Rinnegan Obito VS Vote Madara

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Rinnegan Obito VS EMS Madara

Location: Uchiha Hideout
Distance: 100 meters
Restrictions: Absolutely None

Scenario 2: Madara doesn't have Kurama
 

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Madara destroys him. Obito can't seal Kurama in Gedo Mazou with Susanoo covering it. Kurama has better firepower than the other 8 Bijuu combined and is much more durable by itself and with Susanoo protecting it. Once Madara and Kurama kill the tailed beasts Obito himself gets gang banged by Madara in CQC through the use of shadow clones or izanagi to gang bang him when he materializes to warp Madara.
 

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Madara wins scenario 1. Loses 2.

Edit:I think Madara can take Scenario 2 as well.
 
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PS>Gedo and 9 Bijuu.

Madara>Obito.
 

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They take turns stomping each other.
 

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Madara wins both scenarios.
 

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How? Madara without Kurama gets wrecking by Rinnegan Obito with bijuu.

What good are the Biju here? They are absolutely incapable of replicating the same damage output as full Kurama's 12 TBB barrage and Chojo Kebetsu, which what was required to destroy PS.

Before they even get close to building up that much collective damage they get pulverized by PS shockwaves, hell, they may even get there Bijuudama blown up directly in their vicinity with sideway or 360 degree slash. Madara wrecks Obito with Shadow Clone feints.
 

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What good are the Biju here? They are absolutely incapable of replicating the same damage output as full Kurama's 12 TBB barrage and Chojo Kebetsu, which what was required to destroy PS.

Before they even get close to building up that much collective damage they get pulverized by PS shockwaves, hell, they may even get there Bijuudama blown up directly in their vicinity with sideway or 360 degree slash.
Bruhhhhhh PS shockwaves are going to be completely useless here when Obito can warp 3 of 6 of the bijuu(They'll be in their v2 forms when he warps them) and then warp above ps Once the ones from above shoot a Bijuudama the ground based bijuu shoot a bijuudama barrage. He not blocking both. Plus what stops Obito from entering Susanoo via kamui?
 

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Bruhhhhhh PS shockwaves are going to be completely useless here when Obito can warp 3 of 6 of the bijuu(They'll be in their v2 forms when he warps them) and then warp above ps
Warp above PS and do what exactly? If they can't output equivalent damage as full Kurama, warping above them is completely irrelavant, they scratch PS, that's about it.
Once the ones from above shoot a Bijuudama the ground based bijuu shoot a bijuudama barrage. He not blocking both.
Are you implying in your own statement he could in fact block one of the assaults? It took all 6 Biju to match Naruto's singular Flash Bijudama, their puny DC is not helping when it comes to a battle of this scale, they would need serious collective damage to defeat Madara, something they won't achieve as they get smashed repeatedly.
Plus what stops Obito from entering Susanoo via kamui?
Susano'o is a physical manifestation of ones chakra, he cannot simply solidify his person in something that is solid... Not to mention the fact that solidifying in his Susano'o does him zero good, when Madara can just use a bunshin to stomp him.
 
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Warp above PS and do what exactly? If they can't output equivalent damage as full Kurama, warping above them is completely irrelavant, they scratch PS,
Warp above Ps and bomb it with mountain buster TBB's that will leave way more than a scratch.

that's about it. Are you implying in your own statement he could in fact block one of the assaults? It took all 6 Biju to match Naruto's singular Flash Bijudama, their puny DC is not helping when it comes to a battle of this scale,
Mountain level DC is puny? Ps DC clocks out at around mountain level so how is multiple mountain level attacks not hurting PS?

they would need serious collective damage to defeat Madara, something they won't achieve as they get smashed repeatedly.
Well let's see here there's 6 Bijuu if each of them were to shoot a Bijuudama barrage thar would be a total of 24 mountain buster attacks hitting his ps which would result in it being destroyed right along with Madara.


Susano'o is a physical manifestation of ones chakra, he cannot simply solidify his person in something that is solid... Not to mention the fact that solidifying in his Susano'o does him zero good, when Madara can just use a bunshin to stomp him.
Fair point ill leave that argument to the birds.
 

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Warp above Ps and bomb it with mountain buster TBB's that will leave way more than a scratch.
Addressed.


Mountain level DC is puny? Ps DC clocks out at around mountain level so how is multiple mountain level attacks not hurting PS?
Addressed multiple times.


Well let's see here there's 6 Bijuu if each of them were to shoot a Bijuudama barrage thar would be a total of 24 mountain buster attacks
First and foremost, Madara will be constanly attacking the ground based Biju, you think he would sit there and let them pull off a strategical offensive knowing full and well of what they are capable of? No. They won't even get a chance to bust off all their TBB. Madara can just vouch to destroy the oncoming ground based TBB's and prematurely destroy them with PS shockwaves, which will cause a chain reaction. They get blown to shit by their own TBB.

Even if all 24 did connect (which they won't), Six Biju shot off 6 FULLY charged Bijudama and could only match 50% Kurama's singular Flash TBB, it took the combined force of 12 TBB from Full Kurama AND Chojo Kebetsu to destroy PS, just partially, not even killing Madara in the process. Please keep note that SS's hands are capable of slapping away Bijuudama's, hence the reason blades were needed imbued inside them, that's just a testament to it's physical power.
 
