Rinnegan

[DHOH]

if madara had time to train his rinnegan he'd probably be able to do the same things as well

Madara had his rinnengan before he gave it to Nagato.

 

[V h o]

Tomoe on Sasuke's rinnegan are only for sharingan powers, his rinnegan did not turn off despite going to kaguya's dimensions a few times.....

 

[gerizzyYMcrew]

Madara had his rinnengan before he gave it to Nagato.

madara awakened his rinnegan as a weak old man

 

[DHOH]

madara awakened his rinnegan as a weak old man

That means what?? That weak old man taught Obito rinnengan jutsu.

 

[AnonymousShinobi]

if madara had time to train his rinnegan he'd probably be able to do the same things as well

Smh, based on what?

Sasuke had JUST awakened his Rinnegan and doing that. There is nothing that suggests Madara can do what Sasuke had did.

Madara was at full power (3 eye'd Rinnegan + Juubi Chakra), and was still making his CT's with a core. If he couldn't do it then there is nothing that suggests "if he had trained" he could have done what Sasuke was doing.

 

[gerizzyYMcrew]

That means what?? That weak old man taught Obito rinnengan jutsu.

yea the basic 6 paths...I'm pretty sure sasuke trained to learn how to open portals

 

[gerizzyYMcrew]

Smh, based on what?

Sasuke had JUST awakened his Rinnegan and doing that. There is nothing that suggests Madara can do what Sasuke had did.

Madara was at full power (3 eye'd Rinnegan + Juubi Chakra), and was still making his CT's with a core. If he couldn't do it then there is nothing that suggests "if he had trained" he could have done what Sasuke was doing.

which makes no god damn sense...do you see how kishimoto ignores his own power scaling at times?...why would madara NOT be able to do those things dispite being the ultimate shinobi with the strongest chakra alive at the time???

momoshiki could create chakra pills...return absorbed ninjutsu back 10 times stronger...AND open portals...but not the superior six paths madara?

 

[DHOH]

yea the basic 6 paths...I'm pretty sure sasuke trained to learn how to open portals

All you have is speculation and that's enough to end this arguement.

 

[gerizzyYMcrew]

All you have is speculation and that's enough to end this arguement.

it's not speculation you retard...if sasuke was opening portals AS SOON AS he awakened the rinnegan during the fourth great ninja war then this would not even be a conversation...the fact that sasuke HAD TO TRAIN to open portals means madara CAN TRAIN his rinnegan to do the same...or are you saying that what kurama stated in chapter 698 about sasuke's rinnegan is not true?...lololololololol

 

[AnonymousShinobi]

it's not speculation you retard...if sasuke was opening portals AS SOON AS he awakened the rinnegan during the fourth great ninja war then this would not even be a conversation...the fact that sasuke HAD TO TRAIN to open portals means madara CAN TRAIN his rinnegan to do the same...or are you saying that what kurama stated in chapter 698 about sasuke's rinnegan is not true?...lololololololol

Asking you a question:

What do you think are the requirements to unlock rinnegan?

 

[gerizzyYMcrew]

Asking you a question:

What do you think are the requirements to unlock rinnegan?

that has nothing to do with my comment...but I think I get what you are trying to say

you awaken it by getting hagoromo's chakra...which both madara and sasuke ended up getting

 

[SenseiSama]

if madara had time to train his rinnegan he'd probably be able to do the same things as well

Gtfo with that logic, he had more time than Sasuke to learn the Rinnegan's feats before giving them to Nagato. S/t feats are not Hagoromo's abilities, and neither are Sharingan feats.

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

I agree Sasuke has all 6 paths jutsu....:kk:
He is just too awesome to rely on them or use them when needed. Like in Boruto the movie when Naruto had to tank Momoshiki's giant bijuu dama when Sasuke could've easily neutralised it with his preta path right, or when Momoshiki burnt his ass he could've uset ST or preta again but he didn't.

Or like he could've used ST but again didn't..

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But I completely understand, Sasuke is still training to be superior ninja without completely relying on his rinnegan powers except a few.
I completely agree with Sasuke fans here....

 

[SenseiSama]

yea the basic 6 paths...I'm pretty sure sasuke trained to learn how to open portals

Madara has Six Path Senjutsu which grants understanding of all things, and he had the Shinju's powers. Yet he did not manage to produce any of Sasuke's feats. Your claims are invalid.

