Rinnegan vs Six Paths Senjutsu

[Ging]

obito was jin of 10 tails I think that's why he absorbed it

Naruto didn't gather the chakra kurama did and he also evidently used the bijuu chakra for those attacks matter of fact he used their chakra for just about everything in those fights except that one rasengan where he fell

Do you even know what exactly senjutsu of six paths is?

One can only get senjutsu of six paths when actually he has all nine bijuus and senjutsu .

Reread manga.bro.

It was narutos order to gather senjutsu which actually his clone could also gathered.

It was nature chakra not kuramas.

 

[Sound]

Six Paths Senjutsu. Rinnegan Sasuke needed another +1 power-up just to fight on the level of a Six Paths Senjutsu master.

 

[riley freeman]

Six Paths Senjutsu. Rinnegan Sasuke needed another +1 power-up just to fight on the level of a Six Paths Senjutsu master.

Sasuke wasn't a rinnegan master at that point

 

[Gerkak]

-True
-Kaguya wasn't using COAT, and COAT has it's limit, it cant bring back the dead or stuff like that while samsara can, but it really depends on what purpose you use it for
-unparallel understanding of a technique doesn't mean the potential to learn that technique tho, it means like you would know all the adv. and disadvantages of that jutsu and know the ways to easily counter it
-Naruto is the only one I can use, someone like jiraiya and kakashi would also pretty much be unstoppable and tooo diverse with the rinnegan also

-Kaguya was using COAT. All TSB have COAT. As long as one can use TSB perfectly they have COAT. Therefore kaguya is a COAT user.
-Unparalleled understanding and mastery of chakra and ninjutsu. It does mean that he could learn and master any jutsu. E.g If anyone has unparalleled understanding of bridge construction it means they can help construct any type of bridge.
- I see your point. But still how does prep make a rinnegan user defeat a six paths senjutsu user?

 

[Gerkak]

Sasuke wasn't a rinnegan master at that point

One can argue that naruto wasn't a rikudo senjutsu master either.

 

[Sound]

Sasuke wasn't a rinnegan master at that point

He had CT which is the strongest Rinnegan technique. Other paths are useless at this point.

 

[Ging]

lol, fail because I'm not a sasukefanboy, not everything has to be about sasuke vs. naruto
this is about rinnegan and sps

-you say rinnegan does not nullify ninjutsu automatically, true, but it can nullify sage chakra ninjutsu and natural ninjutsu easily while sps cant
-I don't think you know what unlimited chakra means lol, even kaguya(which all chakra belonged to) had chakra limits

-rinnegan can't absorb senjutsus:
It can only absorb little senjutsu chakra.

You must be registered for see images

Senjutsu also can't work against Sps if the user has senjutsu too: as did before with minato even his ftg rasengan couldn't work against sps madara because senjutsu allow you to react properly.

You must be registered for see images

You must be registered for see images

Again, you are missing the fact that senjutsu gives reflexes which can dodge any technique even from blind spots.

You must be registered for see images

While rinnegan can't sense blind spot attacks:

You must be registered for see images

- its close to unlimited. As he can recharge it everytime

 

[frozen5]

How did he get his sage mode? A rinnegan ability. Why is it that if you have eyes you can get both and if you have the inferior body you only get one?

Rinnegan is superior because not only do you can you get both, but you have all 5 elements mastered. Hashirama was considered a "body" type and he only had sage mode.

And you can control all the tailed beast at will. They only lose because of the good guy plot. Who is trolling now troll.

you must be joking... you say so6p sage mode is inferior because of the method its obtained? really? thats your argument?

the indra incarnate can take the chakra of the ashura incarnate and gain the rennigan
the ashura incarnate can take the eyes of the indra incarnate and gain rennigan

so whats your point?

also considering the fact that its inherently impossible for an uchia to gain mastery over nature energy.. they wouldnt even be able to reach sage mode.. much much less so6p sage mode on their own

 

[Transcendence]

Even as a Sasuke fan I have to admit, it's Six Paths Senjutsu. They both have almost unlimited potential for the most part, but Six Paths Senjutsu has the added benefit of TSB's which if mastered to a high enough degree, can nullify all Ninjutsu, rendering Rin'negan ninjutsu useless and the amplification of all the powers used by someone using SPS is above someone using their own chakra from the Rin'negan. Even with that said, if I had to choose one to have, I'd still want the Rin'negan.

