Not in this case. Lightning technique of higher level > Wind technique of lower level. Mountain that Kirin destroyed was like 10x bigger than FRS explosions that we could see in manga, the difference in power between these two jutsus is just too big, nature affinities are meaningles. Do you remember battle between Kakashi and Kakuzu? Kakuzus flames easily broke through Kakashis water barricade when they were strenghtened by wind.
rasenshuriken VS kirin
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EQUILIBRIUM
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who said anything about a bucket....your the only person who mentions a bucket..you trying to be a wise guy......my flame proof jacket is on...so dont start....cuz i will roast you.
stfu..
GofOfNothing
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yamato said that when 2 same lvl jutsus clashes the one with the element advantage will win
but if the one jutsu is stronger than the other one the element advantage wont help
not saying that kirin is more powerful than rasenshuriken im not sure
but you cant fight a burning house with one bottle water
but if the one jutsu is stronger than the other one the element advantage wont help
bro its the right thing what he said therewho said anything about a bucket....your the only person who mentions a bucket..you trying to be a wise guy......my flame proof jacket is on...so dont start....cuz i will roast you.
not saying that kirin is more powerful than rasenshuriken im not sure
but you cant fight a burning house with one bottle water
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Roast me? Sorry, but manga is on my side.who said anything about a bucket....your the only person who mentions a bucket..you trying to be a wise guy......my flame proof jacket is on...so dont start....cuz i will roast you.
EQUILIBRIUM
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your like the 20 person that mentioned mountains that kirin destroyed...first of all we only seen kirin one damn tyme,,just once,,,if naruto throws rasenshuriken at what ever, mountains buildings whatever,,,,it will destroy it..
.kirin aint the only thing that could destroy a mountain.i seen rasenshuriken actually do damage...kirin couldnt even kill itachi with that one strike,,which means susano was more powerful than kirin it self becuz itachi was still alive,,,,,now my point is,,,we didnt see rasenshuriken go head on with susano...when we see that we will see which one is stronger ...rasenshuriken is stronger....
Kirin destroyed whole that mountain.
In comparison, thats FRS explosion ->
How would FRS destroy a mountain that was at least 10x bigger than effect of FRS? Thats simply impossible. I know thats hard for you to swallow, but when it comes to destruction power FRS is nowhere near Kirin.
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-> No mountain anymore.In comparison, thats FRS explosion ->
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How would FRS destroy a mountain that was at least 10x bigger than effect of FRS? Thats simply impossible. I know thats hard for you to swallow, but when it comes to destruction power FRS is nowhere near Kirin.
No wonder, considering Itachis Susanoo was equipped with Yata mirror.
why are some people saying that just because kirin can blow up a mountain and has more destructive power than rasenshuriken, that it what makes it more devastating than rs. Kirin can blow up a mountain because:
1) It is very,very,very powerful
2) more importantly, its power isn't concentrated but its power is widespread and happens over a larger surface rather than being all hit at the target so some of that power is wasted as it doesn't reach the target
whereas rasenshuriken IS concentrated and doesn't dissipate/waste like kirin does as more of its power is directed at the target
RASENSHURIKEN is better, forget what kirin or rs can do to mountains and the surroundings, its the target thats the main thing !!!
1) It is very,very,very powerful
2) more importantly, its power isn't concentrated but its power is widespread and happens over a larger surface rather than being all hit at the target so some of that power is wasted as it doesn't reach the target
whereas rasenshuriken IS concentrated and doesn't dissipate/waste like kirin does as more of its power is directed at the target
RASENSHURIKEN is better, forget what kirin or rs can do to mountains and the surroundings, its the target thats the main thing !!!
piymon2008
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:izuna:just tell me one thing if Kirin has the power to destroy a whole mountain then how come Sasuke himself was saved in the explosion because as far as i know in that instance Sasuke too was on that mountain with Itachi.
The reason is that the mountain was not entirely destroyed and that the attack can be dodged with speed besides what you people show as power of FRS on Mt. Myobaku was at a training phase. Naruto was practising at that moment if u want to see the effect of FRS switch to the episode where Naruto used FRS against Zabuza and then against pain.
