Rinnegan Tobi with Gunbai puts Current Sasuke to shame!!

[Kαmi]

sasuke used his jutsu about 3 times against madara, so cooldown is irrelevant here as he would only need it once or twice and the battle is over, dont take this troll thread too serously..

@bold: I agree entirely. And I'm not actually, it just kinda bugs me that he just has so many ignorant followers when it's quite easy to tell that he twists manga scans and purposely interprets them in a sense to where it downplays Sasuke.

 

[AlphaScythian]

Well, yes and no. As the body gets sucked in, the user has time to react like Minato did and teleport away, not far-fetched to say Sasuke could do it midway as well.

Ok so far. But then he wont be able to repeat it again for a while. One can also remember that Obito could up his warp speed to beat FTG thou.

Now, once he's in completely and that portal is completely cut off, it's a wrap. No getting back.

Good.

And it's not as if Sasuke's only method of countering Kamui is just his swapping technique. His own reflexes and speed can save him in some instances and using PS can distance Obito at other times, not to mention Sasuke can fly in multiple ways and Chidori stream can also be used to temporarily distant himself from Obito. He can avoid multiple ways similar to like how Naruto and others were able to avoid being Kamui'd for so long.

Naruto was never faced vs Obito alone, he was about to be warped but saved by gai and kakashi.

PS was never a factor vs kamui.

Chidori variants wont do, Obito is more then capable taking a good hit.

Obito has may fly and sasuke lacks sensing, he can capitalize on that

As for the scan, Fu makes his hand sign and Obito noticed that right away. Then he activates and Obito reacts accordingly. Fast but not necessarily instant.

That's rather odd, Obito was faced backwards to him and still in half flip from dodging kunais, but he sure had his reaction in place.

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Well maybe this one...Obito reacted to explosive tags.

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Or this...both are good reaction feats.


Anyway, if Obito ditches that useless rinnegan for izanagi, he may take sasuke by surprise, capitalizing on lack of sensing and have a chance, other wise sasuke wins.

you tell me sasuke jumped when the portal was still seen but i clearly see him running. How much more entertaiment are you giving me today? your denial is priceless, let me enjoy this some more.

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The portal is still there next panel and its not like sasuke cant use it on the run U_U

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

I completely agree.

 

[Kαmi]

Ok so far. But then he wont be able to repeat it again for a while. One can also remember that Obito could up his warp speed to beat FTG thou.
Good.
Naruto was never faced vs Obito alone, he was about to be warped but saved by gai and kakashi.

PS was never a factor vs kamui.

Chidori variants wont do, Obito is more then capable taking a good hit.

Obito has may fly and sasuke lacks sensing, he can capitalize on that
That's rather odd, Obito was faced backwards to him and still in half flip from dodging kunais, but he sure had his reaction in place.

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Well maybe this one...Obito reacted to explosive tags.

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Or this...both are good reaction feats.


Anyway, if Obito ditches that useless rinnegan for izanagi, he may take sasuke by surprise, capitalizing on lack of sensing and have a chance, other wise sasuke wins.

He could take Sasuke off guard, I admit that. But that's only after a battle that continues for a while, and although Naruto wasn't always alone he still had time to react and reflexes to do so. Implying that it's not just some quick technique that will consistently take high-tier characters by surprise. And Obito only thinks he warp fast enough to beat FTG, but those are just his words. It's speculation to say he can every time. Obito knew the basics of FTG, there must be a reason why he didn't initially up his warp speed in the first place right? Chances are, that's something he's not able to do all the time. And those are good reaction feats but still not instant-like enough like FTG and the swapping technique.

I honestly don't even think the battle would get that far. A swap blitz literally puts an end to it. JJ Madara was surprised 3 times by that technique. Obito has no reflex/reaction feat to put him over Madara's.

 

[Ansatsuken]

Also Sasuke S/T is good counter to Kamui warp mechanism.

Yes we just seen clearly the mechanism of Rinn swap when Sasuke at desert dimension. But as FTG that having no cooldown time, Rinnegan swap that having that flaw is also can ascape from Kamui warp.

OK, let see when the first time Minato up against Kamui, he manage to escape it by activate the FTG seal from one of his kunai, without handseal, actually not needed, the mechanism of teleporting to FTG kunai is same as teleporting to FT marking at body, user just transfer their chakra to the marking only.

But, here I'm not to talk about FTG but rinne swap. Rinn swap is working by changing one object in random location to the users of technique location.

But as many debate above they just look at longest or farthest teleporting distance possible but not the purpose of move.

What I mean by purpose of move is that, Rinne swap users dont need to think to teleport to farthest place he want rather the main thing here is escaping Kamui warp.

