There was just like 4/5(?) trial senpai were approved recently. It is also for the sensei to decide if they want a senpai or not, they don't have to.
And, if that ever went through, I would never have more then one senpai at a time.
[Question] Role-play going down hill?
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And, if that ever went through, I would never have more then one senpai at a time.
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more senpais would help but why wouldnt you take another under your wing?
Even then im not just talking about the offical naruto rp section, which you all i ..... even the tavens and the other roleplays that were around have all died out as well..... there is nothing here just a barron area
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May I ask why not? Is it because you have to keep track of them all and their progress?
It is partially because many of us have gotten older and have other responsibilities now. A ton of the 'fun' people were from 2008-2012 who rp'd officially and unofficially but each group eventually moves on for the most part. I imagine most of them have graduated primary or secondary school and now are working/in relationships or whatnot. It is a different crowd now so to speak. It may get better again soon. There have been quite a few dry eras on here. Be patient and hope that more people find time to step up if possible, but don't give up otherwise the rp will die if people stop trying.
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Pretty much, and what a senpai does, reflects their sensei. So if I were to have 5 senpai, it would be a bit difficult to keep track of their training, whilst also making sure they are being good around the forum too and not breaking rules.
OT: The RP has changed a lot since back in the day, not only has the RP changed in various ways like becoming more complex, but there are far more people on the forum itself. That means each sensei has at least 20+ students, and to accept even more would mean that I start putting in less effort in each training thread and later burn out because I have no fun. That's usually the problem with accepting many students. I have an application thread that I open at random, if you subscribe to it, then it's your luck if you score a spot. I reply with 1-3 days because I have my limit xD
Other than that, yes, there is a small drop in activity overall but that doesn't mean the RP is dying per se. Just my two cents
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Oh ok, thanks for explainingPretty much, and what a senpai does, reflects their sensei. So if I were to have 5 senpai, it would be a bit difficult to keep track of their training, whilst also making sure they are being good around the forum too and not breaking rules.
OT: The RP has changed a lot since back in the day, not only has the RP changed in various ways like becoming more complex, but there are far more people on the forum itself. That means each sensei has at least 20+ students, and to accept even more would mean that I start putting in less effort in each training thread and later burn out because I have no fun. That's usually the problem with accepting many students. I have an application thread that I open at random, if you subscribe to it, then it's your luck if you score a spot. I reply with 1-3 days because I have my limit xD
Other than that, yes, there is a small drop in activity overall but that doesn't mean the RP is dying per se. Just my two cents
The RP has evolved a lot from the time I started back in 2008 not just in its appearance but in its functionality. Back then it was easier to manage because of the small group of people. Many mistakes were allowed because it was growing and people understood it. But like with everything in the world, it had to change. The community got bigger and so the rules had to change as well. Somethings that were allowed back then are no longer allowed now. This was in order to make it fair for everyone. The only thing I can advise you to do, is remember the old concepts that you saw worked and try to pass them on to the new generation through leadership. I know several senseis like Jokey who embody the old spirit of the rp. RPing with him brought back a lot of memories and something I one day want to pass on. Just keep in mind, it takes patience and a tough skin. I think that the once active people have now busy lives but do all they can to put in time here to keep it going. We all need to do our part and it starts with setting the example.
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I reply to my students every hour day. I'll agree, from my point of view, sometimes training gets a little monotonous and boring after some time, so the reply speed varies. What I've learnt is that, people here are active in summer break and until Sept, after which the activity drops again. A lot of RP'ers are still on this site, including me, not because of the manga. The manga discussion section is a cesspool of mess. We're here, because of the RP solely. Sometimes, RL gets a mess and then you see mods being inactive. And then there are exams, etc. With age, you get less and less free time, so all those who started the RP in 2008/09, don't have much time now. Most of the oldies have quit because of the newer strict rules, which do exist for limiting 300/400 people from becoming super OP.
I have mixed views on this...
I mean.. Lilly is quite right when it comes to the fact that the RP section is dying and how few years ago the Rp used to be so lively and senseis used to train so many students everyday with replies coming in faster than you would expect...
But at the same tine Nathan is also right...
Senseis also have lives and many might take time to reply because they have a lot going on...
but i still think its quite absurd... that untill now i wanted to rp but almost all senseis are occupied and dont reply to me when it comes to teaching me..
to be honest i dont think some deserve that orange username either... just because they passed a test by fighting another rp mod. sensei and the sensei thinks he can handle all jutsus well doesnt mean he/she will become a good SENSEI
a good sensei should also attend to the needs of new rpers and his/her students at a regular basis..
i'm not trying to offend senseis.. or defame them by calling them unworthy.. i'm quite aware that they do have lives and are interested in RP but i'v been searching for senseis for more than a month now and i dont seem to find any application thread open, and i'v also asked quite a few people on available senseis, and the answer is always a blunt "IDK", iv tried approaching senseis asking them to train me... and guess what? they dont even reply... and i dont even spam their vm walls or annoy them, i patiently wait for a reply that never comes in...
