[VS] Raikage vs Itachi

[Apêx1]

In V1, he did so, rather easily. In V2, he was still able to see him but couldn't react. But given V2 requirements, Raikage has never shown to keep the V2 Shroud up for more than a few seconds.

I do know that. The fact remains that Sasuke didn't easily keep up with Ay's speed when he went all out. A v1 Ay fighting with a Itachi will likely be matching speeds. However Itachi shouldn't go in a situation like that as he will get outlasted, his best bet is to end the fight right away.

 

[Draegod]

You are mostly correct in your speed claim. Itachi isn't as quick as KCM Naruto using his shunshin, he's probably KCM Naruto's running speed. However, that is still fast. The only way for him to win is Susano and genjutsu. People who are saying he's going to keep up the pace with him are clearly idiots. However, he will stil be put under genjutsu in this match, and that will be his end. Fight starts, Ay expects Amateratsu and looks at Itachi whilst charging v2, Itachi puts him into genjutsu=low diff. Fight starts, Ay doesn't look at Itachi's eyes, gets amateratsu'd and dies=low diff. I fail to see how it requires more than one ms/3t ability.

I wouldn't say it's that simple or will play out like that. Itachi will literally be on defense the entire time waiting for an opening. Aye will keep pressure the entire time. Itachi will not catch him with his ms jutsus easily, that is a fact! Aye is not dumb nor will he act the way he did with sasuke (only noobs think he is that way all the time). Aye has so many ways to fight itachi and win as well. It goes either way high extreme dif IMO

 

[shelke]

I do know that. The fact remains that Sasuke didn't easily keep up with Ay's speed when he went all out. A v1 Ay fighting with a Itachi will likely be matching speeds. However Itachi shouldn't go in a situation like that as he will get outlasted, his best bet is to end the fight right away.

V2 Ae cannot outlast Itachi as I mentioned. The chakra requirements are far too large for it. Which is obviously why he never used it against madara, not even once in hopes to last longer in the fight.

 

[Draegod]

I do know that. The fact remains that Sasuke didn't easily keep up with Ay's speed when he went all out. A v1 Ay fighting with a Itachi will likely be matching speeds. However Itachi shouldn't go in a situation like that as he will get outlasted, his best bet is to end the fight right away.

Sasuke did not keep up with ayes blitz ever! Not once in the manga any level! Noob users like shelke think aye blitz sasuke when sasuke connected a chidori, that is far from the truth. So many slow uses do not know what combat speed is compared to running speed. Then they think sasuke seen v2 aye... Lmmfao sasuke literally was looking in the wrong direction when aye was about to chop him, Kishi even notes that sasuke used Enton armor because he couldn't see or keep track of aye.

The reason you never talk about uchihas on this site anymore is because not a single user besides a few (not in this thread) can defend them correctly with out misunderstanding manga facts. Shit is funny how they can be a "fan" but not know the manga on there fav character.

 

[Apêx1]

V2 Ae cannot outlast Itachi as I mentioned. The chakra requirements are far too large for it. Which is obviously why he never used it against madara, not even once in hopes to last longer in the fight.

I was implying v1 Ay can outlast Itachi.

 

[LustyLover]

Sasuke did not keep up with ayes blitz ever! Not once in the manga any level! Noob users like shelke think aye blitz sasuke when sasuke connected a chidori, that is far from the truth. So many slow uses do not know what combat speed is compared to running speed. Then they think sasuke seen v2 aye... Lmmfao sasuke literally was looking in the wrong direction when aye was about to chop him, Kishi even notes that sasuke used Enton armor because he couldn't see or keep track of aye.

The reason you never talk about uchihas on this site anymore is because not a single user besides a few (not in this thread) can defend them correctly with out misunderstanding manga facts. Shit is funny how they can be a "fan" but not know the manga on there fav character.

Ay gets shat upon. Discussion closed.