 

[riley freeman]

-Kaguya was using COAT. All TSB have COAT. As long as one can use TSB perfectly they have COAT. Therefore kaguya is a COAT user.
-Unparalleled understanding and mastery of chakra and ninjutsu. It does mean that he could learn and master any jutsu. E.g If anyone has unparalleled understanding of bridge construction it means they can help construct any type of bridge.
- I see your point. But still how does prep make a rinnegan user defeat a six paths senjutsu user?

-Not really, that's like saying all ms user have kamui, you have no proof that it was COAT so you are assuming it which takes away the credibility
-No, if I understand how a gun work and how to make it, it is useless if I don't have the requirements for it, that' what is means, you might know how to make the bridge, but that doesn't mean you have the right stuff for making it right?
-Because with prep(and the 6 paths of pain) you can execute a plan to almost perfection while you cant do that with sps

One can argue that naruto wasn't a rikudo senjutsu master either.

True, but the body have always been faster to learn than the eyes( naruto could use sm, kcm,bm, bsm to almost full capacity when he got them while sasuke, obito,madara,nagato couldn't use their powers well until the point of death)

 

[pakitoT3L3K]

To answer your question no, there not equal actually...if you keep dennying that that sasuke didnt use any help from the biju, then obviously you need to put your crack pipe down, also if you're dennying that he didnt because he used it on susanno, then you need to put that needle down too. I think the only way a rinnegan can actually compete. Vs sps is with help. Limbo doesnt count since madara was the only one actuallt able to use it. Sausages rookie ass only used it for like his lame instant transmission. So the only available rnnegan is obitos,naggatos,and madaras. There all pretty op but narutos senjutsu is probably more OP. I mean come on regular hashi wood senju equalled madaras sussano. Now imagine if naruto cloned like 5 and left them gathering chakra (sps) senjutsu chakra that is. Thats a lil too much for even madara. If kurama could counter the all powerful one shot indra arrow, (which is basicly half of kaguyas chakra with only two rassengan (even if they were bijju rassengan). Lets say naruto is not naruto, lets say hes menma, the evil one. Since the sage granted yin and yang to naruto and sausage, dont you think naruto(menma) same intent as sasuke (kill) hed take the bijus chakra too no? I think he could if he wanted to he can absorb sage senjutsu which is tiers above regular toad senjutsu, itd be alot easier to controll the biju chakra instead of the sage senjutsu. I mean naruto himself saw the biju in sm and was like wtf that s everything. Im sure senjutsu is more OP given the right circumstances aswell as rinnegan but that requires no trainning or understanding thats just like given to you at like max no?

 

[Styles]

Even as a Sasuke fan I have to admit, it's Six Paths Senjutsu. They both have almost unlimited potential for the most part, but Six Paths Senjutsu has the added benefit of TSB's which if mastered to a high enough degree, can nullify all Ninjutsu, rendering Rin'negan ninjutsu useless and the amplification of all the powers used by someone using SPS is above someone using their own chakra from the Rin'negan. Even with that said, if I had to choose one to have, I'd still want the Rin'negan.

TSB can only nullify jutsu's that don't contain senjutsu or sages chakra Rinnegan is made from sages chakra I don't think it can nullify Rinnegan jutsu's at the very least it probably cancel out.

you must be joking... you say so6p sage mode is inferior because of the method its obtained? really? thats your argument?

the indra incarnate can take the chakra of the ashura incarnate and gain the rennigan
the ashura incarnate can take the eyes of the indra incarnate and gain rennigan

so whats your point?

also considering the fact that its inherently impossible for an uchia to gain mastery over nature energy.. they wouldnt even be able to reach sage mode.. much much less so6p sage mode on their own

Yet Sasuke's body was comparible with nature energy and mastered it even before sage mode was thought of.

 

[Transcendence]

TSB can only nullify jutsu's that don't contain senjutsu or sages chakra Rinnegan is made from sages chakra I don't think it can nullify Rinnegan jutsu's at the very least it probably cancel out.

At the very least it won't be a full negation, but it nearly nullifies whatever a Rin'negan user uses. Hence why it's a nearly absolute offence and defence.

 

[Ging]

TSB can only nullify jutsu's that don't contain senjutsu or sages chakra Rinnegan is made from sages chakra I don't think it can nullify Rinnegan jutsu's at the very least it probably cancel out.

One can nullify rinnegan techniques.

For senjutsu. Sps user can dodged it anytime because senjutsu allow user to react on time like this:

You must be registered for see images

You must be registered for see images

Reflexes >>>> any technique

 

[riley freeman]

He had CT which is the strongest Rinnegan technique. Other paths are useless at this point.

Ct isn't even the rinnegan best technique, it's the strongest but not close to being the best tho

-rinnegan can't absorb senjutsus:
It can only absorb little senjutsu chakra.