Nathan is right, but NB's RP section and its members aren't so active anymore and its sad because it used to be the centre of attraction for everyone and as well as a very ACTIVE section in NB twhere you could expect replies in the same hour...
no doubt something has to be done about it...
especially in modifications in sensei tests..
I mean.. Lilly is quite right when it comes to the fact that the RP section is dying and how few years ago the Rp used to be so lively and senseis used to train so many students everyday with replies coming in faster than you would expect...
But at the same tine Nathan is also right...
Senseis also have lives and many might take time to reply because they have a lot going on...
but i still think its quite absurd... that untill now i wanted to rp but almost all senseis are occupied and dont reply to me when it comes to teaching me..
to be honest i dont think some deserve that orange username either... just because they passed a test by fighting another rp mod. sensei and the sensei thinks he can handle all jutsus well doesnt mean he/she will become a good SENSEI
a good sensei should also attend to the needs of new rpers and his/her students at a regular basis..
i'm not trying to offend senseis.. or defame them by calling them unworthy.. i'm quite aware that they do have lives and are interested in RP but i'v been searching for senseis for more than a month now and i dont seem to find any application thread open, and i'v also asked quite a few people on available senseis, and the answer is always a blunt "IDK", iv tried approaching senseis asking them to train me... and guess what? they dont even reply... and i dont even spam their vm walls or annoy them, i patiently wait for a reply that never comes in...
Nathan is right, but NB's RP section and its members aren't so active anymore and its sad because it used to be the centre of attraction for everyone and as well as a very ACTIVE section in NB twhere you could expect replies in the same hour...
no doubt something has to be done about it...
especially in modifications in sensei tests..
Sadly this thread will not change anything it will eventually end up being closed by a staff member closing with a long paragraph. That's the bitter truth! If you're in dire need of training I might be free in some weeks and can take you.
RP is sure to loose steam once the main fuel that kept it burning has disappeared. This is bound to happen sooner or latter. That is the reason I have been of the opinion that development of RP based on some other show should be considered.
And btw nathan whats up with this,
And btw nathan whats up with this,
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Probably cuz a few years ago, there were far less people. We have more than 100,000 members, and many of that number are in the RP. Not to mention people are busy. The problem isn't pacing, they just need to give us more shit to do. RP Events, tournaments, something.
I guess I will add in my 2 cents. As a somewhat new rper of the 2014 generation I don't have a problem with the senseis. Its up to you the trainee to go to them. People like Moofy got a bunch of teachers for different areas as soon as he joined. These last two months I myself got many teachers. Ushiro was taking a crap load of people to for awhile. Basically anybody who followed his template correctly got training. My teachers respond from anytime within the same hours to roughly 2 weeks. Most of the time I get 1-3 responses from each sensei/senpai per week. Personally my only problems with the RP at the moment is the time its taking to approve bios. When I first joined it took a week or so. Now the last two months were holiday season so, kudos for those who enjoyed their time. Now its still kind of too long. This length of time makes it hard for Rpers to make the transition into the Rp and pushes people away.
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As noted before, one thing I always forget is a majority of members are in school so activity tends to be less around this time of year, and picks up more during April-September. Same concerns are usually raised around this time.
I read it all. Keeping it open so that suggestions may flow to try and fix this decrease in activity. Rest assured, we also are very aware of it and are trying to work on ways to fix it. Tell us what you think would work to increase activity and keep the RP actively flowing.
We listen to all suggestions. We post our opinions on them. We close them when we feel there is nothing left to say or no valid point can be reached. Its our jobs to do that. Its called Moderation. We are Moderators. Next time, please, for the first time in your presence in this forum, think before you type.
Time for you to chill a bit away from NB. I warned you, as have multiple staff members, to tone the unwarranted and bashfull criticism down as well as to tone your overall attitude down. I suppose that since you cannot issue self control over it, I can enforce it.
We listen to all suggestions. We post our opinions on them. We close them when we feel there is nothing left to say or no valid point can be reached. Its our jobs to do that. Its called Moderation. We are Moderators. Next time, please, for the first time in your presence in this forum, think before you type.
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I'm a newcomer, and this is what I found about the RP so far:
1. Bios take quite a long time to approved. It would be somewhat fine, I am sure, if members already have bios and, thus aren't forbidden from participating in the RP. This can only be fixed by mods increasing their activity, or maybe prevent members from posting bios every month, making it 2 or 3 months before you can resubmit a bio. But for new members of the RPG, we don't have the luxury of rping with other bios, or old bios.
