Rinnegan or Sharingan

[Mighty Curtain Messiah]

A powerful user can control Kuybi. Kuybi is stronger than Nagato i hear no argument for this so i guess it is settled. And do not tell me the shit that it is sealed inside Naruto because then i wil say that Nagato is dead. Also do not say tell me that Nagato used only one body because i wil say that it was only eight tails and half the power because of yin and yang. And also the user that controls the kuybi will fight alonside.

This is a good argument. However... how and under what circumstances?

Firstly you need Kyyubi to appear and only then you can control it. Kyyubi is a natural disaster... in order to gain control over Kyybi, you need to find it and get it. You need it to appear. And kyybi appears very rare so....

And also who said that you can fight alongside, while maintaining the control over Kyybi ? - speculation?
Also you have brought Nagato into this discussion but Nagato is Nagato and Rinnegan is Rinnegan. The powers of Rinnegan depend on the amount of chakra the user has. Sage of six paths could create a moon and NO WAY could Kyyubi withstand that pressure. 8 tailed Kyyubi struggled to get out of 50x50m Chibaku tensei, dont tell me it could escape from 8000kmx8000km ??

Really, you sound a little bit biased towards the sharingan. Even saying something as arbitrary as "A bse sharingan is stronger than rinnegan" in the other thread.

Just for youtr better understanding of my points:

1) Kyyubi is a natural disaster and appears very rare. Therefore Sharingan has to wait for it to appear.

2) Pein doesnt represent the full power of Rinnegan. All the jutsus were just as strong as their users. Sage of six paths could create a moon. Moon > Kyybi.

 

[sageofmyobokuzan]

i honestly dont understand you peaceful, and im not trying to appeal to the crowd or anything right now, but we all read the manga, every single one of us on this forum, and almost all(well pretty much all) of us agree the rinnegan is the most powerful doujutsu in the naruto universe. yet, you seem to believe that you are the only one who understands what kishi is saying, that none of us are how do i say this, capable of understanding kishi's words, and that we need you--our naruto savior--to spell it out for us. what makes you so much better than us lol, do you have sharingan? and if so, is that what allows you to understand kishi so much better than the rest of us???

 

[peaceful]

This is a good argument. However... how and under what circumstances?

Oh? Thanks.

Firstly you need Kyyubi to appear and only then you can control it. Kyyubi is a natural disaster... in order to gain control over Kyybi, you need to find it and get it. You need it to appear. And kyybi appears very rare so....

Not really. You speculate by sayin so. There are many theories saying that Kuybi is conncted to Uchiha clan and that they can Summon it. Also, it is not so rare taking into account that Madar used it whenever he wanted(shodai, mianto)

And also who said that you can fight alongside, while maintaining the control over Kyybi ? - speculation?

Manga.

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Also you have brought Nagato into this discussion but Nagato is Nagato and Rinnegan is Rinnegan. The powers of Rinnegan depend on the amount of chakra the user has. Sage of six paths could create a moon and NO WAY could Kyyubi withstand that pressure. 8 tailed Kyyubi struggled to get out of 50x50m Chibaku tensei, dont tell me it could escape from 8000kmx8000km ??

Nine tails is a lot stronger than a eight tails. Keep in mind Kubi has half of its powers because of Minato.

Really, you sound a little bit biased towards the sharingan. Even saying something as arbitrary as "A bse sharingan is stronger than rinnegan" in the other thread

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That was a hyperbole in order to cause people to be a little more active and have some discussion.

1) Kyyubi is a natural disaster and appears very rare. Therefore Sharingan has to wait for it to appear.

I answered above.

2) Pein doesnt represent the full power of Rinnegan. All the jutsus were just as strong as their users. Sage of six paths could create a moon. Moon > Kyybi.

I also answered above.

