Raikage A vs Hiruzen Sarutobi

[SAGA]

Prime Hiruzen Sarutobi > Raikage

 

[shogun973]

the 1st is the strongest, this fight would be pretty equal with hiruzen being the slight favorite.....however 3rd raikage owns hiruzen

 

[Sazzi]

hiruzen wins...

 

[Kyuubikiller]

Third Raikage with ease.

 

[wyliejl]

No, A is slower then the fourth. Not that only the fourth could win against him. Hiruzen taught the sannin, this would be a good fight but i have 2 penis

Hiruzen may taught the sannin thats it he wasnt the reason why they was strong.....they all had different style that hiruzen only dream that he could use!!!!!

 

[wyliejl]

No, A is slower then the fourth. Not that only the fourth could win against him. Hiruzen taught the sannin, this would be a good fight but i have 2 penis

Please tell me you misspelled the last word....

 

[Gingka Uzumaki]

It was also stated that only the 4th was stronger than A

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You sure about that?

 

[Rike Senju]

No way in hell is old sarutobi going to keep up with A's speed and his attacks. And kabuto's hype from part 1 is different from kabutomaru who has a lot more knowledge now than he did before about the power of the first.

 

[wyliejl]

:| :sy:
You sure about that?

That wat a told naruto

 

[CloudStrife7]

I highly doubt the first can win,even with all those jutsu..A is jux to fast daw..sasuke was even having a hard time keeping up with him..physically

 

[GodaimeRaikage]

Manga Link :sy::sy::scorps:



Ya thats true since we didn't see much from his old age But if u where to go by Manga
Both prime & old >>>>Raikage

If we are to go by Feats Raikage>>>>>>>>>Old Hiruzen
Raikage>>>>>>>>>Prime Hiruzen -

God Of Shinobi is a nice titled.But it is not something Hiruzen earn.It's not like all the shinobis from every village got together to see who was the strongest, then bestow the titled on Hiruzen.The same can be said for the strongest Hokage.Who was around the time of the Hashirama, Tobirama, and then Hiruzen to compare the three.Never in the manga did it say who gave Hiruzen his titles.If it was simply Leaf Shinobis, then Hiruzen titles are clearly bias.Furthermore, even his "strongest kage of his time"title is questionable.Who consider him the strongest? It might just be leaf shinobis, which would make that titled bias.From what I have actually seen in the manga.Hiruzen wasn't the strongest Kage of his time, that titled goes to the Tsuchikage Onoki.His feats at an age far older than Hiruzen was when he fought Orochimaru, are far more impressive.And Kabuto said Hashirama was the strongest shinobi not name the sage of the six paths.That alone with Madara's hyping of Hashirama, put a serious damper on Hiruzen strongest Hokage claim.

we don't go by stats here we go by the jutsus shown till now.... sarutobi is an experienced man and knowing A's speed he'll keep distance....sarutobi is known for excellent chakra control and perfect energy utilization whereas we can see raikage just rushing towards the opponent , be it , zetsu ,tobi , or sasuke in susano , in which he lost an arm ...... sarutobi will have to be careful bcoz raikage isn't someone to "buy" time from...but i'd still say sarutobi be it prime or old.... reason: hiruzen was considered the strongest kage.. of all villages which includes hidden cloud too.....

How does Hiruzen keeps his distance from someone with A(Raikage) speed? As for the strongest kage remark.See what I wrote above.Hiruzen hype doesn't match his feats.In part one he was the strongest kage, the strongest Hokage, etc etc etc.Now in part two, Hashirama was the strongest shinobi, throwing a brick through the glass in which was the part one hype of hiruzen being the strongest Hokage.The same for him being the strongest kage of his time.Base on feats actually shown in the manga, Onoki>>>>>>Hiruzen
The ability to combine three jutsu to create Dust Release, lifting an entire island and meteor.Destroying the first hokage Hashirama's forest jutsu madara was using with the conical variant of Dust Release.Flying and making his Kurotsuchi and Akatsuchi fly as well.There just isn't anything we have seen from Hiruzen to place him above Onoki in anyway.

Hiruzen's hype puts him close to the sage of the six path in power and skill.
Hiruzen's feats don't put him in the top five.

No, A is slower then the fourth. Not that only the fourth could win against him. Hiruzen taught the sannin, this would be a good fight but i have 2 penis

What does Hiruzen teaching the sannins have to do with anything?Minato was jiraiya student, not hiruzen.And even Jiraiya couldn't learn Minato FTG.And i'm sorry for you having two penises.That must make sword fighting like a daily thing for you.Unless the other penis is on you butt.Which would means you would have to be very careful how you sit;whether you sit on it or it makes an accidental insertion, you are f**ked.