 

[Apêx1]

Sasuke did not keep up with ayes blitz ever! Not once in the manga any level! Noob users like shelke think aye blitz sasuke when sasuke connected a chidori, that is far from the truth. So many slow uses do not know what combat speed is compared to running speed. Then they think sasuke seen v2 aye... Lmmfao sasuke literally was looking in the wrong direction when aye was about to chop him, Kishi even notes that sasuke used Enton armor because he couldn't see or keep track of aye.

The reason you never talk about uchihas on this site anymore is because not a single user besides a few (not in this thread) can defend them correctly with out misunderstanding manga facts. Shit is funny how they can be a "fan" but not know the manga on there fav character.

The fact is, Sasuke connected his Chidori, meaning he reacted to his speed with little difficulty. As Shelke already mentioned, v2 cannot be kept up for an eternity. Karin noted he was using biju levels of chakra, he cannot keep that up.

Nice to know. Seems you're just mad because you have no argument as to how Ay can dodge Amateratsu whilst not being put under genjutsu. The thread is asking who wins, not who can cry most regarding why Uchiha's>your favorable characters in a single post.

 

[shelke]

I was implying v1 Ay can outlast Itachi.

All right, my mistake then. Well, can he outlast him, given his fighting style and that ultimately he'll fall prey to Itachi's Genjutsu? As soon as Genjutsu hits him, his shroud will go down, leaving him open for a killing blow.

Sasuke did not keep up with ayes blitz ever! Not once in the manga any level! Noob users like shelke think aye blitz sasuke when sasuke connected a chidori, that is far from the truth. So many slow uses do not know what combat speed is compared to running speed. Then they think sasuke seen v2 aye... Lmmfao sasuke literally was looking in the wrong direction when aye was about to chop him, Kishi even notes that sasuke used Enton armor because he couldn't see or keep track of aye.

The reason you never talk about uchihas on this site anymore is because not a single user besides a few (not in this thread) can defend them correctly with out misunderstanding manga facts. Shit is funny how they can be a "fan" but not know the manga on there fav character.

This guy just cannot stop discussing me. Sasuke did see V2 Ae, which is why he immediately coated his Susano'o with enton right before Ae in V2 could hit him. Also, Ae did blitz Sasuke in V1 and it was easily avoided.

Wouldn't expect much from a guy who thinks Neji easily beats Hebi Sasuke.

 

[Stxluciferr]

Sasuke did not keep up with ayes blitz ever! Not once in the manga any level! Noob users like shelke think aye blitz sasuke when sasuke connected a chidori, that is far from the truth. So many slow uses do not know what combat speed is compared to running speed. Then they think sasuke seen v2 aye... Lmmfao sasuke literally was looking in the wrong direction when aye was about to chop him, Kishi even notes that sasuke used Enton armor because he couldn't see or keep track of aye.

The reason you never talk about uchihas on this site anymore is because not a single user besides a few (not in this thread) can defend them correctly with out misunderstanding manga facts. Shit is funny how they can be a "fan" but not know the manga on there fav character.

But the fact remains that raikage isn't going to outrun Itachi's line of sight and can't get through susanoo. Itachi doesn't even have to fully power it.

 

[Apêx1]

All right, my mistake then. Well, can he outlast him, given his fighting style and that ultimately he'll fall prey to Itachi's Genjutsu? As soon as Genjutsu hits him, his shroud will go down, leaving him open for a killing blow.

Yea, but then he can simply do what I said in my original post. Act as if he is going for Ama and put him into genjutsu or have Ay avoid eye contact and get hit by Amateratsu.

 

[Draegod]

But the fact remains that raikage isn't going to outrun Itachi's line of sight and can't get through susanoo. Itachi doesn't even have to fully power it.

He easily out runs itachi's vision no diff! What make you think Itachi can perfectly track this man????????? And in regards to susanoo; Knock it round and out run it constantly make the strain it puts on itachi make him go blind and/suffer sooner then later. Itachi cannot spam and does not spam MS techs, don't know why you users think he can or has when alive.

 

[eagle8]

itachi wins low-mid diff.

 

[shelke]

Yea, but then he can simply do what I said in my original post. Act as if he is going for Ama and put him into genjutsu or have Ay avoid eye contact and get hit by Amateratsu.

