even then he is inferior as he admitted in the manga but that still makes him powerful enough to give Sasuke a bit challange

 

[Lightning Release]

RSM solos everything lol

 

[IPulseZz]

Rinnegan said to provide infinite potential...plus everything we know about it is op af imagine the stuff we don't...

IMO yes...

 

[9tailsJinchuuriki]

Even if you say that the rinnesharingan gives you a lot of powerful abilities, doesn't mean the user can spam it limitlessly. People are under the impression that since the user has Preta Path, the person won't have to worry about chakra levels, but you can only absorb chakra if you get the chance to. No one is stupid to use ninjutsu carelessly against someone that absorbs it (Naruto did against Nagato, but he improved during the war and learned to study his opponents more before attacking). Even Naruto only countered Sasuke's attacks and only got his chakra absorbed when he was extremely exhausted and close to Sasuke.

Another counter for rinnegan is taijutsu, but the Sharingan is a great way to counter that weakness, but if you learn frog kata you can fight your opponents without touching them and they won't be able to see your attacks.

 

[9tailsJinchuuriki]

Also, because Madara displayed powerful techniques with his rinnegan and Oro said Sasuke will surpass Madara, people forgot that Madara was an edo when he first used his rinnegan. That means he had unlimited chakra and could spam powerful techniques as many times as he wanted. Then he became a JJ, which meant that his chakra levels were massive. So people now thought that Sasuke would be on the same level as Madara with unlimited amounts of chakra :|

Sasuke's techniques might be more powerful, but that doesn't mean he can spam techniques. He needed the bijuu chakra to match RSM Naruto, but some think that it was because he didn't master his rinnegan. Yes, he was new to the rinnegan, but even with a mastered rinnegan, he won't be able to use techniques in succession.

 

[Styles]

Also, because Madara displayed powerful techniques with his rinnegan and Oro said Sasuke will surpass Madara, people forgot that Madara was an edo when he first used his rinnegan. That means he had unlimited chakra and could spam powerful techniques as many times as he wanted. Then he became a JJ, which meant that his chakra levels were massive. So people now thought that Sasuke would be on the same level as Madara with unlimited amounts of chakra :|

Sasuke's techniques might be more powerful, but that doesn't mean he can spam techniques. He needed the bijuu chakra to match RSM Naruto, but some think that it was because he didn't master his rinnegan. Yes, he was new to the rinnegan, but even with a mastered rinnegan, he won't be able to use techniques in succession.

He was actually stalemating Naruto before the Bijuu's chakra he only took it to stop stalemating and kill Naruto. Also Sasuke was low on chakra himself since he came to the war he's been using MS/EMS jutsu's left and right and more. He's been spamming PS nearly the whole time too so chakra isn't a problem for him from what the manga show.

 

[AlphaMaleLion]

Rinnegan/sharingan > RSM? plzzz. Give a RSM user the same mind set as kakashi, Itachi or Madara, that user will shit on anybody.

Didnt you knew that Madara had both RSM and Rinnegan?

OT: RSM and Rinnegan are both on the same level