Rinnegan!(Clear Up)

[juzumaki]

he could have defended against it if we consider the fact that it no effect on black zetsu who is made out truth seeking orb. so naruto would have been able to cover himself with the truth seeking and he would have been fine.

it could also be that it doesnt affect people with rikudo chakra since hamura or hagoromo wasnt affected during the first IT

 

[SMX]

Some people think that rinnegan genjutsu is unbreakable unless by another rinnegan, this is false.

but it is true sasuke who has a rinnegan said it himself

 

[Venomous Cobra]

Sasuke's eye can operate like Kaguya's when he put the bijuu under his control the only logical way that I can see that it was possible was that he used either reflection of his eye on theirs or an area wide genjutsu. If the reflection is possible then the only question is whether Sasuke's eye is strong enough to reach the moon. (doubt it tbh)




The one done on Kurama was just a paralysis jutsu he still couldn't move. Sakura's was just to put her to sleep. In both instances the genjutsu accomplished its goals and just like IT Sasuke was able to steal the victim's chakra.

If Kurama could move he would have busted out like he did when he went eight tails.

In both cases it was described as "genjutsu" so......besides kurama wasn't "moving" he was just resisting so my point is that in that time both of them can kumi outta of the area but there's 1000000/500000 chance that he could kill them in the process :|

 

[ANiMUS]

he could have defended against it if we consider the fact that it no effect on black zetsu who is made out truth seeking orb. so naruto would have been able to cover himself with the truth seeking and he would have been fine.

it could also be that it doesnt affect people with rikudo chakra since hamura or hagoromo wasnt affected during the first IT

Um.........no. The rikudou chakra thing makes sense, but BZ isn't made from orbs just Kaguya's will.

 

[Michael]

Sasuke's eye can operate like Kaguya's when he put the bijuu under his control the only logical way that I can see that it was possible was that he used either reflection of his eye on theirs or an area wide genjutsu. If the reflection is possible then the only question is whether Sasuke's eye is strong enough to reach the moon. (doubt it tbh)

(Even if somehow Sasuke prepped and pull this off he still has to wait for the bud to bloom on the shinju, Naruto and friends ould sit idly by. IT is basically a Kaguya revival ritual, she is one with the shinju, once activated she would again reign just as she used madara. Sasuke is smart, he wouldnt even think of casting IT again.) - Lesula




The one done on Kurama was just a paralysis jutsu he still couldn't move. Sakura's was just to put her to sleep. In both instances the genjutsu accomplished its goals and just like IT Sasuke was able to steal the victim's chakra.

If Kurama could move he would have busted out like he did when he went eight tails.

Even so kurama wasn't completely effected as he could still speak freely to Naruto before being trapped in CB.

 

[ANiMUS]

In both cases it was described as "genjutsu" so......besides kurama wasn't "moving" he was just resisting so my point is that in that time both of them can kumi outta of the area but there's 1000000/500000 chance that he could kill them in the process :|

Even so kurama wasn't completely effected as he could still speak freely to Naruto before being trapped in CB.

No, Kurama still had the power to speak because Sasuke didn't take that away from him. He just made it so that Kurama couldn't move or use chakra. If Kurama was resisting there would have been some fight, but he just continued getting covered over. Besides think about it Kurama can't even get out of sharingan genjutsu do you really think that he is going to break out of Rinnegan genjutsu?

 

[Venomous Cobra]

but it is true sasuke who has a rinnegan said it himself

He said "probably" and has no experience with it whatsoever , therefore I wouldn't take his word to be 100% true

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[SMX]

He said "probably" and has no experience with it whatsoever , therefore I wouldn't take his word to be 100% true

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without his rinnegan everybody in infinite tsuki would've been screwed just sayin

 

[Venomous Cobra]

No, Kurama still had the power to speak because Sasuke didn't take that away from him. He just made it so that Kurama couldn't move or use chakra. If Kurama was resisting there would have been some fight, but he just continued getting covered over. Besides think about it Kurama can't even get out of sharingan genjutsu do you really think that he is going to break out of Rinnegan genjutsu?

