Rinnegan or Sharingan

[Mugiwara]

It is most feared mby cuz its better known?? I dont think many people know about rinnegan since only two people had it ;/

I fear abig angry dog much more than I fear an elephant, doesnt mean dog is stronger.

it is the most feared because all of its techs are cruel, for example, susano, seals the target away for all eternity, amaterasu, burns the target for 3 days, even if he died the first 5 min, tsukyumi (w/e ) tortures the target for 72 hours....

while rinnegan abilities: revives everyone, simply removes the targets soul, how noble.

 

[Kazamori]

Well that's right ... there was no such thing as Rinnegan clan

Uchiha were the only ones known, strongest and everyone feared them .

Just imagine Rinnegan against Uchiha clan...

lol...insane , each Rinnegan user could have 6 bodys , and 6 vs 1 ... loool death

 

[Mugiwara]

Well that's right ... there was no such thing as Rinnegan clan

Uchiha were the only ones known, strongest and everyone feared them .

Just imagine Rinnegan against Uchiha clan...

lol...insane , each Rinnegan user could have 6 bodys , and 6 vs 1 ... loool death

hehehe yea, the problem with rinnegan is, too few people have it, 1 every generation or?

 

[Steinbiz]

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Rinnegan is the strongest eye technique. There is no need to speculate which one is better, Kishi spelled it out for us.

exactly what he said. do we even need to break out the "onemanga" pictures where kishi WROTE IT DOWN?!!??!?!

 

[Kazamori]

hehehe yea, the problem with rinnegan is, too few people have it, 1 every generation or?

I think it's more rarely =(

There was 1st ( founder of ninja arts ) and Nagato I think ... so there's huge time skip between them , but who knows

 

[Mighty Curtain Messiah]

yes there were only 2 people who had the Rinnegan.
So shut!

 

[leafeater]

Rinnegan was never stated to be the strongest. It was stated to be the most revered. Whereas Sharingan was said to be the most feared doujutsu(including rinnegan).

Amaterasu does not need hand seals.

And the logic in this forum is quite hilarious. Even though people believed that Itachi is stronger than Pain, they voted that Rinnegn\an i stronger than Sharingan. I mean wtf? An ill Itachi with a weaker doujutsu is stronger than Pain? WOW. And they say i am an Uchihatard...

Please don't worry about the data book. If the data book is just as accurate as the manga, then the data should originate from there. Please show me from the manga, it's much more convincing. You also don't provide links to the appropriate areas of the data book. I hear arguments in here provided by people that at least refer to the manga, and that's the forum we're in.

I'm not holding you to any other standard than I hold others. You don't have to give me issue and page so long as you know approximately when it happened and where so it can be verified.

Arguments need to be capable of being proven wrong, that's my standard. For me, the proof is in the manga.

Regarding the poll, unless you know that the same people are voting in opposite directions, that really doesn't mean anything.

Peace,

 

[Avani]

Rinnegan was never stated to be the strongest. It was stated to be the most revered. Whereas Sharingan was said to be the most feared doujutsu(including rinnegan).

Show me the manga page, please? And don't forget to add the one where it says that sharingan was more feared than rinnegan.

And the logic in this forum is quite hilarious. Even though people believed that Itachi is stronger than Pain, they voted that Rinnegn\an i stronger than Sharingan. I mean wtf? An ill Itachi with a weaker doujutsu is stronger than Pain? WOW. And they say i am an Uchihatard...

What people? I don't believe Itachi was any stronger than Nagato, nor many others . There is no proof, only biased speculations by some. Don't word it like you are speaking about general consesus. And even if he would have been, that wouldn't prove sharingan to be better than rinnegan. You would be comparing the talents of the persons not the eye technique.

Sasuke was beaten by Haku. Didn't make sharigan less powerful- Just, that Haku was better fighter and could use his abilities better at the time.

Whole sharingan clan would have been dead in one shinera tensi. While you couldn't sneek in Amegakure without Nagato finding out about your existence. Jiraiya was located within minutes. Nagato's chakra rained 24 hours in the village.

the manga said rinnegan is the rarest not strongest some poeple need to check there eyes here>.>
if the "Rinnegan"is so great why is maddara stronger than pein?

I think some people need to learn reading first :

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Manga said rinnegan was the greatest and most powerful one.

Nagato was not half as sexy as Itachi or Sasuke, Doesn't mean that rinnegan was less powerful.

As for Madara and Pain, you are not comparing eye techniqe- you are comapring personalities of these two. I said it before Madara is certainly more cunning and more ambitious and greedy for power- that makes him more dangerous. But these qualities are not result of sharingan. They are Madara's personal strengh, independent of eye-tech.

And no, we cannot say Madara was more powerful than Pain. The relationship between the two is debateble as it is.

Madara failed to destroy Konoha even with the help of Kyuubi and his mangekyu sharingan. Nagato did it on his own. He was much older and experienced and Nagato was a kid before him.