Suggestion: Make a separate section for 1st Bio submiters. This is for all the new rpers, old members or new members, that want to start participating. Only the very first bio can be posted here, so there shouldn't be that many people posting in this section, so mods could look at it with much more frequency. The bios are also relatively simple, they don't have much afterall, so I am sure more mods are qualified to do this particular task, not just the ones specialized in approving bios and bio rules. This could also allow one to make a different template for 1st Bios and other bios, since most people tweak the bio any way. I'll try to experience that for myself once I get to that point, but others might want to input their experiences to this particular suggestion ( Changing Template for New and Old bios )
2. There's plenty of stuff to do, though, even without a bio. I joined a village, and am getting all sorts of relationships flowing, I'm learning how to improve myself and what to do by simply talking about it with other people. I am limited to a very few sections of the RP, that do not include Trainings, Wait-Lists, Customs, Battle Arena and Ninja World, or any sort of official RP interaction, but I can still RP, since spars inside a village don't have a "Must Have an Approved Bio" rule enforced on them. I think, in this area, the RP is very well balanced. I haven't experienced training yet though. It might be useless, and if the suggestion above gets implemented, then it becomes completely irrelevant but:
Suggestion. Allow pending-approval bios to enter wait-lists. With this I mean apply for training and even get trained, despite not having an actual bio. I've seen a few training threads, and, excluding the really bad ones, the average training thread has RP down to a minimum, and it's very generic. Most trainings are for the member itself, not the character, so they RP with their personality, not their character's. If this is so, why not allow us to get training, decreasing the waiting time between having a bio and actually being able to stuff with it, at least in a Battle and Training sense, since you can just backpack across the world and meet other people after you have a bio (and I fully intend to do so). Training would give people a better place to increase their post count, without having to spam Forum Games and other sections, which is absurd and tedious to me. Which leads me to:
3. Posts don't feel earned. Sure there's the effort of actually having to post all these tedious messages, and doing it frequently enough. But they aren't meaningful to the RP, they're just numbers. I feel whenever I post in sections other than the RP, I'm just posting to increase a number, and not getting involved in the community.
Suggestion: I think, while it's all-right to keep the post count, alternative methods could also be added for something like booster-packs, where one does some sort of test or show some sort of skill, and is rewarded with certain boosts in their post count. Maybe after a really good battle, one could post the link in a thread, and a mod would rewards a certain amount of posts, which then an Admin adds mechanically to the member's post account. Reward people with meaningful numbers, instead of spam posts.
PS: I haven't experienced the Training System or the Battle System yet, so I can't suggest on those areas. But anyone feel free to complete my post or correct me in anything I might be wrong. Thanks for listening
1. Bios take quite a long time to approved. It would be somewhat fine, I am sure, if members already have bios and, thus aren't forbidden from participating in the RP. This can only be fixed by mods increasing their activity, or maybe prevent members from posting bios every month, making it 2 or 3 months before you can resubmit a bio. But for new members of the RPG, we don't have the luxury of rping with other bios, or old bios.
Suggestion: Make a separate section for 1st Bio submiters. This is for all the new rpers, old members or new members, that want to start participating. Only the very first bio can be posted here, so there shouldn't be that many people posting in this section, so mods could look at it with much more frequency. The bios are also relatively simple, they don't have much afterall, so I am sure more mods are qualified to do this particular task, not just the ones specialized in approving bios and bio rules. This could also allow one to make a different template for 1st Bios and other bios, since most people tweak the bio any way. I'll try to experience that for myself once I get to that point, but others might want to input their experiences to this particular suggestion ( Changing Template for New and Old bios )
2. There's plenty of stuff to do, though, even without a bio. I joined a village, and am getting all sorts of relationships flowing, I'm learning how to improve myself and what to do by simply talking about it with other people. I am limited to a very few sections of the RP, that do not include Trainings, Wait-Lists, Customs, Battle Arena and Ninja World, or any sort of official RP interaction, but I can still RP, since spars inside a village don't have a "Must Have an Approved Bio" rule enforced on them. I think, in this area, the RP is very well balanced. I haven't experienced training yet though. It might be useless, and if the suggestion above gets implemented, then it becomes completely irrelevant but:
Suggestion. Allow pending-approval bios to enter wait-lists. With this I mean apply for training and even get trained, despite not having an actual bio. I've seen a few training threads, and, excluding the really bad ones, the average training thread has RP down to a minimum, and it's very generic. Most trainings are for the member itself, not the character, so they RP with their personality, not their character's. If this is so, why not allow us to get training, decreasing the waiting time between having a bio and actually being able to stuff with it, at least in a Battle and Training sense, since you can just backpack across the world and meet other people after you have a bio (and I fully intend to do so). Training would give people a better place to increase their post count, without having to spam Forum Games and other sections, which is absurd and tedious to me. Which leads me to:
3. Posts don't feel earned. Sure there's the effort of actually having to post all these tedious messages, and doing it frequently enough. But they aren't meaningful to the RP, they're just numbers. I feel whenever I post in sections other than the RP, I'm just posting to increase a number, and not getting involved in the community.
Suggestion: I think, while it's all-right to keep the post count, alternative methods could also be added for something like booster-packs, where one does some sort of test or show some sort of skill, and is rewarded with certain boosts in their post count. Maybe after a really good battle, one could post the link in a thread, and a mod would rewards a certain amount of posts, which then an Admin adds mechanically to the member's post account. Reward people with meaningful numbers, instead of spam posts.
PS: I haven't experienced the Training System or the Battle System yet, so I can't suggest on those areas. But anyone feel free to complete my post or correct me in anything I might be wrong. Thanks for listening