Rikodou Naruto's SM?

[The Demon Hawk]

Can anyone explain how Rikodou Naruto can use both SM and RSM despite only having Rikodou Senjutsu chakra? His possession of Rikodou Senjutsu chakra explains how he uses RSM (although RSM is still visually confusing since it looks like SM+BM without pigmentation even though there is no involvement of BM), but his usage of SM as an Adult is beyond me totally. And how does he attain them individually anyway? And how would his SM possibly compare to his RSM?

Rikodou Naruto's SM

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Naruto's RSM

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[Gerkak]

He can use it because he doesn't always have rikudo senjutsu chakra flowing through him, he has to activate it. Therefore in base he can choose to use any of the modes he possesses: KCM, BM, BSM, SM, RSM and even version 1 and version 2 jinchuriki modes

SM is an inferior mode to RSM he just used it because he didn't need RSM or anything else higher than SM

 

[The Demon Hawk]

He can use it because he doesn't always have rikudo senjutsu chakra flowing through him, he has to activate it. Therefore in baase he can choose to use any of the modes he possesses: KCM, BM, BSM, SM, RSM and even version 1 and version 2 jinchuriki modes

SM is an inferior mode to RSM he just used it because he didn't need RSM or anything else higher than SM

I understand the rest of the post but @bold how is that supposed to work? BTW, having Rikodou Senjutsu chakra is different from activating it.

 

[rinnegan human puppet]

He can use it because he doesn't always have rikudo senjutsu chakra flowing through him, he has to activate it. Therefore in base he can choose to use any of the modes he possesses: KCM, BM, BSM, SM, RSM and even version 1 and version 2 jinchuriki modes

SM is an inferior mode to RSM he just used it because he didn't need RSM or anything else higher than SM

lol what

 

[Gerkak]

I understand the rest of the post but @bold how is that supposed to work? BTW, having Rikodou Senjutsu chakra is different from activating it.

Not in this case it seems, while naruto is always has access to rikudo chakra it isn't always affecting him. Perhaps it works similar to how he used to use his KCM in the early part of the war, rikudo senjutsu chakra being a different chakra source which he can access(to use RSM) but is independent of his base chakra.

lol what

That's not what I meant, what I meant was the chakra is activated by naruto voluntarily like he does all his other modes

 

[The Demon Hawk]

Not in this case it seems, while naruto is always has access to rikudo chakra it isn't always affecting him. Perhaps it works similar to how he used to use his KCM in the early part of the war, rikudo senjutsu chakra being a different chakra source which he can access(to use RSM) but is independent of his base chakra.



That's not what I meant, what I meant was the chakra is activated by naruto voluntarily like he does all his other modes

1. What chakra exactly is stored within Naruto? What did he receive from the Sage? The Six Paths Yang chakra or the Six Paths Senjutsu chakra? Or both?

2. So basically you're saying his RSM is more like an ability based mode?

 

[Opiuchus05]

Has he ever used rsm in base form without bijuu chakra after he did it the first time against madara when he kicked the gudodama

 

[The Demon Hawk]

Has he ever used rsm in base form without bijuu chakra after he did it the first time against madara when he kicked the gudodama

No. But that shouldn't matter because that is still RSM. It's just combined with some other mode.

 

[Gerkak]

1. What chakra exactly is stored within Naruto? What did he receive from the Sage? The Six Paths Yang chakra or the Six Paths Senjutsu chakra? Or both?

2. So basically you're saying his RSM is more like an ability based mode?

1. Six paths senjutsu chakra is stored inside him, that is what he recieved from the sage; power that resembles a juubi jinchuriki.

2. Yes RSM is activated in that manner similar to KCM, naruto always has the power inside him but he can switch it on and off.

This is just a theory, nothing concrete

 

[BlacLord™]

His Rikudou chakra remains stored away and inactive until he needs it. When he doesn't need that much power, he just uses his own chakra for TSM. It's important to distinguish between:

RSM - Rikudou senjutsu.
RSBM - Rikudou senjutsu, chakra of the nine tailed beasts.
RBSM - Rikudou chakra, natural energy and 100% Kurama.

 

[The Demon Hawk]

1. Six paths senjutsu chakra is stored inside him, that is what he recieved from the sage; power that resembles a juubi jinchuriki.

True. That's what I believe so.

2. Yes RSM is activated in that manner similar to KCM, naruto always has the power inside him but he can switch it on and off.

The difference is that KCM was another mode Naruto could access by drawing Kyuubi's chakra while he used his own chakra otherwise. But in RSM, that's the only chakra he has. So the main question is how can he access the same chakra in base, in SM and in RSM for three completely different modes?