Every time it expanded on touching the target. FRS was so deadly that it was branded Forbidden even by Tsunade. While in case of Kirin we see no serious damage to either side. ITACHI SURVIVED through SUSANOO and tell us HOW SASUKE SURVIVED it, if the attack could destroy a whole mountain.
I am totally open for debate on this one. Prove me wrong :flaw::flaw:
The reason is that the mountain was not entirely destroyed and that the attack can be dodged with speed besides what you people show as power of FRS on Mt. Myobaku was at a training phase. Naruto was practising at that moment if u want to see the effect of FRS switch to the episode where Naruto used FRS against Zabuza and then against pain.
Every time it expanded on touching the target. FRS was so deadly that it was branded Forbidden even by Tsunade. While in case of Kirin we see no serious damage to either side. ITACHI SURVIVED through SUSANOO and tell us HOW SASUKE SURVIVED it, if the attack could destroy a whole mountain.
I am totally open for debate on this one. Prove me wrong :flaw::flaw:
piymon2008
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Sasuke was on the stone slab on that same mountain.
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If mountain was destroyed how did sasuke survived. I want to say over here is that we have seen Kirin only once so we cant judge its effectiveness yet because no one died from it, neither the target nor the caster nor the spectator(Zetsu) wherease rasenshuriken has killed everyone it touched 10/10(not talking about edo tensei Raikage) so we know for sure:
1) RS: Lot easier and faster to make and throw.
Kirin:Very time consuming if thundercloud not present
2) RS: Takes much less Chakra compared to Kirin making
Kirin: needs setup like use of katon techniques and/or amaterasu which takes too much chakra.
3) RS: If the technique is known to enemy, the enemy should pray not to get hit by it(cant stop the process of making it) other techniques are absorbing it(rinnegan ability).
Kirin:if the technique is known to enemy, then the enemy can stop the process by removing or stopping thunder clouds(Game Over for the Caster)
4)This is the most important
RS:multiple throws with various variation like(mini, large,etc)
Kirin:Single try if hit goal otherwise if miss the caster is f**ked..
MangekyouJ
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Big deal...Kirin destroyed an entire mountain...whoop dee doo...Lets see Kirin destroy everything on a cellular level. I'm sorry I didn't recognize this earlier and I wasn't able to quite understand the reason why Tsunade put that jutsu as Forbidden. If you remember the talk that Kakashi had with Yamato and Naruto and I wish I knew exactly which chapter, but it was during their training of the new jutsu, but he said that Naruto and Sasuke were meant to be a team. Fire is stronger than Wind, but Wind is stronger than lightning. They were meant to help each other out or help destroy each other. Wind amplifies Fire to make it stronger, or an stronger Wind could overpower fire and blow it out. That's why Kakuzu's fire broke through Kakashis' Water Dragon....
MangekyouJ
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well if you take sasuke's tintin out of mouth and think for a second you would understand that the rasenshuriken is 100 billion times more effective because:
1.it doesnt take much time to make it
2.Naruto can expand it if he wants to
next time think before you say anything stupid you got to analyze both jutsus and which one takes longer to produce and thats how you determine which one is more effective.
so think before you get verbally raped by intelligent people :flaw:
piymon2008
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I know man but people fail to see that this thread is almost over as no new points are coming up.You just summed up this entire thread and it should end with that...
Totsuka No Tsurugi
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firstly why u have to insult me ? are u mad or something ?well if you take sasuke's tintin out of mouth and think for a second you would understand that the rasenshuriken is 100 billion times more effective because:
1.it doesnt take much time to make it
2.Naruto can expand it if he wants to
next time think before you say anything stupid you got to analyze both jutsus and which one takes longer to produce and thats how you determine which one is more effective.
so think before you get verbally raped by intelligent people :flaw:
and last time i checked the OP was talking about which one is more powerful, not which jutsu is take less time to produce, we are talking when both jutsu is ready to go and clashed, u don't have to insult me if u don't agree with me, if u have different opinion feel free to state it no need to insult other ppl that u don't know anything about.