[Discussion] Pros and cons to Doffy vs straw hat

[bajram]

Ace is a logia and we can't compare Luffy's red hawk to Akainu's magma fist.

Otherwise Hody would have a better tanking feat than Whitebeard and Ace.

Even if the damage is inwards, he still took minimal hits than luffy did all together through the arc.

The two hit Doffy took may seem worse, but he appears to handle it well considering that he got up right after the attack.

He even had the strength to hold law's face to attack him.

If his organs were still torn/damaged, then it would be a handicap.

But he's stitched up his wounds, so there's no constant pain or internal bleeding.





Luffy's strength is one of the notable top of the series.

He is way physically stronger than doffy, not even Doffy comes close in being able to ragdol Oars, Asgard Moria, or Giants.

Doffy beats his opponents with speed and fruit power.

Doffy can't stand there and take all of Luffy's attacks head on and expect to survive.



It's a move that's suppose to make you bleed out to death, but Doffy's fruit basically made the purpose of that attack useless.

It's not an instant kill move, that's why law volleys it with countershock so he won't be able to get help healing it.


Well he did feel the hit, he was coughing blood and flew back creating a crater.

Hody took two red hawks so I expect Doffy to do the same.

What? This has absolutely nothing to do with ace being a logia and when did I compare luffy's red hawk and akainus magma punches, that's ridiculous I compared gamma knife and akainus punches because both of them destroy ur innards causing immediate death, actually its ur problem if u think some punches here and there or some stamina spending is worse then having ur organs torn apart.

He has constant pain since doflamingo never said he fully healed his innards, he said that he only was able to stitch them together as a form of first aid, how in the hell is pain stopping from just a normal stitch? Not to forget that even in that beaten up state he took in counter shock.

He had the power to take an almost done law by the face and was still having problem's to get up to his feet later, dont be ridiculous please, the stamp that send doflamingo flying was when the guy was in middle of gamma knife and was completely off guard, please thats not a feat worth mentioning.

I never talked about physical strength did I? I was talking about overall strength and the enemies each one fought were different on level powers, u cant compare Law or sanji to chinjao or hajrudin or the other coloseum members.

As I said, he barely felt it, it just took him by surprise and then proceed on blitzing Law and Luffy, and are we actually reading the same manga here, hody never took 2 red hawks, actually he took only one red-hawk and was bleeding to death even with the pills and luffy then knocked him out for good with elephant gun u have mixed it with the anime version or something.

 

[VongolaX]

What? This has absolutely nothing to do with ace being a logia and when did I compare luffy's red hawk and akainus magma punches, that's ridiculous I compared gamma knife and akainus punches because both of them destroy ur innards causing immediate death, actually its ur problem if u think some punches here and there or some stamina spending is worse then having ur organs torn apart.

That's the thing, it's no longer torn apart because it's attached together.

So basically he's feeling nothing but a bruise in his abdominal area, that's it.

You were making a pain comparison between red hawk and akainu's magma, it doesn't work that way.

He has constant pain since doflamingo never said he fully healed his innards, he said that he only was able to stitch them together as a form of first aid, how in the hell is pain stopping from just a normal stitch? Not to forget that even in that beaten up state he took in counter shock.

That's fine, as long as he stitched his tear and is no longer bleeding, he's only bruised.

Luffy was gut punched by Bellamy's haki and coughed out blood, so luffy is also dealing with inward pains from an outward attack.

Both are in the same state of damage.

He had the power to take an almost done law by the face and was still having problem's to get up to his feet later, dont be ridiculous please, the stamp that send doflamingo flying was when the guy was in middle of gamma knife and was completely off guard, please thats not a feat worth mentioning.

He was in the middle of cutting law down, it's not like his strength depleted.

I never talked about physical strength did I? I was talking about overall strength and the enemies each one fought were different on level powers, u cant compare Law or sanji to chinjao or hajrudin or the other coloseum members.

You compare damages by accumiliation, tally up the damages that were received in total.

And yes you were talking about strength, you said doffy was "stronger than luffy."

More powerful would of been a lot more clear in your interpretation.

As I said, he barely felt it, it just took him by surprise and then proceed on blitzing Law and Luffy, and are we actually reading the same manga here, hody never took 2 red hawks, actually he took only one red-hawk and was bleeding to death even with the pills and luffy then knocked him out for good with elephant gun u have mixed it with the anime version or something.

 

[Tomato God]

This was a nice thread. Full of butthurt.

 

[Punk Hazard]

That's the thing, it's no longer torn apart because it's attached together.

So basically he's feeling nothing but a bruise in his abdominal area, that's it.

You were making a pain comparison between red hawk and akainu's magma, it doesn't work that way.




That's fine, as long as he stitched his tear and is no longer bleeding, he's only bruised.

Luffy was gut punched by Bellamy's haki and coughed out blood, so luffy is also dealing with inward pains from an outward attack.

Both are in the same state of damage.



He was in the middle of cutting law down, it's not like his strength depleted.



You compare damages by accumiliation, tally up the damages that were received in total.

And yes you were talking about strength, you said doffy was "stronger than luffy."

More powerful would of been a lot more clear in your interpretation.

Doflamingo said he didn't heal or regenerate his organs, they're just being kept together to function. He didn't reverse the damage, so the pain i sstill there.