Rinnegan Obito VS Vote Madara

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Everything striked out is either a repeat of what was already addressed, or you just attempting to shit talk when you are known as one of biggest retards on this site.

2. It's close enough to the point where it can grab him.

3. Irrelevant. I said that it CAN extend. That panel is just proof of that.

Please counter MY argument instead of bringing irrelevant "inconsistencies" and crying about why my argument doesn't work. Lmfao. Retards stay grasping at straws no matter how many times Manga poops on their assertions. Explosion size and outright size comparisons disagree. Please get a real counter or get lost.
Getting angry are we?

2- Doesn't even make since to what im saying at all.

3- Claim debunked time and time again.

PS Blade and Kurama Bijuudama made the same size explosion as the others Bijuudama's thus your claim has been shitted on end result Madara gets wrecked in scene 2.
 

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Getting angry are we?

2- Doesn't even make since to what im saying at all.

3- Claim debunked time and time again.

PS Blade and Kurama Bijuudama made the same size explosion as the others Bijuudama's thus your claim has been shitted on end result Madara gets wrecked in scene 2.

2. If SS's hand is still large enough to grab Kurama, you have no point.

3. Not a counter.

The only PS Blade and Kurama BD that was shown exploding individually are the ones BEFORE SS came out. Not while SS was out. I don't know how many times I have to tell your slow ass this.

Madara shits on Obito in S1, and he mid-high diffs at best in S2. Period.
 

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2. If SS's hand is still large enough to grab Kurama, you have no point.

3. Not a counter.

The only PS Blade and Kurama BD that was shown exploding individually are the ones BEFORE SS came out. Not while SS was out. I don't know how many times I have to tell your slow ass this.

Madara shits on Obito in S1, and he mid-high diffs at best in S2. Period.
2- I never said SS hands weren't large enough to grab Kurama fool. SS hands were almost able to get around Kurama full body while in the face off SS hands were no where near that size thus is sign 1 of the inconsistencies in your terrible claim of Kurama's tbb size plus the ball form size means nothing when i already prove their ball form size doesn't determine the size of the explosion.

3- Yes it is a counter since it proves multiple times that theirs holes in your argument thus depending on that is completely faulty logic all together.

Doesn't matter show me a scan of those Bijuudama's explosions being any bigger than the one that missed Hashirama and landed on the island across the ocean?
 

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2- I never said SS hands weren't large enough to grab Kurama fool. SS hands were almost able to get around Kurama full body while in the face off SS hands were no where near that size thus is sign 1 of the inconsistencies in your terrible claim of Kurama's tbb size plus the ball form size means nothing when i already prove their ball form size doesn't determine the size of the explosion.

3- Yes it is a counter since it proves multiple times that theirs holes in your argument thus depending on that is completely faulty logic all together.

Doesn't matter show me a scan of those Bijuudama's explosions being any bigger than the one that missed Hashirama and landed on the island across the ocean?

2. Except if it can grab Kurama, then it is that size, and it can.

3. It's not. :lol Crying about "faulty logic" isn't a rebuttal.

Go read all my replies to EjBlack instead of repeating defeated arguments.
 

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2. Except if it can grab Kurama, then it is that size, and it can.

3. It's not. :lol Crying about "faulty logic" isn't a rebuttal.

Go read all my replies to EjBlack instead of repeating defeated arguments.
GIVE ME COUNTERS!!!!

You keep screaming read my replies i want counters cuhz.
 

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GIVE ME COUNTERS!!!!

You keep screaming read my replies i want counters cuhz.

I've given counters to everything you are saying and I don't feel like doing it again. Simple as that. When you can actually address the argument at hand instead of crying about all the other size inconsistencies in the Manga, please stop replying.
 

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I've given counters to everything you are saying and I don't feel like doing it again. Simple as that. When you can actually address the argument at hand instead of crying about all the other size inconsistencies in the Manga, please stop replying.
Im not crying about the size inconsistencies im pointing them out so you can realize that you posting scans of those Bijuudama's are irrelevant when other scans completely shitted on that.

Please post me a scan of those Bijuudama's used against SS being greater than a standard Bijuudama when they showed no superiority over them.
 

