Rinnegan's Weakness in comparison to Sharingan and Byakugan

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yes he repel madara's shar-rinnegan (completely different class) genjutsu by blocking the light from piercing through his susanoo. and madara is uneffected by the infinite tsukuyomi because he was the one who casted it. it's not the samething as repelling regular visual genjutsu. especially the fact it involves some kind of light. hmmm.. makes me wonder if it's time to make a new addition to genjutsu. one for sound, visual, touch? and now light.
It's not a sharrinnegan genjutsu is the point I'm making. It's just a rinnegan genjutsu.
The Juubi eye that was on Madara's forehead is the same one that Kaguya had on hear forehead and the same on God Tree.
Whatever doujutsu the user has on his eye sockets is the jutsu that is being broadcast through what people call the sharrinnegan:
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Obito didn't have a sharrinnegan and he was ready to cast a genjutsu with the same eye that Madara had on his forehead.
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It's not a sharrinnegan genjutsu is the point I'm making. It's just a rinnegan genjutsu.
The Juubi eye that was on Madara's forehead is the same one that Kaguya had on hear forehead and the same on God Tree.
Whatever doujutsu the user has on his eye sockets is the jutsu that is being broadcast through what people call the sharrinnegan:
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And when a user cast a genjutsu the doujutsu will appear on the victims eyes:
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Obito didn't have a sharrinnegan and he was ready to cast a genjutsu with the same eye that Madara had on his forehead.
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Yeah, i don't know what kishi was smoking. it shouldn't even show the "rinnegan" design on the victims. if anything it should be the sharingan since MS did the samething. but the databook4 clearly seperates the two as two different dojutsus. sasuke has rinnegan where as kaguya and madara (forehead) has the shar-rinnegan which directly seperates it as it's own class. therefore infinite tsukuyomi is a shar-rinnegan genjutsu not a rinnegan genjutsu
 

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Yeah, i don't know what kishi was smoking. it shouldn't even show the "rinnegan" design on the victims. if anything it should be the sharingan since MS did the samething. but the databook4 clearly seperates the two as two different dojutsus. sasuke has rinnegan where as kaguya and madara (forehead) has the shar-rinnegan which directly seperates it as it's own class. therefore infinite tsukuyomi is a shar-rinnegan genjutsu not a rinnegan genjutsu
I know that Kaguya was said to have that doujutsu but what did they say about Madara? Because they don't give Madara a kekkai mora. And Obito was gonna use that same eye for the genjutsu too but via God tree.
I'll get into the Sasuke rinnegan genjutsu thing later
 

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It's not a sharrinnegan genjutsu is the point I'm making. It's just a rinnegan genjutsu.
The Juubi eye that was on Madara's forehead is the same one that Kaguya had on hear forehead and the same on God Tree.
Whatever doujutsu the user has on his eye sockets is the jutsu that is being broadcast through what people call the sharrinnegan:
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And when a user cast a genjutsu the doujutsu will appear on the victims eyes:
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Obito didn't have a sharrinnegan and he was ready to cast a genjutsu with the same eye that Madara had on his forehead.
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yeah, it most likely showed rinnegan on the victims like how MS shows base sharingan on the victims. (even thou the shar-rinnegan should show the sharingan instead of rinnegan, but whatever) it's still two different classes sharr-rinnegan > rinnegan.
 

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yeah, it most likely showed rinnegan on the victims like how MS shows base sharingan on the victims. (even thou the shar-rinnegan should show the sharingan instead of rinnegan, but whatever) it's still two different classes sharr-rinnegan > rinnegan.
The bold part is exactly what I was meant/saying.
For me I feel like the juubi eye/god tree aka Kaguya's rinne-sharingan is used like a black receiver/chakra rods. They relay the chakra of the doujutsus eyes through the Rinne-sharingan/sharrinnegan.
That's what I think.

Because old sharingan madara and sharinagn Tobi said that they will cast their Mugen Tsukyomi with a sharingan but the image that was shown was Kaguya's sharrinnegan. And when Rinnegan Madara used it, he said it was the power of Rinne.
 