The arrogance combined with willful blindness of some die hard fans may get on my nerve. So I'm out of this thread, before I lose my patience. May post If I see something resembling to logic and neutral disscussion. See you around.

 

[peaceful]

A powerful user can control Kuybi. Kuybi is stronger than Nagato i hear no argument for this so i guess it is settled. And do not tell me the shit that it is sealed inside Naruto because then i wil say that Nagato is dead. Also do not say tell me that Nagato used only one body because i wil say that it was only eight tails and half the power because of yin and yang. And also the user that controls the kuybi will fight alonside.

 

[Typhon]

"Those eyes.....of the three great eye techniques, they are, without question, the most powerful."
-Jiraiya


I'm going to trust Kishi and Jiraiya on this one.....

 

[peaceful]

"Those eyes.....of the three great eye techniques, they are, without question, the most powerful."
-Jiraiya


I'm going to trust Kishi and Jiraiya on this one.....

Nine tails Kuybi>Nagato i am going to trust Databook and manga.

 

[Preta]

A powerful user can control Kuybi. Kuybi is stronger than Nagato i hear no argument for this so i guess it is settled. And do not tell me the shit that it is sealed inside Naruto because then i wil say that Nagato is dead. Also do not say tell me that Nagato used only one body because i wil say that it was only eight tails and half the power because of yin and yang. And also the user that controls the kuybi will fight alonside.

Hmm uhoh, the fox is stronger than nagato? Once again you are basing your Sharingan> Rinnegan argument off of a fight between people--in this case madara and nagato-- rather than basing it off the pinnacle of both techs. Nagato was not the pinnacle of Rinnegan power, infact according to himself he was only a shadow of what Rinnegan power could truly achieve, namely the sage and he was still very young by comparison. Yet again your desperation amazes me, you say fox> Nagato, I say hertical demon>Madara, and Nagato summoned the very creature that is sealing the Bijuu, so now what? And you know Rinnegan has some other little spices thrown in..like creating moons, controlling life and death, using all 6 nature types...you know, just the small stuff.

Until Kishi tells us otherwise, Rinnegan is the strongest doujustu, though it's not like he even needed to tell us, as no power has ever come near that seen in the Pain arc. No one is trying to belittle you, but in your desperation to make your Uchiha heroes the best, you are twisting words and facts, it is an annoyance. And for Christ's sake, put the databook down, I already showed why the data book is a book of poetry and has little to do with the manga, or do I need to start giving you those "Pain is an invincible god" quotes out of it again? So clearly if we follow databook, Pain>all because he's an invincible god, hello! Look where your logic has gotten you!

Next time you have no counter point for an argument, don't acknowledge that you read it, when you do so, you basically just tell everyone that you have no answer for it so you're going to run from it. Though your "flamebait," was hard to see through.

 

[Typhon]

Nine tails Kuybi>Nagato i am going to trust Databook and manga.

We never saw Full Power Nagato vs. Full Power Kyuubi so how can you say that? We saw and 8 tails half Kyuubi break out of a mediocre Chibuku Tensai. Nagato said he should have made it larger, which means he could of if he wanted to. On top of that he had no desire to kill Naruto/Kyuubi because he needed to capture it. Then directly after the 8 tails broke free, Naruto took control and resealed the Kyuubi.

1 v 1, Nagato vs. Kyuubi, was something we NEVER saw. We saw a weak Nagato, with 5 of his 6 paths destroyed, have one of his attacks, not at full power, and not meant to kill, be broken free from.


But okay, lets say for a second that we know for a fact a full power Nagato loses to a full power Kyuubi. What about the Sage of the Six Paths? The CREATOR OF NINJUTSU. Who wins there? Could the Kyuubi break free from a Chibuku Tensai the size of the moon?

Your basing your entire argument off of one Rinnegan user vs. the Kyuubi. This does NOT translate to Rinnegan vs. Sharingan.

 

[peaceful]

Hmm uhoh, the fox is stronger than nagato? Once again you are basing your Sharingan> Rinnegan argument off of a fight between people--in this case madara and nagato-- rather than basing it off the pinnacle of both techs.

Sharingan can control Kuybi. Like rinnegan the bodies.

Nagato was not the pinnacle of Rinnegan power, infact according to himself he was only a shadow of what Rinnegan power could truly achieve, namely the sage and he was still very young by comparison. Yet again your desperation amazes me, you say fox> Nagato,

Maybe. I want proof for the powers of Rikoudo however.
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say hertical demon>Madara, and Nagato summoned the very creature that is sealing the Bijuu, so now what?

Members are needed for the sealing of the weak bijuus let alone the nine tails. Madara can teleport so your argument is invalid.

And you know Rinnegan has some other little spices thrown in..like creating moons,

Susanoo, kamui etc.

controlling life and death

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Useless in a fight between two, a sharingan user and a rinnegan one.

using all 6 nature types...you know, just the small stuff.

Yes i know. Like being able to perieve the pattern of the enmeys attacks. Copy their attcks, cause confusion. Yes i know.