 

[Steinbiz]

i honestly dont understand you peaceful, and im not trying to appeal to the crowd or anything right now, but we all read the manga, every single one of us on this forum, and almost all(well pretty much all) of us agree the rinnegan is the most powerful doujutsu in the naruto universe. yet, you seem to believe that you are the only one who understands what kishi is saying, that none of us are how do i say this, capable of understanding kishi's words, and that we need you--our naruto savior--to spell it out for us. what makes you so much better than us lol, do you have sharingan? and if so, is that what allows you to understand kishi so much better than the rest of us???

COMPLETELY agree. his sharingan fetish is getting REALLY fricking annoying.

 

[sageofmyobokuzan]

There are many theories around this topic. So dont state like it is true that Madara lost to Shodai. Besides Shodais mokuton resstrained Kuybi. Show me a page where pain used Mokuton.

um madara even said it himself that he lost to shodai, he said he lost but did not die. so there again kishi has spelled it out for us, and from the ultimate sharingan user himself!!

 

[peaceful]

i honestly dont understand you peaceful, and im not trying to appeal to the crowd or anything right now, but we all read the manga, every single one of us on this forum, and almost all(well pretty much all) of us agree the rinnegan is the most powerful doujutsu in the naruto universe. yet, you seem to believe that you are the only one who understands what kishi is saying, that none of us are how do i say this, capable of understanding kishi's words, and that we need you--our naruto savior--to spell it out for us. what makes you so much better than us lol, do you have sharingan? and if so, is that what allows you to understand kishi so much better than the rest of us???

There are more people if you see who voted. I am the only one defending my beliefs. Because as you can see there are many more who believe that Rinnegan is stronger than Sharingan.

Also once there was a man who said that earth is round. People said he was crazy...

Madara also said that he did not send Kuybi to Minato. Again you are...

 

[sageofmyobokuzan]

There are more people if you see who voted. I am the only one defending my beliefs. Because as you can see there are many more who believe that Rinnegan is stronger than Sharingan.

Also once there was a man who said that earth is round. People said he was crazy...

Madara also said that he did not send Kuybi to Minato. Again you are...

ya at that man used actual science to come up with that. we cannot use actual science when dealing with naruto so we have to go off kishi's word. which is what is said in the manga. and that is that rinnegan is the most powerful doujutsu of all. and also i love how whenever you need to avoid an opposing viewpoint you plead speculation.

 

[Steinbiz]

There are more people if you see who voted. I am the only one defending my beliefs. Because as you can see there are many more who believe that Rinnegan is stronger than Sharingan.

Also once there was a man who said that earth is round. People said he was crazy...

Madara also said that he did not send Kuybi to Minato. Again you are...

because you're the only only person that has the knowledge to come up with bogus theories why sharingan is stronger than rinnegan

HAHA wtf, you're so random

yeah, minato was battling the kyuubi but wasn't able to kill it because madara was countering minato's movements by using the kyuubi. so together they brought down minato. minato could take either one(madara or kyuubi) one on one but not together.

 

[peaceful]

ya at that man used actual science to come up with that. we cannot use actual science when dealing with naruto so we have to go off kishi's word. which is what is said in the manga. and that is that rinnegan is the most powerful doujutsu of all. and also i love how whenever you need to avoid an opposing viewpoint you plead speculation.

Stiil the others thought that they used science and so that man was believed to be mad. Ths is the same case.

I plead speulation when it i speculation. Like Rikoudo being stronger than Kuybi.

 

[Shodaime]

my eyes is the best problem solve!!!

 

[peaceful]

my eyes is the best problem solve!!!

lol. :d :d :d

 

[Typhon]

Stiil the others thought that they used science and so that man was believed to be mad. Ths is the same case.

I plead speulation when it i speculation. Like Rikoudo being stronger than Kuybi.

Isn't your comment that Kyuubi > Nagato also speculation?

We never saw full power kyuubi vs. full power Nagato, so saying it would come out one way or another is speculation, no?