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That's just it. the rinnegan is just pure power. nothing more. it doesn't have the healthy balance that uchiha's offer in most situations. you guys have been so manipulated by the rinnegan hype you forget that sharingan is equally a good tool in it's own way. the sharingan allows a user to resist gen, see chakra through debris, has 360 continuous protection. what made 6 paths of pain such a threat is that despite the lack of multiple jutsus per pain, they were all multiple, far more useful than animal paths and most likely have an easier time fighting genjutsu. nagato does not have that. he must suffer the biggest flaw of all. himself, madara knows this, which is why he used limbo to protect him.
what are you smoking?

rinnegan is just pure power?

absorb and ninjutsu
repel(or suck in) any attack
controlling gravity
summoning animals animals that grow stronger with each hit
the rinnegan CAN see chakra, the same way the sharingan can
ripping someone's sole out
creating mechanical weapons to give yourself the edge in cqc and lrc
stealing chakra also HEALS you

these are just the six paths.

nagato did not create the six paths of pain to make up for a blind spot. you made that up and no where is it supported in the manga, he made it after being crippled and thats the only conclusion we can draw. maybe madara used limbo because its a 2 on 1? not only that but due to the sage's chakra he could sense attacks meaning he already had his blind spot covered. its the same as saying "naruto only used clones to cover his blind spot" when in sage mode he can sense attacks regardless of where their coming from. same applies to madara. your jumping to conclusions and not supporting it.
 
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what are you smoking?

rinnegan is just pure power?

absorb and ninjutsu
repel(or suck in) any attack
controlling gravity
summoning animals animals that grow stronger with each hit
the rinnegan CAN see chakra, the same way the sharingan can
ripping someone's sole out
creating mechanical weapons to give yourself the edge in cqc and lrc
stealing chakra also HEALS you

these are just the six paths.

nagato did not create the six paths of pain to make up for a blind spot. you made that up and no where is it supported in the manga, he made it after being crippled and thats the only conclusion we can draw. maybe madara used limbo because its a 2 on 1? not only that but due to the sage's chakra he could sense attacks meaning he already had his blind spot covered. its the same as saying "naruto only used clones to cover his blind spot" when in sage mode he can sense attacks regardless of where their coming from. same applies to madara. your jumping to conclusions and not supporting it.
it's like you're just trying to nitpick for the sake of argument and nothing more.
1. chakra steal doesn't heal you, if you're talking about the boruto movie, that is kyuubi's ability not path.
2. animal paths are extremely easy to kill. itachi wiped them out with a simple kunai
3. already said rinnegan can see chakra, i said rinnegan can't see chakra through debris. learn to read.
4. just about all of those paths are pure power offensive. stealing chakra, soul rip, CT, gravity. etc
5. i did not make up nagato creating paths to help his view point. i said that was one of the reasons, not the only
6. no, madara used limbo cause he's not an idiot and obviously wants to compensate his blind spot. like kishi said, madara is perfect
7. 90% of what you said is completely trivial nor do i see how it makes my thread wrong in any way. if you're trying to imply that default rinnegan is better or something, then prove it. if not quit wasting my fcuking time with trivial stuff. jesus christ
 
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Three great Doujutsu.

Sharingan is of course the pinnacle eyes bcus its rooted from Rinn Sharingan.

But Tenseigan beats all:bdpf:

Edit: Explain to me Zelda how Edo Nagato alone able to manhandle Bee and KCM Naruto? IF not bcus of Itachi change side,, they both screwed.
 
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Three great Doujutsu.

Sharingan is of course the pinnacle eyes bcus its rooted from Rinn Sharingan.

But Tenseigan beats all:bdpf:

Edit: Explain to me Zelda how Edo Nagato alone able to manhandle Bee and KCM Naruto? IF not bcus of Itachi change side,, they both screwed.
Because if you look at the panel, right before killer bee attacked you see a frame shot of the animal paths viewing in their direction. therefore nagato can see his blind spot. which is exactly the point. if the rinnegan user does not have their animal paths created at the start of the battle before they go offensive, they leave themselves vulnerable with no blind spot protection. uchiha's fix this with susanoo to protect them and madara fixed this with his limbo to compensate. plus naruto was being an idiot, instead of being smart and using sage mode or clones he just charged in at nagato with no regard of safe measures and killer attacked in his base form.

yeah, thankgod itachi was there. he was the only one actually using his brain in the whole fight
 
