[Debate] Religion vs Athiest debate, (new stuff)

[KingHashirama]

"To say he doesn't exist is a lie, to say he exists is a lie also. For one did not search the whole universe to say he does not exist, on the other hand one also has not seen him to say he does exist. " - 10th guru of the Sikhs.



About religion vs science arguments:

This whole argument is based on assumptions and beliefs of one person. The mere belief of Science vs Religion, downgrades all the arguments presented against religion. To say religion dominates science goes against the fact that most religions are also based on science.

Science explains how things work. It does not go against "god" it simply goes against the beliefs of some people.

Islam itself uses plenty of science. In fact Muslims were quite superior to the Europeans during the Crusades..due to the acknowledgement of using Science.

You cannot mix FAITH with Science.. Nor can you put them against each other. It pains me to see people who call themselves "Smart people of science or religion" using these 2 things against each other. No human being on the planet exists without faith, whether they want to admit it or not.

The debates aren't against Science vs religion, they are always about 2 different beliefs of people.

MY opinion on religion:

Sure you can believe whatever you want. But always remember Humanity is the top priority not your own personal faith.

Christians some who claim god to be the almighty contradict themselves by putting a war against God vs Satan. Some believe it is the word of God, but fail to realize it wasn't written by their beloved "son of God".

Muslims some people do not realize that Islam is based on upon the teachings of the Jews, but "upgraded" by their prophet Muhammad. On top of that there are some who still to this day believe Muhammad Sahib himself wrote the Quran...

Sikhs some of them believe in the caste system, but fail to realize that their religion speaks of no caste system, but equality of humans. But again ruined by the personal opinions of the people who have been in "Tribal" or "caste" fights for a long period of time.

Hindus some simply fail to realize they do more harm to humanity with their rituals than they actually do good.

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Your opinion now!

 

[IamtheGodofUchihaforever]

how about them Yankees?

 

[Made in Heaven]

Sorry, but I'm getting a mod

 

[-immortal-]

Its al To high. Its stupid and you shouldn't believe in what doesn't exist.

 

[~Sky~]

I believe it's beyond everyone's head, and anyone who acts like they know the secrets of the Universe are kidding themselves.

People just always have to pit themselves against one another as if them being right actually means something.

 

[KingHashirama]

Its al To high. Its stupid and you shouldn't believe in what doesn't exist.

Just like you should never form hypothesis to form tests. However, the reality of the matter is to believe in something is the only way to get results.

I believe it's beyond everyone's head, and anyone who acts like they know the secrets of the Universe are kidding themselves.

People just always have to pit themselves against one another as if them being right actually means something.

agreed. As the wise men of the olden days said, " Greatest threat to humanity itself are the humans themselves."

 

[Made in Heaven]

Wait who the hell Muhammad sahib?!

 

[-immortal-]

Just like you should never form hypothesis to form tests. However, the reality of the matter is to believe in something is the only way to get results.



agreed. As the wise men of the olden days said, " Greatest threat to humanity itself are the humans themselves."

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[Elio]

I pretty much agree with you. You're free to believe what you want, but when it comes to other people you shouldn't try to force your beliefs upon them and infringe upon anyone's rights just because of your beliefs.

 

[Made in Heaven]

O and on your point of Muslims failing to recognize that Islam is an upgraded version of Judaism, that's wrong. Since Muslims acknowledge that their religion came from the Jews, as both Judaism and Christianity were (at one point) the true religion if god but after they were altered and corrupted by men, god sent prophet muhammmed as his final messenger, just as he had done so with Moses and Jesus

 

[KingHashirama]

Wait who the hell Muhammad sahib?!

depending on where you live, some people refer to Muhammad as "Muhammad sahib".

 

[-Punk-]

I believe it's beyond everyone's head, and anyone who acts like they know the secrets of the Universe are kidding themselves.

People just always have to pit themselves against one another as if them being right actually means something.

This right here , this is great ^ Fatality .

 

[Made in Heaven]

depending on where you live, some people refer to Muhammad as "Muhammad sahib".

so wait, are you saying prophet Muhammad wrote or didn't write the Qur'an?

 

[KingHashirama]

I pretty much agree with you. You're free to believe what you want, but when it comes to other people you shouldn't try to force your beliefs upon them and infringe upon anyone's rights just because of your beliefs.

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It is the truth.. some who believed in god, meditated their lives away .. and said they attained god and wrote about him..

Just like how we form hypothesis in science about something and then try to work to prove it write.. or see if its right.

O and on your point of Muslims failing to recognize that Islam is an upgraded version of Judaism, that's wrong. Since Muslims acknowledge that their religion came from the Jews, as both Judaism and Christianity were (at one point) the true religion if god but after they were altered and corrupted by men, god sent prophet muhammmed as his final messenger, just as he had done so with Moses and Jesus

Reread what i said, I clearly stated "Some", and tell that to the muslims who literally butcher Jews.

You say he was the final messenger.. though he himself restricted god in many ways.

so wait, are you saying prophet Muhammad wrote or didn't write the Qur'an?

I'm saying he did not write Qur'an.

 

[-Spoiler-]

What i can't understand is which religion is the right one? i mean Hinduism is the oldest, Christianity is the largest(even though it came after Judaism >.>).

 

[Made in Heaven]

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It is the truth.. some who believed in god, meditated their lives away .. and said they attained god and wrote about him..

Just like how we form hypothesis in science about something and then try to work to prove it write.. or see if its right.



Reread what i said, I clearly stated "Some", and tell that to the muslims who literally butcher Jews.

You say he was the final messenger.. though he himself restricted god in many ways.

I'm saying he did not write Qur'an.

I can't do anything about that, I'm just a noob on the net :T_T:

What do you mean by that?

Then who do you think wrote it?

 

[-immortal-]

xd



It is the truth.. some who believed in god, meditated their lives away .. and said they attained god and wrote about him..

Just like how we form hypothesis in science about something and then try to work to prove it write.. or see if its right.



Reread what i said, I clearly stated "Some", and tell that to the muslims who literally butcher Jews.

You say he was the final messenger.. though he himself restricted god in many ways.



I'm saying he did not write Qur'an.

Also If God existed there should not have been any Church or Anything else. Cause if he Is *there* Why let a Human* teach men. why not let god himself Reach the new Born Child/baby ? or is this because he doesn't* exist. this is because w/o this. people ain't earning money.

 

[KingHashirama]

What i can't understand is which religion is the right one? i mean Hinduism is the oldest, Christianity is the largest(even though it came after Judaism >.>).

There is no such thing as a "right one" there are hardly any people on the planet who are true to the religion they follow. Those who defend Christianity and Islam, hardly follow it faithfully themselves.

 

[Made in Heaven]

What i can't understand is which religion is the right one? i mean Hinduism is the oldest, Christianity is the largest(even though it came after Judaism >.>).

You know if yore interested in such a topic, maybe it would be best for you to ask such questions to religious scholars. Though I could help you too I guess....

 

[Made in Heaven]

Also If God existed there should not have been any Church or Anything else. Cause if he Is *there* Why let a Human* teach men. why not let god himself Reach the new Born Child/baby ? or is this because he doesn't* exist. this is because w/o this. people ain't earning money.

Why should god teach people himself?