This is just a theory, nothing concrete

Yeah, I understand. Nobody can say anything concrete on this. For this reason, most people won't even say anything. I'm looking for just one convincing answer to this question that would make complete sense and wouldn't contradict anything.

 

[Gerkak]

His Rikudou chakra remains stored away and inactive until he needs it. When he doesn't need that much power, he just uses his own chakra for TSM. It's important to distinguish between:

RSM - Rikudou senjutsu.
RSBM - Rikudou senjutsu, chakra of the nine tailed beasts.
RBSM - Rikudou chakra, natural energy and 100% Kurama.

Agreed =D

 

[The Demon Hawk]

His Rikudou chakra remains stored away and inactive until he needs it. When he doesn't need that much power, he just uses his own chakra for TSM.

If he retained his own chakra, then the answer to this question would be really easy. But now he has Rikodou chakra instead of his own chakra (proved by his base mode being empowered).

It's important to distinguish between:

RSM - Rikudou senjutsu.
RSBM - Rikudou senjutsu, chakra of the nine tailed beasts.
RBSM - Rikudou chakra, natural energy and 100% Kurama.

Those are self given terms, aren't they?

 

[Gerkak]

True. That's what I believe so.



The difference is that KCM was another mode Naruto could access by drawing Kyuubi's chakra while he used his own chakra otherwise. But in RSM, that's the only chakra he has. So the main question is how can he access the same chakra in base, in SM and in RSM for three completely different modes?



Yeah, I understand. Nobody can say anything concrete on this. For this reason, most people won't even say anything. I'm looking for just one convincing answer to this question that would make complete sense and wouldn't contradict anything.

I don't believe that naruto's base chakra was replaced with rikudo chakra rather the rikudo chakra is stored and is separate from his regular chakra, when he uses it he transforms into his RSM form. So with his base chakra he can enter SM as normal without needing to touch his rikudo chakra.

 

[Jokule67]

I understand the rest of the post but @bold how is that supposed to work? BTW, having Rikodou Senjutsu chakra is different from activating it.

Its like his nine tails power. He has to tap INTO that power. It is not always on or activated.

 

[Jokule67]

If he retained his own chakra, then the answer to this question would be really easy. But now he has Rikodou chakra instead of his own chakra (proved by his base mode being empowered).



Those are self given terms, aren't they?

That wasnt his base mode. Manga never sjowed his base mode being empowered. He was in RSM without actuvating Bijuu Cloak when he attacked Madara. Afterwards he merged his RSM with Kyuubi mode+9 bijuu chakra.

Its an easy concept there have been nonstop threads explaining this

 

[Jokule67]

True. That's what I believe so.



The difference is that KCM was another mode Naruto could access by drawing Kyuubi's chakra while he used his own chakra otherwise. But in RSM, that's the only chakra he has. So the main question is how can he access the same chakra in base, in SM and in RSM for three completely different modes?



Yeah, I understand. Nobody can say anything concrete on this. For this reason, most people won't even say anything. I'm looking for just one convincing answer to this question that would make complete sense and wouldn't contradict anything.

Thats not the only chakra he has. You have very wrong information man.

 

[Gerkak]

Thats not the only chakra he has. You have very wrong information man.

Don't triple post

 

[Jokule67]

Don't triple post

Dont know how to do anything else I'm on a phone

 

[The Demon Hawk]

I don't believe that naruto's base chakra was replaced with rikudo chakra rather the rikudo chakra is stored and is separate from his regular chakra, when he uses it he transforms into his RSM form. So with his base chakra he can enter SM as normal without needing to touch his rikudo chakra.

So what explains his base mode being empowered and him flying in The Last? Obviously, that can't be done without Rikodou chakra, which again implies that his BSM had Rikodou chakra involved.

Its like his nine tails power. He has to tap INTO that power. It is not always on or activated.

That I understand...

That wasnt his base mode. Manga never sjowed his base mode being empowered. He was in RSM without actuvating Bijuu Cloak when he attacked Madara. Afterwards he merged his RSM with Kyuubi mode+9 bijuu chakra.

It was shown to be empowered in The Last where he could throw FRS and that also like a guided missile. And his BSM (BM+SM) was shown to be capable of flight which couldn't happen with his own Ashura chakra. Obviously, Rikodou chakra was involved in the SM part of BSM.

Its an easy concept there have been nonstop threads explaining this

LOL, I don't look at things with that level of simplicity. The complex details are important to a considerable extent, aren't they?

Thats not the only chakra he has. You have very wrong information man.

It has nothing to do with my information. It wasn't stated or clarified anywhere. I'm only making judgement as logical as possible.