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it's like you're just trying to nitpick for the sake of argument and nothing more.
1. chakra steal doesn't heal you, if you're talking about the boruto movie, that is kyuubi's ability not path.
2. animal paths are extremely easy to kill. itachi wiped them out with a simple kunai
3. already said rinnegan can see chakra, i said rinnegan can't see chakra through debris. learn to read.
4. just about all of those paths are pure power offensive. stealing chakra, soul rip, CT, gravity. etc
5. i did not make up nagato creating paths to help his view point. i said that was one of the reasons.
6. no, madara used limbo cause he's not an idiot and obviously wants to compensate his blind spot. like kishi said, madara is perfect
7. 90% of what you said is completely trivial nor do i see how it makes my thread wrong in any way. if you're trying to imply that default rinnegan is better or something, then prove it. if not quit wasting my fcuking time with trivial stuff. jesus christ
1. nagato was crippled and weak, after stealing naruto's chakra he fully recovered.

2. itachi took out a bird. i was referring to the dog that multiplies everytime its hit. you can waste your time constantly attacking it but you would just be wasting time. dont forget the gedo mezu.

3."learn to read." someone sounds a bit upset :lmao:.

also it was shown in the manga that nagato didnt want to fight anyway(if thats the scene your referring to when you say rinnegan cant see through debri). on top of that its been shown that a edo can restrict their movements a bit if they try hard enough, not unreasonable to say that nagato took the hit on purpose. him taking the hit doesnt auto mean he couldnt see it coming.

4. umm no? stealing chakra can be considered a support move. it does not directly damage the enemy and it restores your own chakra and possible heals you. that by definition is not a pure offensive move. gravity and be used to pull away attacks and make the enemy lose their footing. this can be both offensive and defensive but you only want to look at it in a "pure offensive" way. you say all those abilities so im assuming you also mean almighty push? which repeals just about anything? repeals being the key word? which is defensive in nature? i'll just say it, repealing enemies(large and small) + attacks isnt purely offensive. not to mention pulling in enemies isnt purely offensive.

5. the reason nagato created paths was to hide his blindspots right? im waiting for the evidence that suggest he had a blind spot.

6. your not providing any evidence to support madara having a blind spot other than your own bias.

7. " 90% of what you said is completely trivial nor do i see how it makes my thread wrong in any way. if you're trying to imply that default rinnegan is better or something, then prove it. if not quit wasting my"

your thread is about the rinnegans weakness. you have yet to prove it has a blind spot, only that certain actions support it having a blind spot instead of proving the blind spot itself. you claim the paths are purely power offensive which is wrong. i have yet to see any other "weaknesses' stated by you so im only going to discuss these two, purely offensive and having a blind spot. i havent wasted your time, you wont see it any other way nor provide compelling evidence that your right.

"fcuking time with trivial stuff. jesus christ" someone seems a bit upset :lmao:
 
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Because if you look at the panel, right before killer bee attacked you see a frame shot of the animal paths viewing in their direction. therefore nagato can see his blind spot. which is exactly the point. if the rinnegan user does not have their animal paths created at the start of the battle before they go offensive, they leave themselves vulnerable with no blind spot protection. uchiha's fix this with susanoo to protect them and madara fixed this with his limbo to compensate.
Animal path is one of Rinnegan ability, thats mean it can be count as battle assistant same as Susanoo(Sharingan) and Limbo.

And why you tried to put Madara's Limbo away from Rinnegan as Madara produce Limbo from his Rinnegan. Like Animal Path,, Limbo is one of exclusive Rinn tech. If ordinary Rinnegan dont have limbo, the user can use Animal path as you said here to close the vulnerable spot. What is the problem here?

Thats how the user used their special eyes, taking all the advantages the eyes can provide.

Sharingan user need to activate their guardian(susanoo) to protect them the same can be done by Rinnegan user by using animal path to get a wider vision.
 

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1. nagato was crippled and weak, after stealing naruto's chakra he fully recovered.

2. itachi took out a bird. i was referring to the dog that multiplies everytime its hit. you can waste your time constantly attacking it but you would just be wasting time. dont forget the gedo mezu.

3."learn to read." someone sounds a bit upset :lmao:.

also it was shown in the manga that nagato didnt want to fight anyway(if thats the scene your referring to when you say rinnegan cant see through debri). on top of that its been shown that a edo can restrict their movements a bit if they try hard enough, not unreasonable to say that nagato took the hit on purpose. him taking the hit doesnt auto mean he couldnt see it coming.

