Narushima
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I'd find myself with the others, although I'm not a member of the alt-right or any other far right fringe movement. It's a statement of fact that not all races are equal, and you don't have to be an ethno-nationalist to acknowledge this. It would be unwise to believe that humans, after millions of years of evolution across seperate continents on the globe, would result on par with one another; along with I.Q. as you mentioned, races vary physiologically and genetically giving each race distinguishable traits and attributes from one another. In my personal perspective, it's the variation in traits among races -- the inimitability, that makes each race beautiful.
I have no problem with the alt-right or anyone trying to enlighten people on the reality of race, but I do have a problem with the alt-right trying to use these truths to fuel their white nationalist propaganda and further their ethocentric narrative. One major flaw with the alt-right is that their entire ideology only works within a collective framework; they overemphasize on statistical averages in reference to race and use them as mapping tools to assess how the nation should operate while ignoring the "individual(s)" that make up the statistics and the nation. There's more variation among individuals within a given race than among different races collectively, and while all races follow general tendencies in a given factor, the margin of error of individual members within a given race that don't fall in line with the general rule is far too significant to be considered reliable; especially when dealing with such large populations.
Lastly, all interpretations of the white ethnostate "Utopia" the alt-right advocate for are unrealistic and are unlikely to ever come to fruition. You would need more than half the current white population to go alt-right to even see alt-right policies be enacted into government, yet alone to be able to overtake the government, which would be unreal seeing as an arguable majority of whites either prefer or are indifferent to living among other races of people. Even if they did manage to get over half the white population to go alt-right, they would still have to deal with the growing population of non-white minorities that represent 40% of the current U.S. population. Whether it be a successfully waged race war, or voluntary eugentics, neither exist within the realm of possibility.
TL;DR Not all races are equal, the alt-right is stupid, a U.S. white ethnostate will never happen.
You are casting pearls before swine, my friend.
I have little to add to what you have said other than that the bolded statement, known as Lewontin’s fallacy in population genetics though here you seem to have applied it to population consequences of trait differences, is misleading, and that you underappreciate the consequences of the demographic trends in the US given that you accept scientific racial realism.
While the overlap between statistical distributions on any trait will mean that individuals of all types will exist in all populations, mean differences in distributions on traits that are important for modern, technological economies will have important consequences, most notably in the form of human capital.
An interesting reference that I recommend to you is Richard Lynn’s The Global Bell Curve: Race, IQ and Inequality Worldwide. Lynn shows that if you ignore natural resources like crude oil, the average IQ of states worldwide explain most of the variation in their economic performance.
And that is a hardly surprising finding.
Cognitive ability explains most of the variation in individual economic performance – it naturally follows that it will likewise explain the variation between groups of individuals in the form of states. Resource poor states like Japan and Korea show us that human capital, itself largely a function of cognitive ability, is the most important explanatory factor in the economic capacity of states.
Which is why the demographic trends in the US will have real and significant consequences. You are correct that a White ethno-state in the US is not feasible but as the US becomes Brazil in its demographic makeup, it will also approach it in social, economic and political standards. The same goes for western Europe, which will approach the Middle East in that regard, in the future.
Richard Lynn himself does not have any hope for the western world – however he is convinced that the East Asian states (Japan, Korea and China) will maintain themselves as ethno-states and that therefore modern, scientific and technological civilization will live on in them. Though I identify with the alt-right for the most part, the more I live, the more I find myself coming to a similar position.