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Im not crying about the size inconsistencies im pointing them out so you can realize that you posting scans of those Bijuudama's are irrelevant when other scans completely shitted on that.

Please post me a scan of those Bijuudama's used against SS being greater than a standard Bijuudama when they showed no superiority over them.

Striked is something I've addressed too many times, and the rest has been addressed in my posts to EjBlack. End of story.
 

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Striked is something I've addressed too many times, and the rest has been addressed in my posts to EjBlack. End of story.
Quit responding if that's all your going to post simple.
 

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Kidgamer already explained this nonsense and even in the scan you posted his bijuu dama explosion is still well above those mountains and add that fact that its in the distance aswell its only makes this post that much worse.

No, it's not well above and it's not far in distance. They have equal width:

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So they are in equal size, meaning Kurama's standard TBB has a DC of destroying only one mountain like all Bijuu can.

Look again at the vote fight the scan kidgamer already posted.

That scan was a poor measurement, considering you can't see anything down when it's drawn from the skies. My scan gives a measurement.

Outer path stakes and chains are destroyed easy as hell even Madara's standard ps sword sliced through the chains while naruto blocked an outer path stake susanoo is amor so it protect kurama or bijuu dama vaporizes them aswell shit not going to work. All of the bijuu's charged bijuu dama combined fail to over power a flash bijuu dama Kurama can shoot 15 tbbs at a time with ps swords in them the bijuu are raped also number means nothing when they overpowered that simple 6 x 0 is still 0. They only reason your claiming anything beats Madara is because you casually hate on ems madara as he lost to Hashirama lets this been edo Madara i bet you would have said he won with low diff or some shit.

All of your premise would be invalid as Madara wouldn't start off with PS, and he has no knowledge of the Outer Path while his form is EMS in here. Plus, touching the chains would disturb his Chakra, so he can't afford doing that. @Bold: Your tears are delicious.

You also have no credibility anymore your the Madarator or Minator

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There is a difference between a mountain size semi-circle and a semi circle larger than mountains. Given that the two mountains in your scan were unaffected by it's blast it simply mean the explosion occurred some distance behind them and when it's height is taken from ground level it reveals that the Biju-Dama was larger than mountains. The eye examination you referenced my just be most beneficial if applied to self.

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The reason for semi circle is because Kishi can't perfect the drawing with too many natures surrounding each other. The picture is still clear. The mountains weren't effected because the explosion didn't have the range to take them out. There would be no distance when the scan gives none. Waltz, that is a poor measurement. Firstly, I never compared their height because I made it clear that the explosion is a circle-looked appearance. I was comparing their width.

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Madara can use 6 Bunshin's to assume control of the 6 Bijuu via the Sharingan and using his original body; blast them simultaneously with a Katana pinned Bijuu-Dama from the Kyuubi. Madara can prevent Obito from attempting to control the Kyuubi by simply making it close it's eyes and simply substitute them with his own as he maintains a complete control over the Kyuubi. If you were referring the the Kuchiyose; Obito can no longer do so as Minato nullified his summoning contract with the Kyuubi.

@Bold: Not happening when the 6 Bijuu are connected to the Outer Path and plus are put under Sharingan: Genjutsu. Plus, there are no legit sense that the clones can control Bijuu through Sharingan: Genjutsu, while the original is heavily focusing on controlling one Bijuu. So the bold is never going to happen.

@Underlined: Given that each Bijuu is fast enough to dodge them, but also disturb its ratio by repelling it with its TBB, then that attack fails as well.

@Italic: Then Kurama won't be able to fight with its eyes closed. Plus, controlling it can be achieved by the Rinnegan, so no need for Sharingan.
 

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1. Madara is more skilled
2. Madara is more intelligent
3. Madara has more fire power dispite all 6 bijuu's
4. Madara PS + kyubi > GG
5. s2 madada PS GG
 

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The only reason you saying this is because Minato is your fav and he beat Obito. Considering this Obito stomps base Minato your fanboying makes no sense

Can Obito beat Juubi?

Not even how kamui works for one and he's not touching shit with susanoo activated.

1 or 2 clones are enough Obito warps 1 in its game that simple he gets destroyed in the kamui world and on the outside world.