That mean by that purpose, the users just swap anything around him that can be swap like medium size stone or animals or maybe an insects. But I dont think they can swap with tree, because tree is unmoveable. And also regardless of the item distance but not out of rinnegan range

Yeah! the point is purpose of move.

And then the other thing in fight is different matter altogether and in different discussion

 

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Minator post his theories as facts to counter others :leaf:

 

[Minator93]

I'm tired of you spamming your threads where you just downplay Sasuke. They're not manga proof, they're just you downplaying Sasuke to the point and Naruto fans/Sasuke haters agreeing. You're pretty much the equivalent of Uchicha Macho except with Naruto. You guys pretty much do the same exact thing besides the bad grammar.

Freakin KCM Naruto was able to react was able react several times to Kamui and not get sucked in. I already said the swap is not his only way to avoid getting sucked in and your example of Kaguya was after Sasuke used his swapping technique already, the cool down you just mentioned was in to play. We've seen Sasuke react several times to extremely fast techniques and keeping up with Juubito implies he can react to Kamui as well since Juubi jins have shown to react to instant like techniques before. And it sounds absolutely ignorant to say that Tobi can beat a Sasuke who is supposed to rival current Naruto. You think Kamui Obito can keep up with Juubi Jins and current Naruto? That's not even a good joke man. It has nothing to do with me being delusional but everything to do with the fact that you're obsessed with Sasuke and downplaying a fictional drawing for some odd reason.

Don't blame me because I don't follow the bandwagon. I can see what you're saying you think that Current Sasuke should rival Current Naruto so he automatically goes above all of the previously shown characters but it isn't the truth. There are characters or OP hax techs that can't be beaten by both Naruto and Sasuke.

Dunno about the others but I believe in the following,

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KCM Naruto never reacted to Kamui, heck he was finished against Kamui had it not been for Kakashi and Gai

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It's not my fault that Kishi introduced such an OP tech, he himself said that there's no defense against it. People think that Minato defeated Obito with his Hiraishin so Sasuke automatically defeats him, but this is a stage 1 thinking. I've shown how the two techs are very different and what Minato did is something Sasuke can't do. His tech is simply different from Hiraishin.

You say Sasuke reacted to Juubito or Say he beat Madara, well I already showed why his tech worked on Madara whereas Hiraishin didn't but you ignored it. Well fine, now what about the fact that same Sasuke couldn't do jack shit when Madara used the Kamui?

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What happened to his so-called reactions or incredible feats? Why wasn't he with Madara inside Kamui, killing him apparently?

It's easy to say Sasuke > All, Sasuke Rinneblitz > All. But when it comes to countering my posts with manga I became a hater, troll, basher or apparently termed as Macho smh

Nice thread,Bro U_U

Thanks god you didn't make a thread about Double MS Obito vs Current Sasuke otherwise it would be a Neg Diff battle =D.

Minator93 always shows mercy against sasuke fanboys

Thanks bro

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I loved this part the most!! Tobi screaming deidara senpai!! XD

OT: Excellent thread Bro!!

Thanks bro

 

[Mad Daz]

While i wont comment on most of it I will say that sasukes rinneblitz does not counter kamui. We all know and have seen that sasuke can rarely actually land an atk after teleporting. His average atk speed gives obito plenty of time to phase it. Also the cooldown on the rinneswap can easily be abused by a kamui spammer like obito.

Its easy to think current sasuke would own Obito but his powers are a very good counter towards sasukes. The only thing that would turn the favor in sasukes direction would be if his teleport had no limits.

 

[Handsome Jack]

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We never saw Madara go full rampage with his current power

 

[King Of Pop]

@bold: I agree entirely. And I'm not actually, it just kinda bugs me that he just has so many ignorant followers when it's quite easy to tell that he twists manga scans and purposely interprets them in a sense to where it downplays Sasuke.

those followers are mostly sasuke haters followed up by fans of the character he is wanking and using to downplay sasuke so yh thats all he does. all it needs is for a non biased and logical mind to purposely view his threads and no doubt it wouldnt be hard to see the obvious bullshit it contains.

Thank you for the neg. I guess you really do like Sasuke after all and you just can't admit it.

What a sad little member.

lol he negged me too, just a sad troll

 

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lol he negged me too, just a sad troll

13 negs till now
should i post his previous faliure becoz he using his fanfics as facts

 

[Minator93]

While i wont comment on most of it I will say that sasukes rinneblitz does not counter kamui. We all know and have seen that sasuke can rarely actually land an atk after teleporting. His average atk speed gives obito plenty of time to phase it. Also the cooldown on the rinneswap can easily be abused by a kamui spammer like obito.

Its easy to think current sasuke would own Obito but his powers are a very good counter towards sasukes. The only thing that would turn the favor in sasukes direction would be if his teleport had no limits.