I go with Hiruzen.
He can create an earth wall in preparation for A's high speed attack(like the army did for A's father) and when he's drilling through it, Sandaime can prepare to cage him in Enma once he comes out the other side, then...I dont know...throw a sleeping pill at him? Lol. Use a paralysis genjutsu or some sort of seal.

And earth wall for a lightning element users with tail beast level chakra and speed that only one shinobi in the history of the shinobi world could counter.Yeah, that will work.You are being sarcastic, right?



A(Raikage) With Mid Difficulty.

 

[tsunademan]

the third hokage

 

[Vexorian]

It was also stated that only the 4th was stronger than A

Only the 4th was FASTER than A, not stronger. I won't say Old Hiruzen would win, but he would certainly make him look like a rank amateur before he died. Something can be said of having 69 years of age and having a 5 in the stat versus 30 and having a 5 in the stat. In terms of stamina, strength, and speed, it's obvious who wins. The only problem I forsee is Enma being a pain in the ass for A. But I do see A winning.

 

[eyesofthekyuubi44]

A > Old hiruzen.

Prime Hiruzen > Raikage.

Can you show me the fight that prime Hiruzen was in?

 

[eyesofthekyuubi44]

speed aint everything remember how killer bee had his blade againt minato is the killer instict that make you the strongest SPEED with out strenght is useless he only uses taijutsu konoha taijutsu is better am pretty sure hokage can open gates if he has 5 in tai and he know all of konaha combat styles

And at that point, Minato STILL had the advantage. Killer Bee had no idea where exactly Minato was pointing the blade, whereas Minato had a clear view of Killer Bee's blade.

 

[shinobu sensui]

He was strong enough for Orochimaru, a legendary sannin, to feel the need to summon 3 other hokages(though only 2 being successful) to fight him in his old age. Enma himself stated Hiruzen could have simply killed off Orochimaru if he wanted to 10 years prior to the fight.

There's a very short list of characters powerful enough that could simply just kill Orochimaru whenever they felt like it.

10 years prior to the fight he wasn't immortal. That makes the list much longer on who could have killed him. But back to the topic hiruzen in his prime is only as strong as you imagination allows him to be, for ther is no hiruzen in his prime fight in the manga. From what we have seen with our eyes gives us no logical reason to say that hiruzen can beat A. A lot of things have been stated in the manga that are not true for example, amaratsu isn't a jutsu you can dodge, A has done so. Tsunade stated that she could not die in battle, in the last manga she looked pretty dead to me

 

[Kakashi Fang]

Raikage easily.

Hiruzen's old gas bag ass is overrated.
Prime this, prime that, prime my ****!!!
Kabuto wasn't even conceived when Hiruzen was in his prime so how the **** would he know!?

Kishi only said he was the strongest in Part 1 because he didn't even create or think of Onoki and A yet. If Kishi would have introduced them at the same time then 3-4 Raikage and Onoki would be superior to him.

 

[shinobu sensui]

Raikage easily.

Hiruzen's old gas bag ass is overrated.
Prime this, prime that, prime my ****!!!
Kabuto wasn't even conceived when Hiruzen was in his prime so how the **** would he know!?

Kishi only said he was the strongest in Part 1 because he didn't even create or think of Onoki and A yet. If Kishi would have introduced them at the same time then 3-4 Raikage and Onoki would be superior to him.

This !!!!!!!!

 

[Vexorian]

First off...A is no match for his dad, and I mean NONE. Secondly....A wouldn't defeat Hiruzen as easily as you think. If Enma has the power to push the Kyuubi out of the village, then he certainly has the power to damage A. Like I said, Hiruzen would school A in the art of being a Shinobi before he dies. It was said that Hiruzen's senses were amazing, I do believe he may be able to react, especially with Enma helping him. Whether or not it's a draw due to Shiki Fuujin, I do not know.

 

[Vexorian]

I know there is similar threat. Some people wrote that Hiruzen can defeat Raikage.. But how?
If you look to Hiruzen's stats, you can see that he has ninjutsu: 5 (Raikage too), taijutsu: 5 (Raikage too) genjutsu: 5 (But he hasn't any genjutsu), Inteligence 5 (Raikage 3,5-4), speed 3 (Raikage 5), strength 3 (Raikage 5), stamina 3 (Raikage 5) and hand seals 5 (Raikage 2,5 probably).
Sarutobi can't defeat Raikage in my opinion. Although he has taijutsu on 5, but Raikage kill him in first blow. Sarutobi has HS on 5, but raikage will stop him after first seal.
There's no way for Hiruzen.

(sorry for my english)

the whole Speed Blitz thing is rather overrated. Hiruzen would obviously fight using substitutions and clones for as long as necessary to summon Enma and equal the fight out. Once Enma is summoned, it's fair game.