Until Kishi tells us otherwise, Rinnegan is the strongest doujustu, though it's not like he even needed to tell us, as no power has ever come near that seen in the Pain arc.

Kuybi is stronger than Nagato. This is what Kisi told me in chapter 1.

No one is trying to belittle you, but in your desperation to make your Uchiha heroes the best, you are twisting words and facts, it is an annoyance. And for Christ's sake, put the databook down, I already showed why the data book is a book of poetry and has little to do with the manga, or do I need to start giving you those "Pain is an invincible god" quotes out of it again?

Yes why not?

So clearly if we follow databook, Pain>all because he's an invincible god, hello! Look where your logic has gotten you!

No. You fail to understand what Kishi means by god... I will post a thread to make it understandable.

Next time you have no counter point for an argument, don't acknowledge that you read it, when you do so, you basically just tell everyone that you have no answer for it so you're going to run from it. Though your "flamebait," was hard to see through.

Flamebait.

 

[peaceful]

We never saw Full Power Nagato vs. Full Power Kyuubi so how can you say that? We saw and 8 tails half Kyuubi break out of a mediocre Chibuku Tensai. Nagato said he should have made it larger, which means he could of if he wanted to. On top of that he had no desire to kill Naruto/Kyuubi because he needed to capture it. Then directly after the 8 tails broke free, Naruto took control and resealed the Kyuubi.

1 v 1, Nagato vs. Kyuubi, was something we NEVER saw. We saw a weak Nagato, with 5 of his 6 paths destroyed, have one of his attacks, not at full power, and not meant to kill, be broken free from.


But okay, lets say for a second that we know for a fact a full power Nagato loses to a full power Kyuubi. What about the Sage of the Six Paths? The CREATOR OF NINJUTSU. Who wins there? Could the Kyuubi break free from a Chibuku Tensai the size of the moon?

Your basing your entire argument off of one Rinnegan user vs. the Kyuubi. This does NOT translate to Rinnegan vs. Sharingan.

You have a point there. But still you are comparing only kuybi with the rinnegan user, without taking into consideration the person who has ems and must be stronger than Nagato. So for example, Madara and Kuybi>>>>>>>nagato.

 

[Mugiwara]

Post a picture of kyuubi being stronger than nagato, last time i saw, it was only stronger than chibaku tensei, and the last time i checked, chibaku tensei wasnt the strongest ability of nagato, so you got no proof that nagato is weaker than kyuubi, first hokage beat kyuubi and madara, that doesnt make neither madara or kyuubi very strong, and when they fought, madara had EMS, and now he needs the kyuubi to restore his powers, his EMS.

 

[Steinbiz]

Nine tails Kuybi>Nagato i am going to trust Databook and manga.

HAHAHA omg peacefuls stupidity and denile strike again. jiraiya SAID, and written by KISHIMOTO,(which by the way peaceful, is the god damn creator and writer of the naruto series)"Those eyes.....of the three great eye techniques, they are, without question, the most powerful."

which means that byakugan, sharingan, mangekyou sharingan, eternal mangekyou sharingan are all weaker than the rinnegan.

lol, if you keep driving down the road of your "uchihas with MS are gods" theory. then it's clear denile and utmost stupidity in your illogical posts. and DON'T respond to me saying i didn't post logic myself. because you and everyone else on this website can't disagree with jiraiya's quote about the rinnegan. IT'S IN THE WORDS OF MASASHI KISHIMOTO!!!

 

[peaceful]

Post a picture of kyuubi being stronger than nagato, last time i saw, it was only stronger than chibaku tensei, and the last time i checked, chibaku tensei wasnt the strongest ability of nagato,

Yes it was. It was the only justu of his that could cope with a bijuu. There is a reason he insisted on using that even after he failed the first time.

so you got no proof that nagato is weaker than kyuubi,

The whole manga. Bijuu is steted to be the strongest creature in universe.

first hokage beat kyuubi and madara, that doesnt make neither madara or kyuubi very strong, and when they fought, madara had EMS,

There are many theories around this topic. So dont state like it is true that Madara lost to Shodai. Besides Shodais mokuton resstrained Kuybi. Show me a page where pain used Mokuton.

and now he needs the kyuubi to restore his powers, his EMS.

Speculation.

 

[-Naruto Uzumaki-]

I believe the Rinnegan is the strongest. U_U

 

[Typhon]

Yes it was. It was the only justu of his that could cope with a bijuu. There is a reason he insisted on using that even after he failed the first time.

The whole manga. Bijuu is steted to be the strongest creature in universe.

There are many theories around this topic. So dont state like it is true that Madara lost to Shodai. Besides Shodais mokuton resstrained Kuybi. Show me a page where pain used Mokuton.
and now he needs the kyuubi to restore his powers, his EMS.

Speculation.

The reason why he had to use Chibuku Tensai is because he didn't want to kill the Kyuubi.....he needed to capture it. Sealing it in a giant boulder was the most effective way of capturing it he could think of. And on top of that, he was limited to using the abilities of that Path alone. He was down to 1/6th of his techniques.