Exactly.

People also forget that tho MS Obito was defeated by Minato but Adult Obito held his own against KCM Minato and Kakashi despite being near death!!

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[Ansatsuken]

Exactly.

People also forget that tho MS Obito was defeated by Minato but Adult Obito held his own against KCM Minato and Kakashi despite being near death!!

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Kishi nerf Obito much, he able to do more. All my support characters is being nerf Kaguya, Madara, Obito.

Why..Kishi..Why.

 

[BLAZE]

Exactly.

People also forget that tho MS Obito was defeated by Minato but Adult Obito held his own against KCM Minato and Kakashi despite being near death!!

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Black Zetsu :leaf:

 

[Minator93]

Kishi nerf Obito much, he able to do more

Obito was always nerfed.

Black Zetsu :leaf:

Was using Obito's powers you dim-wit.

 

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Was using Obito's powers you dim-wit.

Dat Black Zetsu keeping obito even alive Dim Wit Lol
Does life force rings bell

 

[King Of Pop]

=Minator93;17334024]

It's not my fault that Kishi introduced such an OP tech, he himself said that there's no defense against it. People think that Minato defeated Obito with his Hiraishin so Sasuke automatically defeats him, but this is a stage 1 thinking. I've shown how the two techs are very different and what Minato did is something Sasuke can't do. His tech is simply different from Hiraishin.

theres a defense against it and that is reactions, if your reactions are good enough you can couunter it. saying no defense against it is obvious hyperbole and should not be taken literally if not i can pull out this scan were kishi also describes hebi sasuke as possessing god like speed, a lot of shit is stated there. minato defeating him is relevant because he is below saasuke in reactions and if a slower guy had no problems reacting and dealing with kamui then sasuke deals with it much easier. he has the reactions to smack obito once he becomes visible and the jutsu to freaking bliz his ass which in close range its even more effective than ftg as it requires no seals, obito would get shat on even worse than minato did to him, he is fodder near sasuke here.

You say Sasuke reacted to Juubito or Say he beat Madara, well I already showed why his tech worked on Madara whereas Hiraishin didn't but you ignored it. Well fine, now what about the fact that same Sasuke couldn't do jack shit when Madara used the Kamui?

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What happened to his so-called reactions or incredible feats? Why wasn't he with Madara inside Kamui, killing him apparently?

his back was already turned as he thought he had finished up madara from the slicing, he had no idea madara had kamui in his arsenal and by the time he turned back, it was already too late as madara had already kamuid away. thay scan proves nothing as madara could only kamui away after sasuke sliced him up and had his back turned in which madara took advantage of rather than before

It's easy to say Sasuke > All, Sasuke Rinneblitz > All. But when it comes to countering my posts with manga I became a hater, troll, basher or apparently termed as Macho smh

because your posts are always biased, with a purpose of making sasuke look bad at every turn, you twists scans a lot to suit your agenda so dont blame logical minds for calling you out as a troll as we are simply saying it as it is.

 

[Minator93]

Dat Black Zetsu keeping obito even alive Dim Wit Lol
Does life force rings bell

Does that same life force being taken by Madara rings a bell?

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Such a shit you are, getting owned every time.

 

[AlphaScythian]

He could take Sasuke off guard, I admit that. But that's only after a battle that continues for a while, and although Naruto wasn't always alone he still had time to react and reflexes to do so.

Because others would strike whenever Obito is up to warp.

Implying that it's not just some quick technique that will consistently take high-tier characters by surprise. And Obito only thinks he warp fast enough to beat FTG, but those are just his words. It's speculation to say he can every time.

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Nor byakugan or sharingan or bug sensing or w/e saw it coming. Not even kages and high jonins saw him saving sasuke from jinton.

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Is when Obito finds it appropriate to save sasuke.

Obito knew the basics of FTG, there must be a reason why he didn't initially up his warp speed in the first place right? Chances are, that's something he's not able to do all the time. And those are good reaction feats but still not instant-like enough like FTG and the swapping technique.

Its like theory vs practice stuff, he was just cocky there.

I honestly don't even think the battle would get that far. A swap blitz literally puts an end to it. JJ Madara was surprised 3 times by that technique. Obito has no reflex/reaction feat to put him over Madara's.

Madara was surprised by intangibility too at any rate it would be wise to start with intangibility on as he doesnt know sasuke's new abilities. If not stupid it's the way to go.

5 min intangibility or even more since sasuke cant pressure him enough and 10min of izanagi if he ditches that rinnegan, is dragging out abit, but as i said, it would be best delayed izanagi to use element of surprise

 

[Ansatsuken]

Does that same life force being taken by Madara rings a bell?

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Such a shit you are, getting owned every time.

Poor Obito :'(