Rinnegan Obito VS Vote Madara

[TheSages456]

madaras PS left him unharmed from chojo kebetsu and also left him unharmed from the power of 4 super ten tails bijudamas.
none of the biju are doing any substantial damage to it even with their strongest combined bijudama.

all of the biju, as well as the gedo mazo are sliced apart by PS.

obito doesnt actually have the speed to touch madara in cqc. madara eventually kills him.

 

[Unorthodox]

Obito loses this and i would say majority agree

 

[Zexion~]

uchiha again :| Madara wins mid diff and lml at Obito ever winning. u_u

 

[Brother Numpsay]

I dont know why people are arguing 100% Kurama has a bigger and stronger tbb. Its standard TBB hasn't shown to be more then busting mountains, plus the fact that I am seeing inconsistent scaling of the "ball" itself. Then again scaling Kurama compare to Naruto's ends up being an argument where no one wins.

Unless I see Kurama explosion doing more then what other Buijuu's are capable of then I sticking to what the feats show.

 

[TRE MERCER]

:lol @ the notion that the Bijuu can fire off Continuous Bijuu Dama. All I ask is: Where are the feats? Not like 24 Bijuu Dama

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size will destroy PS when it was in the combined blast of Chojo Kebutsu and 12 BD that were

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size.

So wait other Bijuu's can't shoot continuous tbb's? Grasping at straws. Irrelevant scan.

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were still as huge as Hachibi

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. So that's irrelevant. Plus there's always size inconsistencies as shown

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Naruto is literally like half the size of the Kurama head in your scan and with the scan i just showed he's atleast 4x smaller so gtfoh. Same recycled argument Blunt used and was completely pooped on with.​

How in the world will he be bombed from the sky when only one Bijuu can fly? And it's not fast enough to get out of his range. Not to mention DB says all PS can fly, but that's another story and if you don't believe it I won't try and argue it due to a lack of feats. Though PS obliterates the Bijuu. Their power caps at a BD equal to Naruto's Flash BD, which won't even do major damage to PS. He tanks their attacks and swings his blades a few times and cuts them apart.

Read post 10. A flash Bijuudama won't do major damage to Madara's Ps but you claimed in Adult Sasuke vs Minato thread a flash bijuudama would one shot Sasuke ps that you said could still have Madara ps feats and it'll still be blown to pierces quit contradicting yourself. Cool stuff bro but no.​

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[KidGamer65]

I dont know why people are arguing 100% Kurama has a bigger and stronger tbb. Its standard TBB hasn't shown to be more then busting mountains, plus the fact that I am seeing inconsistent scaling of the "ball" itself. Then again scaling Kurama compare to Naruto's ends up being an argument where no one wins.

Unless I see Kurama explosion doing more then what other Buijuu's are capable of then I sticking to what the feats show.

All I read is "I don't want to face Manga fact, so I will stick with my own flawed and incorrect opinion".

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That is far larger than any Mountain, as no singular Mountain surrounding that area is the same size as the blast. Then there's the fact that you can compare Hachibi to his blast and then compare the surroundings to Kurama and compare those surroundings to the BD explosion.

Lmao. Not sure where this "It is the same" BS is coming from when that scan doesn't even give you the room to argue that it does.

So wait other Bijuu's can't shoot continuous tbb's? Grasping at straws. Irrelevant scan.

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were still as huge as Hachibi

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. So that's irrelevant. Plus there's always size inconsistencies as shown

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Naruto is literally like half the size of the Kurama head in your scan and with the scan i just showed he's atleast 4x smaller so gtfoh. Same recycled argument Blunt used and was completely pooped on with.​

Nope. Get me the feats or drop the point. The rest is:

1. Irrelevant.
2. Doesn't counter the argument.
3. Your petty attempt at discreditng the argument because you have no counter.

Especially since those are scans of Kurama inconsistencies. Irrelevant to Bijuu Dama comparisons. Get that bullshit out of here. Not to mention it's common sense that Full Kurama's standard would be larger as it's larger than the other Bijuu, or are you and EjBlack going to deny that because...well, for the lulz too?

