[VS] Raikage vs Itachi

[WreckRolled]

itachi makes A cry manly tears

 

[Forbidden Tale]

Raikage would befell the same fate as Orochimaru. Itachi low diff.

 

[shelke]

Ae besting Itachi in Taijutsu is just as laughable as Tsunade besting Gai in it. The Guy has a total of 5 moves tops, including the shroud. This is where is so-called vast Taijutsu versatility ends.

 

[LuckyMan]

Ay can only use taijutsu. Itachi will win easily because of versatility. 1 tsukoyomi and its all over

I hate itachi fanboys but since juubi revival arc people are starting to underrate him. He is still pretty strong, stronger than any kage individually

He needs to land Tsukuyomi on Ay which cannot happen because of his speed.

Itachi is far from underrated. If I had a week I still could not list all his fanboys on this site who says he solos anyone. He is certainly not stronger than all Kage individually. That's pure fanboyism.

The intel they have on one another is up to the current manga. Itachi knows absolutely nothing about the Raikage. Whats stopping Ay from blitzing him right when fight begins with Top Speed Punch? Itachi would have no idea this man is fast enough to dodge something like Amaterasu at point blank ranged, a jutsu Itachi said himself was unavoidable. Why did he say this? Because he never met and experienced someone like Ay. The intel of this fight influences the outcome greatly in Ays favor specifically because it is Ay. Unless you can use FTG, Kamui (obito version), or get some plot driven main character power-up (Naruto for example) you are not evading his Top Speed Punch. All you can do is hope you can put a guard up in time and that it wont take you out when 99.99 percent of the time, it most certainly will.

 

[AGoodBoy]

If I had a week I still could not list all his fanboys on this site who says he solos anyone.

List 5.

Bonus round: list 5, with proof.

 

[Monkeysageof6paths]

Speed: Raikage>Itachi
Taijutsu: Raikage>Itachi
Ninjutsu is irrelevant really since it won't do anything to him (Apart from Amaterasu and totsuka blade off course)
Genjutsu:Obviously Itachi>Raikage
Durability: Raikage>Itachi And it I think this is the major problem for Itachi. No only is Raikage fast, he also has ALOT of stamina.
Itachi on the other hand, doesn't. Itachi would rely on techniques that uses up way too much chakra, while Raikage wouldn't. Itachi is very smart though, he uses everything he has, even his weaknesses to his advantage. He will always come up with something. It can really go either way in my opinion. Although I would see Itachi loosing more than not, because He mainly has to rely on genjutsu..

 

[LustyLover]

Itachi low diff without moving a finger. The same thing that happened against Deidara, Orochimaru, and so many others will only be repeated here. Forbidden Tell is right.

 

[Inert Brian]

Itachi low diff without moving a finger. The same thing that happened against Deidara, Orochimaru, and so many others will only be repeated here. Forbidden Tell is right.

100% Agree with this guy.

Any non Uchiha gets their tuna slapped by Itachi (excluding Hashirama) because his genjutsu is way too haxed, he made the toughest foes shitty.

 

[Inert Brian]

Itachi low diff without moving a finger. The same thing that happened against Deidara, Orochimaru, and so many others will only be repeated here. Forbidden Tell is right.

100% Agree with this guy.

Any non Uchiha gets their tuna slapped by Itachi (excluding Hashirama, Indra, SM Kabuto, and war arc Orochimaru) because his genjutsu is way too haxed, he made the toughest foes shitty.

 

[SuperChief]

As expected, hardly anyone makes compelling arguments for Itachi winning this.

To start, A wins this for two reasons: speed and stamina. Itachi has nothing that can hit this guy. Not Amaterasu. Not Susanoo. Not the Sword of Totsuka. Nothing. A simply dodges those jutsu, and he can keep dodging them until Itachi runs out of chakra.

Anyone that thinks Itachi is putting A down with genjutsu has simply lost the plot.

 

[Inert Brian]

As expected, hardly anyone makes compelling arguments for Itachi winning this.

To start, A wins this for two reasons: speed and stamina. Itachi has nothing that can hit this guy. Not Amaterasu. Not Susanoo. Not the Sword of Totsuka. Nothing. A simply dodges those jutsu, and he can keep dodging them until Itachi runs out of chakra.