Yeah, that's true. Easy and simple strategy. I go a lot with this as well, but people get emotionally hurt over this. As Ae is a Close Ranged CQC fighter, in V1, he's literally doomed, because Sharingan will be right in his face then. I haven't even touched upon the fact that Itachi can use genjutsu through his crows as well.

 

[Draegod]

Yea, but then he can simply do what I said in my original post. Act as if he is going for Ama and put him into genjutsu or have Ay avoid eye contact and get hit by Amateratsu.

You for what ever reason seem to think Aye will play That waiting game. Aye will be the aggressive one with out a doubt! That strategy is 100% not in the equation! Ama is 1000% useless since itachi never ever ever everrrrrrrrrrrrr uses that off bat and will never make a mistake when his opponent is elite and he still has to examine the situation.

You first have to learn how itachi fights to even have an idea why he doesn't win anything less then high. Itachi's character isn't understood by allot of the users on this particular sight unfortunately.

 

[slimreaper]

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this is all itachi needs to distract Ay enough to land a susanoo blow or cast a genjutsu.

 

[Stxluciferr]

He easily out runs itachi's vision no diff! What make you think Itachi can perfectly track this man????????? And in regards to susanoo; Knock it round and out run it constantly make the strain it puts on itachi make him go blind and/suffer sooner then later. Itachi cannot spam and does not spam MS techs, don't know why you users think he can or has when alive.

Sasukes eyes could follow V1. And could see V2, though Sasuke couldn't keep up with it let's remember Itachi is faster and has better reaction feats. Throw in the fact that Raikage can't fight the entire battle in V2 and he's not out running Itachi's line of sight

 

[Apêx1]

You for what ever reason seem to think Aye will play That waiting game. Aye will be the aggressive one with out a doubt! That strategy is 100% not in the equation! Ama is 1000% useless since itachi never ever ever everrrrrrrrrrrrr uses that off bat and will never make a mistake when his opponent is elite and he still has to examine the situation.

You first have to learn how itachi fights to even have an idea why he doesn't win anything less then high. Itachi's character isn't understood by allot of the users on this particular sight unfortunately.

Please show me where this thread states the fight is IC. If a thread doesn't state it is IC then it is common logic to assume it isn't. Arguing that it is all of a sudden IC shows that you are desperate for a argument. However, even without amateratsu right off the bat, Itachi still puts Ay under genjutsu.
Really? You seem to not understand Ay at all. You seem to think he will fight Itachi in v2 the entire fight. That isn't possible, if he doesn't end it in his first blitz he's done for. Itachi has ribcage Susano as well, have you forgotten? v1 is all it took to stop Ay in his tracks, v2 will make Ay the equivalent of a bug attempting to break through your window. Crow Genjutsu ends this easily, or Ay exhausts himself from excessive v2 usage.

Yeah, that's true. Easy and simple strategy. I go a lot with this as well, but people get emotionally hurt over this. As Ae is a Close Ranged CQC fighter, in V1, he's literally doomed, because Sharingan will be right in his face then. I haven't even touched upon the fact that Itachi can use genjutsu through his crows as well.

I agree. People will start saying it isn't IC for him to do it (^) or they simply start handing their character feats he never had.

 

[Brooks]

Ei's only useful weapon is V2 armor but that's not going last long with the amount of Chakra he's putting it on.

Itachi takes Mid-diff at best...​

 

[Penguin]

Itachi high diff.

 

[AGoodBoy]

Sasuke didn't easily keep up with Ay from what I recall. Pretty sure when Ay went v2 Sasuke shit his pants

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pretty sure sasuke tracked him... Instead of ribcage, itachi bursts into fcrows and does

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. that's assuming he truly can't just react when he's faster than sasuke and isn't under amaterasu whiplash.

why he doesn't win anything less then high. Itachi's character isn't understood by allot of the users on this particular sight unfortunately.

there's so much irony in this post. You're the only one here who doesn''t know what they're talking about Lol