Read post 10. A flash Bijuudama won't do major damage to Madara's Ps but you claimed in Adult Sasuke vs Minato thread a flash bijuudama would one shot Sasuke ps that you said could still have Madara ps feats and it'll still be blown to pierces quit contradicting yourself. Cool stuff bro but no.​

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LMFAO. When a fan is caught lying.

Post 1 where I use EMS Sasuke's PS's feats.

Minato eats him for breakfast. He's basically EMS Sasuke w/ Rinnegan if he has no Rikudo Chakra. Ameno is nice and all, but it's useless when he himself is slower than Minato, who can also teleport. Not to mention it's useless when Minato has his Avatar up, since Sasuke has no attack that'd do any serious damage to him while Bijuu Dama from BSM Minato would do heavy damage if charged.

One shotted? :lol. Comparing Madara to Sasuke? :lol

At the very best it'd be as strong as EMS Madara's, and even then there's no proof that it is. EMS Madara can handle regular Bijuu Dama from Minato, but anything larger than that starts to do damage, and a Senjutsu enhanced Flash Bijuu Dama does moderate damage. 2-3 of those and his Susanoo is finished. In the meanwhile, he can't even hurt Minato that badly due to Senjutsu enhanced Kurama Avatar.

One shotted? Oh wait.....TRE MERCER couldn't read even if his life depended on it. Not to mention that was a Senjutsu Flash BD which is>>Flash BD from the Bijuu as they lack Senjutsu.

Yes. I agree that regular Bijuu Dama is tanked by Sasuke's Susanoo. Flash Bijuu Dama alone isn't doing "slight" damage. Let alone with Senjutsu. We already saw what a regular RSM Bijuu Dama and equal Chidori did to Sasuke's Susanoo at VoTE. Downscale and you get EMS Sasuke. Flash Bijuu Dama would do much more damage, and Senjutsu Flash BD would do even more. What Sasuke took at VoTE was low end moderate damage. What he would take from Minato's BD is high end moderate damage. Upscale to EMS Madara's Susanoo and the damage would still be moderate, but nowhere near as bad as it was for EMS Sasuke's. So yeah, it won't smash it, but more than one will smash it.

Oh wait, what's that I read? Me saying that Sasuke's Susanoo doesn't even get one shotted by a Senjutsu Flash BD let alone Madara's.

Off my jock. Not sure how many times I have to tell you this.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

All I read is "I don't want to face Manga fact, so I will stick with my own flawed and incorrect opinion".

Lol ok. Hope you can read it properly next time.

That is far larger than any Mountain, as no singular Mountain surrounding that area is the same size as the blast.

Where is your evidence that the mountain range surrounded area is larger then a single mountain range? And in what scale are you using that shows that TBB being the same as a non-singular mountain range?

Then there's the fact that you can compare Hachibi to his blast and then compare the surroundings to Kurama and compare those surroundings to the BD explosion.

Ok? And none the the comparison show 100Kurama being bigger.

Lmao. Not sure where this "It is the same" BS is coming from when that scan doesn't even give you the room to argue that it does.

I didnt even bring any scans, I have no idea what your talking about. If I were, I would of simply use the very scan you cropped or a better one, which 100Kurama TBB was closer to mountains[

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[KidGamer65]

Where is your evidence that the mountain range surrounded area is larger then a single mountain range? And in what scale are you using that shows that TBB being the same as a non-singular mountain range?

Not even sure what you are saying here. But you can clearly see that the Mountains that were around their battle are not as large. What you see is nothing but the view given when Mountains are clustered together.

Ok? And none the the comparison show 100Kurama being bigger.

Irrelevant because that is not what we are comparing.

I didnt even bring any scans, I have no idea what your talking about. If I were, I would of simply use the very scan you cropped or a better one, which 100Kurama TBB was closer to mountains[

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I'm obviously talking about the scan as in the scan I just posted. Never said you posted a scan. And that explosion is larger than what Continuous BD does individually by far.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Not even sure what you are saying here. But you can clearly see that the Mountains that were around their battle are not as large.What you see is nothing but the view given when Mountains are clustered together.