Anyone that thinks Itachi is putting A down with genjutsu has simply lost the plot.

"No compelling arguments" What are you talking about?

-KCM naruto kept up with v2 Ay, mangafact.

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You bring up Susano'o and Amaterasu, yet you completely ignore genjutsu because you know Ay has no counter. ^^

Itachi is a genjutsu fighter, why would he use Amaterasu and Susano'o when genjutsu is his dominant combat type? He looks at Itachi's eyes he is 1 hit ko'd. He tries to lariat Itachi oh look crow dusk genjutsu.

Remember that one time Madara 1 shotted Raikage with Tsukuyomi? When has Madara used genjutsu outside of that one time?

 

[SuperChief]

"No compelling arguments" What are you talking about?

-KCM naruto kept up with v2 Ay, mangafact.

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You bring up Susano'o and Amaterasu, yet you completely ignore genjutsu because you know Ay has no counter. ^^

Itachi is a genjutsu fighter, why would he use Amaterasu and Susano'o when genjutsu is his dominant combat type? He looks at Itachi's eyes he is 1 hit ko'd. He tries to lariat Itachi oh look crow dusk genjutsu.

Remember that one time Madara 1 shotted Raikage with Tsukuyomi? When has Madara used genjutsu outside of that one time?

I'm talking about the majority posters in this thread, including you.

Itachi and Naruto were having a conversation. He wasn't fighting Itachi at full power nor was he going at full speed. He'd have obliterated Itachi if that were his intention. This pathetic at power scaling just goes to show ignorant you are.

I ignore genjutsu because it is utterly ridiculous to argue there is anything realistic about Itachi putting down a Kage of A's calibre with a one-shot illusion. A knows better than to look an Uchiha in the eye - least of Uchiha Itachi. What makes you even think Itachi would have the opportunity to trap A? If he were foolish enough to put himself in such a position where he is close enough to make eye contact and attempt to snare A in his illusion, then surely the match has already been decided because A will have blitzed Itachi before he can do anything about it.

And lol at you comparing Itachi to a demigod like Madara. That comparison just doesn't fit no matter how hard you try to force it. That Madara, btw, had the benefit of unlimited chakra and stamina. He could keep up his Susanoo defence. Itachi does not have that luxury. He will run out of chakra before long, and until that happens A can keep running circles around him. Hell, he can probably break through Itachi's Susanoo if he so chooses.

 

[LuckyMan]

"No compelling arguments" What are you talking about?

-KCM naruto kept up with v2 Ay, mangafact.

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You bring up Susano'o and Amaterasu, yet you completely ignore genjutsu because you know Ay has no counter. ^^

Itachi is a genjutsu fighter, why would he use Amaterasu and Susano'o when genjutsu is his dominant combat type? He looks at Itachi's eyes he is 1 hit ko'd. He tries to lariat Itachi oh look crow dusk genjutsu.

Remember that one time Madara 1 shotted Raikage with Tsukuyomi? When has Madara used genjutsu outside of that one time?

There has not been any compelling arguments for Itachis victory.

I already told you fighting speed is not movement speed. Do I really need to find that old thread and link my whole post about it? Naruto did not engage Ay in a taijutsu fight. He tried to run past him and Ay simply got in his way. Ay was also in V1 at that time, stopping Killer Bee and Naruto from getting past him with just 1 arm. I'll give you a brief intro into my movement speed vs. fight speed post:

Movement speed is classified as how fast a shinobi can move their body from one place to the other, whether this is by basic running, shunshin, space-time jutsu, etc.

Fighting speed is classified as how fast a shinobi is able to attack/fight, how they react during a fight, and how quickly and precisely they can attack the enemy. This trait is reserved for shinobi who are highly capable taijutsu users and can easily hold their own in a taijutsu fight.

Narutos movement speed is fast but his fighting speed is not that high, which is why Itachi was able to react to his attacks via sharingan.

I don't think you are understanding that Ay is too fast for Itachi to react to. Itachi has no intel on him. That's mostly why A wins. Lightning Straight to the upper body and Itachi is done.

 

[LustyLover]

How about I shut this thread down with just one scan:

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^Tsukuyomi

Ay loses in five seconds @Tsukuyomi

GG Ay.

 

[Brooks]

Looks like your the kid with issues here.