You must be registered for see images

Senjutsu also can't work against Sps if the user has senjutsu too: as did before with minato even his ftg rasengan couldn't work against sps madara because senjutsu allow you to react properly.

You must be registered for see images

You must be registered for see images

Again, you are missing the fact that senjutsu gives reflexes which can dodge any technique even from blind spots.

You must be registered for see images

While rinnegan can't sense blind spot attacks:

You must be registered for see images

- its close to unlimited. As he can recharge it everytime

-Rinnegan can absorb senjutsu ninjutsu tho
-All sps user have sm so your point is invalid
-Sps reflexes cant help you dodge every tech:| sasuke hit naruto with chidori just a few chapters ago
-Rinnegan blind spot can be dealt with easily by a rinnegan user

Even as a Sasuke fan I have to admit, it's Six Paths Senjutsu. They both have almost unlimited potential for the most part, but Six Paths Senjutsu has the added benefit of TSB's which if mastered to a high enough degree, can nullify all Ninjutsu, rendering Rin'negan ninjutsu useless and the amplification of all the powers used by someone using SPS is above someone using their own chakra from the Rin'negan. Even with that said, if I had to choose one to have, I'd still want the Rin'negan.

You can say it the other way around, tsb can nullify all ninjutsu attacks, same can be said for the rinnegan

 

[Transcendence]

Ct isn't even the rinnegan best technique, it's the strongest but not close to being the best tho



-Rinnegan can absorb senjutsu ninjutsu tho
-All sps user have sm so your point is invalid
-Sps reflexes cant help you dodge every tech:| sasuke hit naruto with chidori just a few chapters ago
-Rinnegan blind spot can be dealt with easily by a rinnegan user



You can say it the other way around, tsb can nullify all ninjutsu attacks, same can be said for the rinnegan

Rin'negan doesn't nullify at all. The closest it can do is absorb chakra, but it can't nullify it like TSB.

 

[Styles]

At the very least it won't be a full negation, but it nearly nullifies whatever a Rin'negan user uses. Hence why it's a nearly absolute offence and defence.

Which means that a Rinnegan user can still hurt a user with TSB and vise versa though it wouldn't be the full attack since it would be nullified even though it's not by much.

 

[Gerkak]

-Not really, that's like saying all ms user have kamui, you have no proof that it was COAT so you are assuming it which takes away the credibility
-No, if I understand how a gun work and how to make it, it is useless if I don't have the requirements for it, that' what is means, you might know how to make the bridge, but that doesn't mean you have the right stuff for making it right?
-Because with prep(and the 6 paths of pain) you can execute a plan to almost perfection while you cant do that with sps




True, but the body have always been faster to learn than the eyes( naruto could use sm, kcm,bm, bsm to almost full capacity when he got them while sasuke, obito,madara,nagato couldn't use their powers well until the point of death)

- It is not the same thing. MS is a dojutsu that grants different techniques to different users, TSB on the other hand, is a single technique. This is added to the fact that the data book confirmed that kaguya's TSB was exactly the same as naruto's and by extension madara's and obito's means that it also has COAT. There fore kaguya has COAT.

- Naruto does have the right stuff to make any jutsu because he has all elements. The bridge builder with unparalleled mastery of bridge building, with the tools can build any type of bridge. The rinnegan was considered to allow its user to master any jutsu besides bloodline specific techniques because it allowed its users to master all elements.

- I don't see why a rikudo senjutsu user can't create a plan to defeat a rinnegan user. Naruto in regular SM was able to defeat 5 out of 6 of nagato's paths through plans. The creation of plans is dependent on the individual not the abilities granted by SPS or rinnegan.

Nah, not really. Naruto could only maintain BM for 5 mins the first time he got it, while in KCM he kept on crashing because he had to adjust to the new form. And recently in SPS naruto couldn't fly until he began to adjusted to the new mode. Body powers are in no way learnt quicker than eye powers.

 

[Styles]

One can nullify rinnegan techniques.

For senjutsu. Sps user can dodged it anytime because senjutsu allow user to react on time like this:

You must be registered for see images

You must be registered for see images

Reflexes >>>> any technique

TSB can negate anything that don't have sage chakra in it and senjutsu Rinnegan have sage chakra in it. So TSB can't negate Rinnegan techniques or at least not fully so a TSB user would still take damage.

 

[riley freeman]

Rin'negan doesn't nullify at all. The closest it can do is absorb chakra, but it can't nullify it like TSB.

Absorbing a technique nullify it's ability, and it is said in the manga that the rinnegan can absorb all ninjutsu chakra