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Even if all 24 did connect (which they won't), Six Biju shot off 6 FULLY charged Bijudama and could only match 50% Kurama's singular Flash TBB, it took the combined force of 12 TBB from Full Kurama AND Chojo Kebetsu to destroy PS, just partially, not even killing Madara in the process. Please keep note that SS's hands are capable of slapping away Bijuudama's, hence the reason blades were needed imbued inside them, that's just a testament to it's physical power.
Lol no. It was jus Chojo
 

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Lol no. It was jus Chojo
Lol, explosion encompassed that entire area, what are you talking about? They weren't directly into PS, but that wasn't solely Chojo, it did in fact take the force of both the Bijudama and SS.
 
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First and foremost, Madara will be constanly attacking the ground based Biju, you think he would sit there and let them pull off a strategical offensive knowing full and well of what they are capable of? No. They won't even get a chance to bust off all their TBB. Madara can just vouch to destroy the oncoming ground based TBB's and prematurely destroy them with PS shockwaves, which will cause a chain reaction. They get blown to shit by their own TBB.
No he won't because once his Ps is bombed from the skies via 12 Bijuudama's it will not be standing thus the ground based Bijuu then take their chance and shoot their bijuudamas to deliver the finishing blow. It doesn't matter what he tries to do he isn't countering them from above and from the ground simple. No the TBB's will be far from the Bijuu by the time this happens so failed plan.

Even if all 24 did connect (which they won't), Six Biju shot off 6 FULLY charged Bijudama and could only match 50% Kurama's singular Flash TBB, it took the combined force of 12 TBB from Full Kurama AND Chojo Kebetsu to destroy PS, just partially, not even killing Madara in the process. Please keep note that SS's hands are capable of slapping away Bijuudama's, hence the reason blades were needed imbued inside them, that's just a testament to it's physical power.
If 24 Bijuudama's hit Madara Ps their will be no Madara or Ps simple. Madara didn't tank the full force of those TBB's seeing as SS towers over the PS Kurama fusion thus shielding it from the exploding tbb's seen as they flew right past Madara Kyuubi Susanoo fusion. So no they won't need to match that level of dc clown. Also what makes you think that a Flash Bijuudama isn't tiers above full Kurama average Bijuudama which was shown to be only mountain level just like the other Bijuu Bijuudama's? Dosen't matter once Madara Ps is knocked down the Bijuudama assault begins.
 
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Lol, explosion encompassed that entire area, what are you talking about? They weren't directly into PS, but that wasn't solely Chojo, it did in fact take the force of both the Bijudama and SS.

The TBB hit SS. Not PS
Madaras PS was completely intact during the time the TBB were destroying chojos hands
And it was only the remaining hands of SS that ended up pulverizing PS

>Chojo gets hit by barrage of PS-TBB
>Chojo loses some of its hands during the time it gets to madaras PS which is completely fine during this interval
>Madaras PS gets hit by Chojo and then gets removed


The explosion argument doesn't hold much weight when madaras PS wasn't getting hit by his own TBB
 

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Madara stomps round 1 and wins barely round 2.
 

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Madara wins both

@Kifflom we've seen how big a standard bijuu dama explosion is

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this is from gyuki full kurama's tbb would be larger then that 12 or 15 of those going off means his perfect susanoo was caught in the explosion fact he does not need to be hit with a bijuu dama directly to feel its power
 

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No he won't because once his Ps is bombed from the skies via 12 Bijuudama's it will not be standing thus the ground based Bijuu then take their chance and shoot their bijuudamas to deliver the finishing blow. It doesn't matter what he tries to do he isn't countering them from above and from the ground simple. No the TBB's will be far from the Bijuu by the time this happens so failed plan.


If 24 Bijuudama's hit Madara Ps their will be no Madara or Ps simple. Madara didn't tank the full force of those TBB's seeing as SS towers over the PS Kurama fusion thus shielding it from the exploding tbb's seen as they flew right past Madara Kyuubi Susanoo fusion. So no they won't need to match that level of dc clown. Also what makes you think that a Flash Bijuudama isn't tiers above full Kurama average Bijuudama which was shown to be only mountain level just like the other Bijuu Bijuudama's? Dosen't matter once Madara Ps is knocked down the Bijuudama assault begins.

:lol @ the notion that the Bijuu can fire off Continuous Bijuu Dama. All I ask is: Where are the feats? Not like 24 Bijuu Dama size will destroy PS when it was in the combined blast of Chojo Kebutsu and 12 BD that were size.

How in the world will he be bombed from the sky when only one Bijuu can fly? And it's not fast enough to get out of his range. Not to mention DB says all PS can fly, but that's another story and if you don't believe it I won't try and argue it due to a lack of feats. Though PS obliterates the Bijuu. Their power caps at a BD equal to Naruto's Flash BD, which won't even do major damage to PS. He tanks their attacks and swings his blades a few times and cuts them apart.

Even if it were just Chojo Kebutsu that destroyed PS, it'd still be stronger than 24 tiny BD from these Bijuu.

The TBB hit SS. Not PS
Madaras PS was completely intact during the time the TBB were destroying chojos hands
And it was only the remaining hands of SS that ended up pulverizing PS

>Chojo gets hit by barrage of PS-TBB
>Chojo loses some of its hands during the time it gets to madaras PS which is completely fine during this interval
>Madaras PS gets hit by Chojo and then gets removed


The explosion argument doesn't hold much weight when madaras PS wasn't getting hit by his own TBB

Saying that Madara's PS didn't take damage from the Bijuu Dama assault makes zero sense since he was in the center of the combined giant explosion. Unless you think that Naruto and Sasuke didn't take damage from PS and Bijuu Dama, and that they didn't take damage from Indra's Arrow AND TBBFRS.
 
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