Since when could he do that? It was described as genjutsu, and kurama didn't move cause he was getting inside the genjutsu, just like 14 years obito genjutsu, so my guess is rinngan genjutsu takes a fair amount of time to completely effect the victims so the the victim must do something before the end of the progress

This is just a theory, but my other thread is kinda legit

 

[Venomous Cobra]

without his rinnegan everybody in infinite tsuki would've been screwed just sayin

Agree but this is kinda off-topic

 

[ANiMUS]

Since when could he do that? It was described as genjutsu, and kurama didn't move cause he was getting inside the genjutsu, just like 14 years obito genjutsu, so my guess is rinngan genjutsu takes a fair amount of time to completely effect the victims so the the victim must do something before the end of the progress

This is just a theory, but my other thread is kinda legit

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Judging from the looks of it its the same as what happened when Madara cast it sleep is not imminent, but it still robs you of movement and the ability to use chakra.

Besides it doesn't take prolonged eye contact. Hagoromo said it happened in a glance.

 

[Michael]

Agree but this is kinda off-topic

Without Naruto,Sakura and Obito, sauke would've been screwed and dehydrated.

Sorry, quoted wrong person

 

[Retro Chaos]

Some people think that rinnegan genjutsu is unbreakable unless by another rinnegan, this is false.

Of course it is false - if it were true the Rinnegan would be far more OP than it already is lol

 

[SMX]

Without Naruto,Sakura and Obito, sauke would've been screwed and dehydrated.

Sorry, quoted wrong person

if kakashi would've let sasuke kill obito none of this would've happened wait better yet

if kakashi didn't kill rin none of this would've been a thought

 

[Michael]

Of course it is false - if it were true the Rinnegan would be far more OP than it already is lol

Yeah, i used to think sharingan was better than rinnegan but rinnegan has established its place as the superior doujutsu. Its very godly with epic techniques

 

[Venomous Cobra]

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Judging from the looks of it its the same as what happened when Madara cast it sleep is not imminent, but it still robs you of movement and the ability to use chakra.

Did hinata even talk oit loud? Or was it inside her head? And anyway if you saying that this also paralysis genjutsu then how come were they on a "dreams" aka illusions, nope bruh it was straight genjutsu and kurama showeed resistance to it , besides IT took alot of progress from having the light shined at them to covering them with the trees so Yeah their aren't many similarities between the 2 stioutions, and Yeah genjutsu in General disturbs the chakra but people with perfect/excellent chakra control can still use their chakra

 

[Venomous Cobra]

Without Naruto,Sakura and Obito, sauke would've been screwed and dehydrated.

Sorry, quoted wrong person

Yup i agree

 

[Torche]

Let me fetch le Viz scan. I will edit this post when found.

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There would be no need to state that otherwise. :|

 

[ANiMUS]

Did hinata even talk oit loud? Or was it inside her head? And anyway if you saying that this also paralysis genjutsu then how come were they on a "dreams" aka illusions, nope bruh it was straight genjutsu and kurama showeed resistance to it , besides IT took alot of progress from having the light shined at them to covering them with the trees so Yeah their aren't many similarities between the 2 stioutions, and Yeah genjutsu in General disturbs the chakra but people with perfect/excellent chakra control can still use their chakra

My point was that the genjutsu first stops your movement then puts you to sleep. Even if it does have a time delay Sasuke doesn't use prolonged eye contact. A simple glance and it is in effect. Even if you could magically kamui yourself away after being hit you would just continue to fall under the genjutsu.

Also, my point is that she was still conscious. The genjutsu's full purpose is to induce sleep yet you can't move from the time you are hit till you fall asleep.

 

[Venomous Cobra]

No, Kurama still had the power to speak because Sasuke didn't take that away from him. He just made it so that Kurama couldn't move or use chakra. If Kurama was resisting there would have been some fight, but he just continued getting covered over. Besides think about it Kurama can't even get out of sharingan genjutsu do you really think that he is going to break out of Rinnegan genjutsu?

No there's no possible way for kurama to break out of the genjutsu(except plot XD) but I am just pointing out his resistance