The mountains in your cropped pic shows that if that tbb were to hit it, it would make the same crater as if any standard tbb were to make against it. Where are you getting that the tbb is any bigger from that.

Irrelevant because that is not what we are comparing.

We arent comparing explosion scaling?

I'm obviously talking about the scan as in the scan I just posted.

Oh. Well Im trying to figure out how you got to the conclusion on how this tbb was far larger then mountain range.

 

[KidGamer65]

The mountains in your cropped pic shows that if that tbb were to hit it, it would make the same crater as if any standard tbb were to make against it. Where are you getting that the tbb is any bigger from that.




We arent comparing explosion scaling?



Oh. Well Im trying to figure out how you got to the conclusion on how this tbb was far larger then mountain range.

You can only see clusters of Mountains together, either that or you can't see any at all, but considering there are Mountains near that area, the fact that they are clustered together like that means that the explosion in comparison isn't the same size as a regular one. My evidence for it being larger isn't the scan. It's that the ball is bigger.

No, we are. We aren't comparing Full Kurama to Hachibi or regular Kurama. Whether or not they are the same size is irrelevant, but Kurama is factually larger than Half Kurama so even if we were arguing that you'd be 100% wrong, again.

Never said it was larger than a Mountain range. :lol

 

[Brother Numpsay]

You can only see clusters of Mountains together, either that or you can't see any at all, but considering there are Mountains near that area, the fact that they are clustered together like that means that the explosion in comparison isn't the same size as a regular one. My evidence for it being larger isn't the scan. It's that the ball is bigger.

Arguing wither the ball is bigger or not is irrelevant (as I told your Kurama scaling is impossible get right). If it was bigger ball then it would have done more then other Buijuu's standard tbb blast. But it didn't

Never said it was larger than a Mountain range. :lol

Then my point stands. 100Kurama tbb is mountain buster and isn't any different then other Buijuu's.

 

[TRE MERCER]

Nope. Get me the feats or drop the point. The rest is:

1. Irrelevant.
2. Doesn't counter the argument.
3. Your petty attempt at discreditng the argument because you have no counter.

Especially since those are scans of Kurama inconsistencies. Irrelevant to Bijuu Dama comparisons. Get that bullshit out of here. Not to mention it's common sense that Full Kurama's standard would be larger as it's larger than the other Bijuu, or are you and EjBlack going to deny that because...well, for the lulz too?

So i assume the other v2 cloaks can't shoot bijuudama's either just because they didn't show this? Their bijuu their only offence is Bijuudama's it makes 0 since that Hachibi and Kurama would only be able to use a Bijuudama barrage but 1-7 can't that idiotic logic always seem to hit your post when you've said something stupid but just have to much pride to come back and admit that you were wrong. How are they irrelevant to the bijuudama when in the scan Kurama head seemed especially small?

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so your point? Thus your point is now completely moot.​

 

[Blunt]

Kifflom, KG already explained why what you are implying to be true is in fact false, I couldn't respond as I was traveling today.

 

[KidGamer65]

Arguing wither the ball is bigger or not is irrelevant (as I told your Kurama scaling is impossible get right). If it was bigger ball then it would have done more then other Buijuu's standard tbb blast. But it didn't



Then my point stands. 100Kurama tbb is mountain buster and isn't any different then other Buijuu's.

Stop referencing Kurama scaling when Kurama's size is completely irrelevant to the scaling.

Nothing you have posted changes anything I said as it does not prove that Full Kurama BD=Other Bijuu's continuous BD in size. All you have proven is that the explosion for Full Kurama's BD equals the explosions of the BD used by 2-7, which are in turn larger than the individual Continuous BDs used by BM Naruto and Hachibi. Nor does it prove that the BD barrage used against Shinsuusenju=Regular BD in individual size as you have zero explosion scans to compare them, which was my main point.