4. umm no? stealing chakra can be considered a support move. it does not directly damage the enemy and it restores your own chakra and possible heals you. that by definition is not a pure offensive move. gravity and be used to pull away attacks and make the enemy lose their footing. this can be both offensive and defensive but you only want to look at it in a "pure offensive" way. you say all those abilities so im assuming you also mean almighty push? which repeals just about anything? repeals being the key word? which is defensive in nature?

5. the reason nagato created paths was to hide his blindspots right? im waiting for the evidence that suggest he had a blind spot.

6. your not providing any evidence to support madara having a blind spot other than your own bias.

7. " 90% of what you said is completely trivial nor do i see how it makes my thread wrong in any way. if you're trying to imply that default rinnegan is better or something, then prove it. if not quit wasting my"

your thread is about the rinnegans weakness. you have yet to prove it has a blind spot, only that certain actions support it having a blind spot instead of proving the blind spot itself. you claim the paths are purely power offensive which is wrong. i have yet to see any other "weaknesses' stated by you so im only going to discuss these two. i havent wasted your time, you wont see it any other way nor provide compelling evidence that your right.

"fcuking time with trivial stuff. jesus christ" someone seems a bit upset :lmao:
Honesly, I'm not sure if you're trolling or just incredibly retarded.

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Animal path is one of Rinnegan ability, thats mean it can be count as battle assistant same as Susanoo(Sharingan) and Limbo.

And why you tried to put Madara's Limbo away from Rinnegan as Madara produce Limbo from his Rinnegan. Like Animal Path,, Limbo is one of exclusive Rinn tech. If ordinary Rinnegan dont have limbo, the user can use Animal path as you said here to close the vulnerable spot. What is the problem here?

Thats how the user used their special eyes, taking all the advantages the eyes can provide.

Sharingan user need to activate their guardian(susanoo) to protect them the same can be done by Rinnegan user by using animal path to get a wider vision.
Because as far as we know, limbo is exclusive to him. hence why i didn't bring it up cause then i gotta bring up every other ability which isn't the point of the thread. also, i did include the animal path, but again. it's easily killable and you have to use at the start. you're better not seeing your blind spot and having susanoo since it's continuous and won't die on you so easily.
 
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Because as far as we know, limbo is exclusive to him. hence why i didn't bring it up cause then i gotta bring up every other ability which isn't the point of the thread. also, i did include the animal path, but again. it's easily killable and you have to use at the start. you're better not seeing your blind spot and having susanoo since it's continuous and won't die on you so easily.
I think Rinnegan provide some sort of sensing ability also. Thats mean it can sense attack from behind.
 

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I think Rinnegan provide some sort of sensing ability also. Thats mean it can sense attack from behind.
No, that was nagato's personal perk. not a rinnegan default ability. which btw can only sense chakra. it's sage mode that allows a user to sense any attacks
 

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Honesly, I'm not sure if you're trolling or just incredibly retarded.

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two different arguments. I was arguing that madara and nagato do not have blind spots(as they are both sensors + other reasons) the same way naruto in sage mode(or kcm) doesnt really have a blind spot due to sensing. the rinnegan itself doesnt have 360 vision you are correct
 
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No, that was nagato's personal perk. not a rinnegan default ability. which btw can only sense chakra. it's sage mode that allows a user to sense any attacks
Couldnt Nagato used this tech for added vision in one body?

Asura Path

Through the Asura Path, the user is able to form up to four additional arms and two additional faces, as well as a folded, serrated blade-like sash around their waist.

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He may not created additional head when he fought Bee and Naruto but this is possible and within reach. Instead of using Animal path, he can used Asura Path additional head.

In that fight he maybe chose not to create additional head bcus animal path already gave him wide area vision
 
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Couldnt Nagato used this tech for added vision in one body?

Asura Path

Through the Asura Path, the user is able to form up to four additional arms and two additional faces, as well as a folded, serrated blade-like sash around their waist.

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He may not created additional head when he fougth Bee and Naruto but this is possible and within reach. Instead of using Animal path, he can used Asura Path additional head.
sigh.........which i already covered in the "use two abilites at once ". yes rinnegan users can use it. but again, he has to be aware that someone is about to flank him like nagato did to killer bee <------ would not had happened if not for the animal path vision
 

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sigh.........which i already covered in the "use two abilites at once ". yes rinnegan users can use it. but again, he has to be aware that someone is about to flank him like nagato did to killer bee <------ would not had happened if not for the animal path vision
Do you left the part that he also can created two additional faces. Animal path no need to be summon.
 
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