Juubi jin Madara had no problems with that fodder ability nb4 Madara reached through him thats a simple reach nothing serious kurama has enough fire to bypass his five limit range add the fact that his clones would force obito to warp one of them its a murk


Madara wins both

Minato vs obito is for another thread... don't drag that in here...
obito beat jubi in cannon... weren't you reading manga at the time?
obito ain't touching madara in susano and madara will touch him with kamui activated... don't make me laugh... susano can be teleported entirely 1st of all with kamui and obito has reserves to do so... 2ndly theoretically obito can teleport within it as there is space in between it... 3rdly madara can't hold susano long enough to outlast obito... obito too has senju dna and excellent reserves while this is EMS madara...
how does kurama's firepower bypass his kamui limit? to bypass that obito needs to stay intangible for 5 continuous minutes... and no matter what kurama does obito can bypass that... u remember konan removed water from underneath obito so that he can't go underwater or underground... it's hilarious really to think kurama can bypass kamui... :D
madara reacted to that fodder ability? well he was jubi's jin so it should be obvious that he could have but EMS madara? lol madara had to actually think n plan his moves against kamui and still failed to stop obito from going in kamuiland... i guess that didn't ended up as a problem, did it? XD
finally the point i saved for the last... 2,3 clones means less susano time as chakra is divided... and without susano obito murks clones with mokuton... heck he has rinnegan here so clones without susano don't even deserve to be kamuid... 1st of all it takes enormous amount of chakra to actually stay alive in someone else's dimension but lets say madara's clone is kamuid which sounds dumb if obito knows its a clone as there would be other madara's in field... what stops obito from going in kamuiland and destroying clone 1st? and what is madara's counter to kamui actually? i mean he can't react, can't evade, can't get out... what? it's one touch n game over... jus like i said in my 1st post..
@Bold: Why not? I'll address the red below.


@Red for both: All Madara needs to do is utilize the Kyuubi's abilities to bombard Obito with 10 minutes worth of explosions similarly as he did against Shin-Shuusenju which would either force Obito to completely sacrifice Kamui for Izanagi or accept death. If he sacrifices, Madara bombards him again and finishes him off.

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that has been addressed already as kurama cannot produce one minute worth of continuous explosions so what are you getting at? obito can walk while intangible, can get close to madara and will madara blow himself up then? i don't even know how to really reply to this... it's funny really... you guys really need to know how kamui works and obito's evasive abilities then you'd have never made this argument...
 
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You should change your name from Waltz to Lolz. Your post is a joke. I'll get this done quickly.

Makes no sense. Kaenjin burns things that make contact with hit's exterior, not interior. Susano'o will climb out.

Makes complete sense if we look at the manga-facts. The Gedo Mazo had gone berserk and to stop it's rampage [and to also protect it from Kakashi's Kamui] Obito locked it down with the Uchiha Kaenjin.

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The effect you thought the TBB had on the Kaenjin wasn't the destruction of it, it was merely in the process of reacting to the incoming TBB [similar to what it reacted to Hachibi's Punch]

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The Juubi just happen to break it open at the same time.

Also Susanoo climbing out of the barrier? If Gedo Mazo which was high on all 9 biiju chakra couldn't climb out of the Kaenjin then there's no way Madara's Kanseitai Susanoo could do it. And as long as VOTE Madara doesn't shown Juubi Level power, he's not braking the Kaenjin open U_U


You do know that 'Destruction incarnate' refers to the Katana swipes of Madara's Kanzentai Susano'o? Also, to address the reading comprehension here Madara stated that his sword swipes "Even rivals Bjuu" Denoting that his sword swipes expel such tremendous force that it could even affect entities such as the Bijuu. @Bold: Erm..no. The Biju Dama began destroying the barrier the moment it made contact:

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Lol another fail.

"My Susanoo is Destruction Incarnate" clearly differs from "The sword swipes of My Susanoo are called as Destruction Incarnate."

with this all of your points against Uchiha Kaenjin have turned redundant.



Once Madara creates Bunshin's Obito will not be able to differentiate between them and Madara's reflexes are far superior to Namikaze's. The moment Obito solidifies near Madara he'll react accordingly.

VOTE Madara doesn't even know what Kamui is, nor does he have any type of reflex against Kamui.

VOTE Madara's reflexes "far superior" to Minato's? This crap is prime example as to why PuppyDogGeneral was known as one of the biggest trolls of NB.