So no, your point does not stand nor are you right.

So i assume the other v2 cloaks can't shoot bijuudama's either just because they didn't show this? Their bijuu their only offence is Bijuudama's it makes 0 since that Hachibi and Kurama would only be able to use a Bijuudama barrage but 1-7 can't that idiotic logic always seem to hit your post when you've said something stupid but just have to much pride to come back and admit that you were wrong. How are they irrelevant to the bijuudama when in the scan Kurama head seemed especially small?

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so your point? Thus your point is now completely moot.​

Nope. They can't. :lol And Kurama's head being smaller is irrelevant to the scaling, because I am not comparing Kurama's head to the Bijuu Dama.

 

[TRE MERCER]

Nope. They can't. :lol And Kurama's head being smaller is irrelevant to the scaling, because I am not comparing Kurama's head to the Bijuu Dama.

Your comparing Naruto who is inside Kurama's head. Though in the scan i showed you Kurama's head was much smaller so if they try a bijuudama Naruto would look much smaller compared to that thus your scan is irrelevant via manga size inconsistentcies.​

 

[KidGamer65]

Your comparing Naruto who is inside Kurama's head. Though in the scan i showed you Kurama's head was much smaller so if they try a bijuudama Naruto would look much smaller compared to that thus your scan is irrelevant via manga size inconsistentcies.​

I'm comparing NARUTO. To the BIJUU DAMA. If Kurama's head was larger, Naruto and the BD would still be the same damn size.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Stop referencing Kurama scaling when Kurama's size is completely irrelevant to the scaling.

Its you that keeps bringing it up Lol.

Nothing you have posted changes anything I said as it does not prove that Full Kurama BD=Other Bijuu's continuous BD in size. All you have proven is that the explosion for Full Kurama's BD equals the explosions of the BD used by 2-7, which are in turn larger than the individual Continuous BDs used by BM Naruto and Hachibi. Nor does it prove that the BD barrage used against Shinsuusenju=Regular BD in individual size as you have zero explosion scans to compare them, which was my main point.

So no, your point does not stand nor are you right.

And now your mixing my points with Tre? Cause I have no idea what your talking about here. My first post wanted to make sure @Bold was clear. So the burden of proof goes to you to prove that 100 Kurama has a stronger tbb then 2-8. 100Kurama having a bigger ball would mean that it would have a bigger explosion, which we addressed is false.

 

[KidGamer65]

Its you that keeps bringing it up Lol.



And now your mixing my points with Tre? Cause I have no idea what your talking about here. My first post wanted to make sure @Bold was clear. So the burden of proof goes to you to prove that 100 Kurama has a stronger tbb then 2-8. 100Kurama having a bigger ball would mean that it would have a bigger explosion, which we addressed is false.

No, I referenced Kurama's size and compared to Hachibi. You are referencing Kurama's size in comparison to Half Kurama. Irrelevant.

Lmfao. Please read. I am the only one who mentioned anything about Full Kurama's BD and Half Kurama's BD. If you weren't referring to my specific post then you shouldn't have made a post to begin with. :lol

The rest is just you not being able to read. Stop using THIS as proof that

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is the same size as

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when there are comparisons that show that the ones used against SS are FAR larger than the regular standard, and the explosion size supports it too.

 

[TRE MERCER]

I'm comparing NARUTO. To the BIJUU DAMA. If Kurama's head was larger, Naruto and the BD would still be the same damn size.

Your dumb i said that comparison was flawed because it made it look like Naruto and the bijuudama was close in size due to how little Kurama head was and it doesn't matter the size of the bijuudama ball because the explosion was still the size as the semi charged ones.​

 

[KidGamer65]

Your dumb i said that comparison was flawed because it made it look like Naruto and the bijuudama was close in size due to how little Kurama head was and it doesn't matter the size of the bijuudama ball because the explosion was still the size as the semi charged ones.​

The size of Kurama's head has nothing to do with the size of Bijuu Dama. Stop trying to claim that it does because you sound ridiculous as all hell.