[Debate] Religion vs Athiest debate, (new stuff)

[Made in Heaven]

With all due respect, I don't see how that answers anything. Frankly, everything isn't the same.

I think he means to say all religions are right which, if he is, is honestly is dumb thing to even say.

 

[Fountain]

I'll be completely honest, I know there are people who say “Oh you shouldn't belive because it's not real” But the thing is, Wether something is real or not you are free and you have the freedom to belive what you want—And put your faith onto it, Because at the end of the day, It is your life anyways.

Respect, Respect to each-other is what we need. You're not religious? That's cool, Respect religion. You're religious? That's cool, Respect those who aren't and try to force them in.

 

[Da Best Ever]

no, its has basically like this.

Allah tells it to The angel Gabriel[Jibril in Arabic] and Gabriel teaches it to Muhammad until he has memorized it, and then the prophet teaches it to his followers, who then wrote it down as such

thats still says Muhammad is the source of it in a human perspective because its no different then Jesus saying/doing and St.Peter preaching it to everyone and then the follwers write it...the arc angel is comparable to Jesus for example in this post and St.Peter and Muhammed did the samething

 

[Made in Heaven]

thats still says Muhammad is the source of it in a human perspective because its no different then Jesus saying/doing and St.Peter preaching it to everyone and then the follwers write it...the arc angel is comparable to Jesus for example in this post and St.Peter and Muhammed did the samething

well of course Muhammad is the human source of the Qur'an ^_^" it was his message after all

 

[-immortal-]

i Now again remember why i dont like religion people

 

[KingHashirama]

i Now again remember why i dont like religion people

only about 2-3 people on the thread are truly religious... and seem to be more respectful than the ones who aren't..

 

[Made in Heaven]

i Now again remember why i dont like religion people

I certainly am okay with this.

 

[Made in Heaven]

only about 2-3 people on the thread are truly religious... and seem to be more respectful than the ones who aren't..

no offense, but I don't think it's right to say who's religious and who's not.

 

[-immortal-]

only about 2-3 people on the thread are truly religious... and seem to be more respectful than the ones who aren't..

because i guess people are to scared to go hard on thuse guys. or it will come of as an insult

I certainly am okay with this.

i know. i wasn't woried about your opinion anyways

 

[Fountain]

And don't* try to force them in.

Don't*

Fυсking failboard... Embarrassing >_>

 

[Made in Heaven]

because i guess people are to scared to go hard on thuse guys. or it will come of as an insult



i know. i wasn't woried about your opinion anyways

Yes, well that's font too I guess

 

[KingHashirama]

no offense, but I don't think it's right to say who's religious and who's not.

The difference is "truly " religious...

Even in the wolrd from 2 billions Christians.. hardly 20% of them are truly religious to the faith. And it wasn't something meant to offend you. I'm just saying from what i see in the thread, religious people here are quite respectful..

because i guess people are to scared to go hard on thuse guys. or it will come of as an insult



i know. i wasn't woried about your opinion anyways

Hmm, form what i have seen atheists get mad equally as a religious person.

 

[Made in Heaven]

The difference is "truly " religious...

Even in the wolrd from 2 billions Christians.. hardly 20% of them are truly religious to the faith. And it wasn't something meant to offend you. I'm just saying from what i see in the thread, religious people here are quite respectful..



Hmm, form what i have seen atheists get mad equally as a religious person.

yes, truly religious people are rare, but I guess it's because of the secular focused world we live in nowadays. Not to mention all the distractions and desires people face

 

[Da Best Ever]

u cant put any people together with different beliefs, its not going to end well because a common trait in humanity is hate...people hate what they dnt understand, we people dnt take the time to understand each other which is why we have problems amongst races and religions, we people think to highly of ourselves we think ourselves to be unruly which is why u have those who dnt believe in a higher being, because u cannot see something doesnt mean it isnt there


i simply think whatever being/force created life put us here and gave us free will...


the question comes up, why would something create life??? i think the simple answer to that is just because " it " can...

 

[Jobrjo]

Humanity > All religions.

Hindus and Muslims are the same.. Christians and sikhs are the same.... athiests and religious people are the same... meaning humanity is the same. We simply divide ourselves into groups and seek something that we are not sure of and debate and fight over different beliefs, instead of logically discussing them.

That was my response to the whole "1 truth" thing.

Ok I get you now. If humanity as a whole approached things from a logical standpoint... well one can only dream, as such simply isn't the state of the world.
But in regards to religion, at the end of the day, someone is right. And the answer affects humanity as a whole, both as a truth and how we act.
For example, if the atheist is right, then there are no morals. Things like emotions and logic actually don't exist and can't be explained in a purely physical world. It's all every man for himself, and someone like Hitler is on par with Martin Luther King Jr. Every man can do what is right in his own eyes. Every man is his own god. Additionally, the universe and it's intricate designs just cam out of no where, as did all the physical laws that work it.
But if the Bible is right, then there is an Almighty Creator who has made us and given us instructions. To cross those is to disobey God. Yet there is a route to forgiveness that he has given so that we don't have to suffer the consequences. He has reached His hand to humanity so that we may be saved. But rejecting the outreach -or worse being told to hold on to a falsehood instead of the truth- ends with the consequence of Hell.

Whichever one of these is right, or any other options, obviously will wholly effect how one would live their life. That is the importance.

I think he means to say all religions are right which, if he is, is honestly is dumb thing to even say.

He clarified above xD I misunderstood myself.

 

[Made in Heaven]

Seriously, aside from hazard, I am surprised at how well this as gone down

 

[Made in Heaven]

Ok I get you now. If humanity as a whole approached things from a logical standpoint... well one can only dream, as such simply isn't the state of the world.
But in regards to religion, at the end of the day, someone is right. And the answer affects humanity as a whole, both as a truth and how we act.
For example, if the atheist is right, then there are no morals. Things like emotions and logic actually don't exist and can't be explained in a purely physical world. It's all every man for himself, and someone like Hitler is on par with Martin Luther King Jr. Every man can do what is right in his own eyes. Every man is his own god. Additionally, the universe and it's intricate designs just cam out of no where, as did all the physical laws that work it.


He clarified above xD I misunderstood myself.

wow you sure are good at this

 

[KingHashirama]

yes, truly religious people are rare, but I guess it's because of the secular focused world we live in nowadays. Not to mention all the distractions and desires people face

Personally the world isn't the problem it is the people of the world. We read something but we do not sink in what it supports.I mean lets just take Naruto for example.. hardly anyone focuses on the message it gives..

Ok I get you now. If humanity as a whole approached things from a logical standpoint... well one can only dream, as such simply isn't the state of the world.
But in regards to religion, at the end of the day, someone is right. And the answer affects humanity as a whole, both as a truth and how we act.
For example, if the atheist is right, then there are no morals. Things like emotions and logic actually don't exist and can't be explained in a purely physical world. It's all every man for himself, and someone like Hitler is on par with Martin Luther King Jr. Every man can do what is right in his own eyes. Every man is his own god. Additionally, the universe and it's intricate designs just cam out of no where, as did all the physical laws that work it.


He clarified above xD I misunderstood myself.

But atheists only deny the presence of God. They do not deny morals, or standards set by society. Such as the concept of "Social contract".

And yea sadly it isn't the state of the world, but however if we do not work towards that state of the world, it will never be the state of the world.

 

[Made in Heaven]

Personally the world isn't the problem it is the people of the world. We read something but we do not sink in what it supports.I mean lets just take Naruto for example.. hardly anyone focuses on the message it gives..

Some people tend to read just as a traditional thing.

ah, it sure sucks to be a human

 

[SoulKiller]

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