 

[AnonymousShinobi]

that has nothing to do with my comment...but I think I get what you are trying to say

you awaken it by getting hagoromo's chakra...which both madara and sasuke ended up getting

I know it had nothing to do with your comment I just had to ask you a question.

But I think the reason that Sasuke's rinnegan is much superior to Madaras (in terms solely Rinnegan feats, JJ Madara > Sasuke in anything else) is because he got that 50% chakra boost from Hagoromo. Sure Madara did end up getting Hagoromo chakra through combining Indra + Ashura chakra, but that is still no where near the level Hagoromo charka Sasuke got. This is why it is commonly accepted a Rinnegan Sasuke > DRSM (non JJ) Madara.

The reason Madara's Rinnegan skills (like his country level CTs) were so strong was because they were amplified by Juubi Chakra. However Juubi Chakra doesn't advance Rinnegan to the point of the Rinnegan Sasuke has, which is why even though Madara had rinnegan much longer than Sasuke, he still couldn't do feats such as a coreless CT or opening dimensions.

This is a really complicated subject.

 

[gerizzyYMcrew]

Gtfo with that logic, he had more time than Sasuke to learn the Rinnegan's feats before giving them to Nagato. S/t feats are not Hagoromo's abilities, and neither are Sharingan feats.

no he did NOT...attached to the gedo statue as an old ****ing man on the verge of death?...**** outta here

 

[SenseiSama]

I know it had nothing to do with your comment I just had to ask you a question.

But I think the reason that Sasuke's rinnegan is much superior to Madaras (in terms solely Rinnegan feats, JJ Madara > Sasuke in anything else) is because he got that 50% chakra boost from Hagoromo. Sure Madara did end up getting Hagoromo chakra through combining Indra + Ashura chakra, but that is still no where near the level Hagoromo charka Sasuke got. This is why it is commonly accepted a Rinnegan Sasuke > DRSM (non JJ) Madara.

The reason Madara's Rinnegan skills (like his country level CTs) were so strong was because they were amplified by Juubi Chakra. However Juubi Chakra doesn't advance Rinnegan to the point of the Rinnegan Sasuke has, which is why even though Madara had rinnegan much longer than Sasuke, he still couldn't do feats such as a coreless CT or opening dimensions.

I know my wording on this might have been sloppy, and this is a really complicated subject. If you did not get a word I said tell me and I will try and word it differently.

Sasuke's Rinnegan is superior for simple reasons

Madara's Rinnegan = Indra + Ashura

Sasuke's Rinnegan = (Indra + Ashura) + Indra


Without the Juubi's power, Madara's dojutsu is inferior to Sasuke's. With the Juubi's power, Sasuke's dojutsu is superior to JJ Madara's.

 

[gerizzyYMcrew]

Madara has Six Path Senjutsu which grants understanding of all things, and he had the Shinju's powers. Yet he did not manage to produce any of Sasuke's feats. Your claims are invalid.

yet momoshiki can open portals and his rinnegan is nothing special :sdo: your logic does not add up (kishimoto's logic)

 

[AnonymousShinobi]

Sasuke's Rinnegan is superior for simple reasons

Madara's Rinnegan = Indra + Ashura

Sasuke's Rinnegan = (Indra + Ashura) + Indra

When you say (Indra + Ashura) are you referring to the Chakra Hagoromo gave him?

 

[gerizzyYMcrew]

I know it had nothing to do with your comment I just had to ask you a question.

But I think the reason that Sasuke's rinnegan is much superior to Madaras (in terms solely Rinnegan feats, JJ Madara > Sasuke in anything else) is because he got that 50% chakra boost from Hagoromo. Sure Madara did end up getting Hagoromo chakra through combining Indra + Ashura chakra, but that is still no where near the level Hagoromo charka Sasuke got. This is why it is commonly accepted a Rinnegan Sasuke > DRSM (non JJ) Madara.

The reason Madara's Rinnegan skills (like his country level CTs) were so strong was because they were amplified by Juubi Chakra. However Juubi Chakra doesn't advance Rinnegan to the point of the Rinnegan Sasuke has, which is why even though Madara had rinnegan much longer than Sasuke, he still couldn't do feats such as a coreless CT or opening dimensions.

This is a really complicated subject.

if that is the case then explain madara pulling down giant meteors from deep in space right after his debut