Wow this is a really good analysis, the kazekage's has always been the ones with solid potential to be Op shinobi, but always seemed to get troll by kishi. The third raikage has been IMO one of the most powerful shinobi only to be rival by a handful I guess this adds one more to the list.
Thanks for the compliments, this analysis took quite a while and gathering evidence from a few sources and i'm glad my efforts aren't going unnoticed or unappreciated
OHH thats your logic now?....10,000 fodderful ninja vs 100 chakra controlled puppets that were hailed to take over a whole nation... i think with sasori as commanding officer to his puppets that would prolly make the 3rd raikages time a LOT more difficult to destroy all of them without getting hit...like i said im not just gonna roll over and accept the 3rd AUTOMATICALLY beats sasori...id debate it but i wont accept it with these reasonings...if this is true and beating 10,000 ninja makes u automatically better...than naruto>10,000 ninja and 3rd raikage all together..:shrug::flaw:
OHH thats your logic now?....10,000 fodderful ninja vs 100 chakra controlled puppets that were hailed to take over a whole nation... i think with sasori as commanding officer to his puppets that would prolly make the 3rd raikages time a LOT more difficult to destroy all of them without getting hit...like i said im not just gonna roll over and accept the 3rd AUTOMATICALLY beats sasori...id debate it but i wont accept it with these reasonings...if this is true and beating 10,000 ninja makes u automatically better...than naruto>10,000 ninja and 3rd raikage all together..:shrug::flaw:
"fodderful ninja" just because they are Fodder does not mean they are weak.. Lmao. Dudes from the hyuuga clan are fodders but they are strong as hinata..
OHH thats your logic now?....10,000 fodderful ninja vs 100 chakra controlled puppets that were hailed to take over a whole nation... i think with sasori as commanding officer to his puppets that would prolly make the 3rd raikages time a LOT more difficult to destroy all of them without getting hit...like i said im not just gonna roll over and accept the 3rd AUTOMATICALLY beats sasori...id debate it but i wont accept it with these reasonings...if this is true and beating 10,000 ninja makes u automatically better...than naruto>10,000 ninja and 3rd raikage all together..:shrug::flaw:
at this rate naruto could he is taking on 6 tailed beast by himself and a whole nation no sasori only took down the 3rd kazekage not the sand village remember that.
The Third Kazekage has the pure advantage because of three things
Advantageous Nature of Size
Iron Sand can also be used as a internal weapon to kill your opponent if killing them on the outside is out of the question e.g. with the Third Raikage. The Iron sand can enter through the mouth or nose of the person manipulating it through his magnet release Kekkei Genkai. This would cause interal bleeding, heaviness of the lungs and causing breathing problems which would definitely affect the Third Raikage's performance, whether we accept it or not the Third Raikage is still human. The Third's lungs could be slowly filled with Iron sand which would eventually result in him suffocating from insufficent oxygen. This is a full proof method in killing the Third Raikage as its not one that can be guarded unless the Third Raikage goes "Mhmhm im not opening my mouth and i'm wearing a nose plug"
Immunity to all Metallic Weapons
This is just plain and simply all weapons made of metal .e.g almost everything would be useless/disadvantageous to the user using them. Imagine Tenten going up against this guy. "10000 Weapons rain, they stop and turn around with everyone single hitting as the magnet release guides it like a missile. Hiruko with his Steel release would become a toy to throw far and wide and Shikumaru's kunai technique could very well back fire.
Access to a Infinite Armoury:
The weapon is made out of Iron Sand, the shape can be whatever the user wants, and can even be changed during the fight. This allows the user to create the best weapon for the fight, by taking into account the opponent's abilities and the surrounding environment. Since the Iron Sand generates a strong magnetic field, the opponent cannot use any metal weapons or tools.
Magnetism is greatly underrated, it is one of the five great forces of nature along with gravity.
Access to an infinite armoury and being immune to all metallic weapons means he could take on 10,000 Samurai like the Third Raikage took on 10,000 fodder shinobi. He could also construct weapons out of his iron sand perfect for this situation in order to give him an advantage.
The advantage of size when it comes to iron sand is a big factor, he could use the iron sand particles and get it into the Third Raikage's mouth/nose and fill his lungs with iron sand. Eventually he would be able to control the raikage because of the iron sand inside him.
Also he would eventually suffocate because he wouldn't be able to efficiently use oxygen because of the lack of space in his lungs.
Honestly I want to know how Sasori "assassinated" him. The third Kazekage was obvisously really powerful, and had a powerful kekkai genkai at his disposal.
As to whether the third Raikage could beat him I don't know if whether the Kazekage could stand up to the raw power, and speed that he had. We all know that garaa can be defeated by speed, and I'd imagine that iron is slower then sand.
But if he could blood bend, that would make a huge difference.
The Third Kazekage has the pure advantage because of three things
Advantageous Nature of Size
Iron Sand can also be used as a internal weapon to kill your opponent if killing them on the outside is out of the question e.g. with the Third Raikage. The Iron sand can enter through the mouth or nose of the person manipulating it through his magnet release Kekkei Genkai. This would cause interal bleeding, heaviness of the lungs and causing breathing problems which would definitely affect the Third Raikage's performance, whether we accept it or not the Third Raikage is still human. The Third's lungs could be slowly filled with Iron sand which would eventually result in him suffocating from insufficent oxygen. This is a full proof method in killing the Third Raikage as its not one that can be guarded unless the Third Raikage goes "Mhmhm im not opening my mouth and i'm wearing a nose plug"
Immunity to all Metallic Weapons
This is just plain and simply all weapons made of metal .e.g almost everything would be useless/disadvantageous to the user using them. Imagine Tenten going up against this guy. "10000 Weapons rain, they stop and turn around with everyone single hitting as the magnet release guides it like a missile. Hiruko with his Steel release would become a toy to throw far and wide and Shikumaru's kunai technique could very well back fire.