You're truly an ignorant individual and somehow too stupid to understand what other people are saying.

I stated that Ei can't maintain V2 armor with the amount of Chakra he's putting it on. while you're ignorant post says "Ay does not have the chakra to fight with his V2 lightning armor."

Read before replying with your horse shi_t.
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I found it funny several post on this thread already says Ay does not have the chakra to fight with his V2 lightning armor. Hilarious.

 

[LuckyMan]

You're truly an ignorant individual and somehow too stupid to understand what other people are saying.

I stated that Ei can't maintain V2 armor with the amount of Chakra he's putting it on. while you're ignorant post says "Ay does not have the chakra to fight with his V2 lightning armor."

Read before replying with your horse shi_t.
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Its basically the same thing. You said Ay cant maintain V2 Armor with the amount of chakra hes putting into.

You are essentially saying Ay does not have the chakra to fight with his V2 lighting armor for the duration of this fight.

No? If not, then please explain to me exactly what you meant with that post.

 

[Brooks]

Its basically the same thing. You said Ay cant maintain V2 Armor with the amount of chakra hes putting into.

No, it's not the same thing. What i stated was Ei can't maintain V2 armor with the amount of Chakra he's using at it while you translated to Ei not having the Chakra to use V2 armor at all. This two things quite different.​

You are essentially saying Ay does not have the chakra to fight with his V2 lighting armor for the duration of this fight.

No? If not, then please explain to me exactly what you meant with that post.

For the last time, i am saying that Ei can't maintain his V2 armor do the amount of Chakra it takes to use it.​

 

[LuckyMan]

No, it's not the same thing. What i stated was Ei can't maintain V2 armor with the amount of Chakra he's using at it while you translated to Ei not having the Chakra to use V2 armor at all. This two things quite different.​

Why would I say he does not have chakra to use V2 armor at all when he has already used it? You interpreted that I meant he could not use it at all but that's silly, especially when he had done it several times.

For the last time, i am saying that Ei can't maintain his V2 armor do the amount of Chakra it takes to use it.​

Okay. Ay has tailed beast chakra levels and you say he cant maintain his v2 armor in a fight, not to mention against a low chakra ninja like Itachi.

Do you know how much chakra his armor takes?
Was it ever mentioned how much chakra it requires?
Did Ay ever say he cant maintain it long in a fight?

Unless you can answer those questions then you are just speculating he cant maintain it for a whole fight, which is a silly assumption considering his chakras are tailed beast levels.

 

[Apêx1]

Okay. Ay has tailed beast chakra levels and you say he cant maintain his v2 armor in a fight, not to mention against a low chakra ninja like Itachi.

Do you know how much chakra his armor takes?
Was it ever mentioned how much chakra it requires?
Did Ay ever say he cant maintain it long in a fight?

Unless you can answer those questions then you are just speculating he cant maintain it for a whole fight, which is a silly assumption considering his chakras are tailed beast levels.

Ay was mentioned to have tailed beast chakra levels because that was the amount of chakra he was expending at a rapid rate. When Naruto does BM

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he wastes more chakra, the more chakra he shrouds himself in. Ay is basically doing the same, as he charges his raiton shroud, his level of chakra seems to be growing because he is releasing more at a rapid rate, instead of reserving it like any ordinary ninja would

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Ay does not have Tailed beast levels of chakra, he simply can expend enough chakra to momentarily seem like he does, but it doesn't mean he will upkeep the shroud for 7 mins+. Otherwise, he would've used v2 against Madara, since he can keep it up as you say.

 

[LuckyMan]

Ay was mentioned to have tailed beast chakra levels because that was the amount of chakra he was expending at a rapid rate. When Naruto does BM

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he wastes more chakra, the more chakra he shrouds himself in. Ay is basically doing the same, as he charges his raiton shroud, his level of chakra seems to be growing because he is releasing more at a rapid rate, instead of reserving it like any ordinary ninja would

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Ay does not have Tailed beast levels of chakra, he simply can expend enough chakra to momentarily seem like he does, but it doesn't mean he will upkeep the shroud for 7 mins+. Otherwise, he would've used v2 against Madara, since he can keep it up as you say.

So if Hinata expends chakra at a very rapid rate will she has tailed beast level chakra momentarily too? Fail logic. His father was a chakra monster and its obvious he inherited the trait.