 

[Kazamori]

Isn't your comment that Kyuubi > Nagato also speculation?

We never saw full power kyuubi vs. full power Nagato, so saying it would come out one way or another is speculation, no?

Right , but there's so many speculations =)

 

[peaceful]

Isn't your comment that Kyuubi > Nagato also speculation?

We never saw full power kyuubi vs. full power Nagato, so saying it would come out one way or another is speculation, no?

And we never saw an Uchiha member user of ems against a Rinnegan user. So the 67 votes are speculation? They are not because people believe something based on what we have seen.

But the info about Rikoudo can not justify any comment about his power.

 

[Mighty Curtain Messiah]

Nine tails is a lot stronger than a eight tails. Keep in mind Kubi has half of its powers because of Minato.

Still it is unknown if madara can summone kyyubi but i cant prove it wrong.
but you answered almost all of my points.


However, i disagree with the one i quoted above. Do you really think 9 tails is that much stronger in terms of raw power than 8tails that it can escape a moon?

I mean Kyybi is big and can cause storms and tsunamis and kill so many people, yet it struggled to completely destroy konoha (speculation? - maybe) as Rinnegan did with one jutsu. But it looks really small in comparison with moon. Come on, moon is 6 times smaller than earth and earth is hella big, noway Kyyubi could destroy 1/6 of our earth. (Speculation? no, just my opinion)

 

[Typhon]

And we never saw an Uchiha member user of ems against a Rinnegan user. So the 67 votes are speculation? They are not because people believe something based on what we have seen.

But the info about Rikoudo can not justify any comment about his power.

I disagree, the 67 votes are based on a quote from the manga itself saying the Rinnegan is more powerful than the Sharingan. That is the proof for that viewpoint. Your view on the other hand is speculation that Kishi was exaggerating with that statement. It is speculation because we have no actual proof supporting the idea that Kishi was exaggerating.

 

[peaceful]

Still it is unknown if madara can summone kyyubi but i cant prove it wrong.
but you answered almost all of my points.


However, i disagree with the one i quoted above. Do you really think 9 tails is that much stronger in terms of raw power than 8tails that it can escape a moon?

I mean Kyybi is big and can cause storms and tsunamis and kill so many people, yet it struggled to completely destroy konoha (speculation? - maybe) as Rinnegan did with one jutsu. But it looks really small in comparison with moon. Come on, moon is 6 times smaller than earth and earth is hella big, noway Kyyubi could destroy 1/6 of our earth. (Speculation? no, just my opinion)

Hey. I really do not know if a fully transformed Kuybi can withstand a chibaku tensei in the size of moon( probably it cant) though i do not know if Rikoudo could create something so big in size.

Also you said that Kuybi struggled to destroy Konoha. Nagato did not face Minato though!
Also, there are many theories about this too.

@Nanaki you are arguing in circles. The discussion has progressed once more. But you keep repeating Jirayas words. I have already prooved that Kishi is exaggarating and contradicting himself when i used your logic.

 

[Mugiwara]

Give me arguements about Sharingan being stronger than Rinnegan without saying anything about the user, lets say theres a character we dont know who has the sharingan and another one who has rinnegan, they have both been training their whole life with doujutsu, give me arguements about sharingan being stronger now.

 

[Kazamori]

It's opinions , opinions !!! Who knows who's right of you all... >.<

 

[Mighty Curtain Messiah]

Give me arguements about Sharingan being stronger than Rinnegan without saying anything about the user, lets say theres a character we dont know who has the sharingan and another one who has rinnegan, they have both been training their whole life with doujutsu, give me arguements about sharingan being stronger now.

Depends on the amount of chakra Rinnegan or Sharingan user have.

If Sharingan user is able to control Kyybi then Rinnegan user should be stronmg enough to either seal/capture or just Chibaku Tensei the Kyyubi.

Rinnegan is still stronger. You can act like a god with rinnegan, and you will look like a God