Oh really? Provide me a scan of Hashirama's, Minato's or Tobirama's base reflexes rivaling Madara's reflexes here [ -> ]and then when you're unable to; explain to me why Edo-Tensei Madara was able to pierce Hashirama (who's reflexes according to you are on par) with the chakra rods [ ]

@Bold: As they say, cool story.


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Madara clearly states that when he was alive he was below Tobirama is speed/reflexes. And because of some reason he's now better than them [Rinnegan + Hashirama's Sage Mode + Hashirama's Mokuton + Zetsu Enhancement]. VOTE Madara has none. In fact,


The RT Madara, alive version of Edo Madara, was way better than VOTE Madara,

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Now take All of this + the Juubi against a near dead Obito and what does Madara do? He fails U_U

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If Juubi Jin Madara couldn't land attack on Obito without a Kamui of his own, there's no way in hell VOTE Madara does U_U

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Commonly known irrelevant information does not alter anything here.

Agreed, but relevant information is commonly unknown, the reason it needs to be reminded with manga proof U_U

An amusing personal interpretation and assumptions. As I stated in my previous post All Madara needs to do is utilize the Kyuubi's abilities to bombard Obito with 10 minutes worth of explosions similarly as he did against Shin-Shuusenju which would either force Obito to completely sacrifice Kamui for Izanagi or accept death. If he sacrifices, Madara bombards him again and finishes him off.

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What a joke you are.

The full blitz attack from KCM Naruto [Speed confirmed above Raikage's v2] at almost point black range was reacted with a comfortable "teleportaion" and not by phasing.

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It needed Juubi Jin Madara's Godudama attack speed, a speed far far greater than Kurama TBB barrage, to prevent a "near dead" Obito from teleportation.

In other words your point is, as always, proven redundant.
 

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You should change your name from Waltz to Lolz. Your post is a joke. I'll get this done quickly.



Makes complete sense if we look at the manga-facts. The Gedo Mazo had gone berserk and to stop it's rampage [and to also protect it from Kakashi's Kamui] Obito locked it down with the Uchiha Kaenjin.

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The effect you thought the TBB had on the Kaenjin wasn't the destruction of it, it was merely in the process of reacting to the incoming TBB [similar to what it reacted to Hachibi's Punch]

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The Juubi just happen to break it open at the same time.

Also Susanoo climbing out of the barrier? If Gedo Mazo which was high on all 9 biiju chakra couldn't climb out of the Kaenjin then there's no way Madara's Kanseitai Susanoo could do it. And as long as VOTE Madara doesn't shown Juubi Level power, he's not braking the Kaenjin open U_U




Lol another fail.

"My Susanoo is Destruction Incarnate" clearly differs from "The sword swipes of My Susanoo are called as Destruction Incarnate."

with this all of your points against Uchiha Kaenjin have turned redundant.





VOTE Madara doesn't even know what Kamui is, nor does he have any type of reflex against Kamui.

VOTE Madara's reflexes "far superior" to Minato's? This crap is prime example as to why PuppyDogGeneral was known as one of the biggest trolls of NB.






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Madara clearly states that when he was alive he was below Tobirama is speed/reflexes. And because of some reason he's now better than them [Rinnegan + Hashirama's Sage Mode + Hashirama's Mokuton + Zetsu Enhancement]. VOTE Madara has none. In fact,


The RT Madara, alive version of Edo Madara, was way better than VOTE Madara,

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Now take All of this + the Juubi against a near dead Obito and what does Madara do? He fails U_U

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If Juubi Jin Madara couldn't land attack on Obito without a Kamui of his own, there's no way in hell VOTE Madara does U_U

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Agreed, but relevant information is commonly unknown, the reason it needs to be reminded with manga proof U_U



What a joke you are.

The full blitz attack from KCM Naruto [Speed confirmed above Raikage's v2] at almost point black range was reacted with a comfortable "teleportaion" and not by phasing.

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It needed Juubi Jin Madara's Godudama attack speed, a speed far far greater than Kurama TBB barrage, to prevent a "near dead" Obito from teleportation.

In other words your point is, as always, proven redundant.

Pointless. What is your proof that barrier is the same size as PS?
 
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