Access to a Infinite Armoury:
The weapon is made out of Iron Sand, the shape can be whatever the user wants, and can even be changed during the fight. This allows the user to create the best weapon for the fight, by taking into account the opponent's abilities and the surrounding environment. Since the Iron Sand generates a strong magnetic field, the opponent cannot use any metal weapons or tools.
Magnetism is greatly underrated, it is one of the five great forces of nature along with gravity.
Access to an infinite armoury and being immune to all metallic weapons means he could take on 10,000 Samurai like the Third Raikage took on 10,000 fodder shinobi. He could also construct weapons out of his iron sand perfect for this situation in order to give him an advantage.
The advantage of size when it comes to iron sand is a big factor, he could use the iron sand particles and get it into the Third Raikage's mouth/nose and fill his lungs with iron sand. Eventually he would be able to control the raikage because of the iron sand inside him.
Also he would eventually suffocate because he wouldn't be able to efficiently use oxygen because of the lack of space in his lungs.
Ok, the way you describe him and how he can use his technique with the magnet release.. automatically makes him Stronger then Madara and Hashirama and Sarutobi.
But, i doubt he can "control the body" by just entering iron sand in someone's body.
Also, the speed of the kazekage and his reflexes will be the ones that determine if he can win against the Raikage. Raikage will only need ONE hit to fatally injure the kazekage.
The Kazekage is smart yes.. But the Raikage most likely has more experience.
Also, the suffocation.. Hmm that can only happen if the Raikage lets it happen. now if this is a all Desert place to fight then chances are highly but if it is rocky or forest then it has less chances (i know rocky and forests also have sand).
Now in Narutowikia all it mentions is that he could Clog up the Puppet joints nothing about controlling humans. Also, the flaw for the Kazekage's technique is the Raikage's lightening armor :x.
From what you've put up, theoretically it sounds legit but according to manga and prob kishi(NOTE: I do not speak on kishimotos behalf nor do I know him personally) so to say that he has the possibility to blood bend would be illogical, also on a side note wasn't blood bending on Avatar: the last air bender? Also seeing that the Raikages skin is stronger that any type of armor excluding his own lightning armor, so as of right now I would have to side with the Raikage on this debate until further evidence is provided!
Ok, the way you describe him and how he can use his technique with the magnet release.. automatically makes him Stronger then Madara and Hashirama and Sarutobi.
Yellow flash do you want to join in on the debate?
But, i doubt he can "control the body" by just entering iron sand in someone's body.
Also, the speed of the kazekage and his reflexes will be the ones that determine if he can win against the Raikage. Raikage will only need ONE hit to fatally injure the kazekage.
The Kazekage is smart yes.. But the Raikage most likely has more experience.
Also, the suffocation.. Hmm that can only happen if the Raikage lets it happen. now if this is a all Desert place to fight then chances are highly but if it is rocky or forest then it has less chances (i know rocky and forests also have sand).
Now in Narutowikia all it mentions is that he could Clog up the Puppet joints nothing about controlling humans. Also, the flaw for the Kazekage's technique is the Raikage's lightening armor :x.
Ok i understand Blood bending is a theortical technique but iron entering your body to suffocate is 100% legit and definitely possible.
But if enough iron sand enters the body, the Third's Kazekage Magnet release allows him to repel/attract nearby magnetic things (iron sand put inside the Raikage's body) which would in turn be able to control him.
Now that i consider the Blood bending is only theortical and might not be possible
Also the Third Kazekage's ability to be immune to metallic weapons and access to an infinite armoury both perfectly compliment each other.
He could make weapons perfect for the situation with is intelligence which seems far greater than shikamaru's (he understood shukaku and created his own version of magnet release/iron sand)
Also if the battle ground used was covered in iron sand, it would decrease the raikage's speed by quite a bit compared to a normal terrain.
Finally, the third kazekage could put iron sand on his shoes and then repulse himself from the ground making himself fly without the need of riding his sand to fly. This effective method of flight is perfect because it recreates flying without anything much needed to create the desired effect apart from the iron sand covering the terrain.
Ok i understand Blood bending is a theortical technique but iron entering your body to suffocate is 100% legit and definitely possible.
But if enough iron sand enters the body, the Third's Kazekage Magnet release allows him to repel/attract nearby magnetic things (iron sand put inside the Raikage's body) which would in turn be able to control him.
Now that i consider the Blood bending is only theortical and might not be possible
Also the Third Kazekage's ability to be immune to metallic weapons and access to an infinite armoury both perfectly compliment each other.
He could make weapons perfect for the situation with is intelligence which seems far greater than shikamaru's (he understood shukaku and created his own version of magnet release/iron sand)
Also if the battle ground used was covered in iron sand, it would decrease the raikage's speed by quite a bit compared to a normal terrain.
Finally, the third kazekage could put iron sand on his shoes and then repulse himself from the ground making himself fly without the need of riding his sand to fly. This effective method of flight is perfect because it recreates flying without anything much needed to create the desired effect apart from the iron sand covering the terrain.
Well lets see.. If he can control the sand inside someone's body then basically he can control the metal in the body to... BUT then he would be OP. So i don't believe in that theory.
I see the third Kazekage as a guy who uses iron sand instead of GOLD sand like the 4th kazekage. And his magnet KKG is like that one guy who was a edo tensei and could magnetize the thing he touches.
So yes having that kind of a KKG and iron sand and using those 2 to make any kind of weapon is a good help. And also the flying without sand. That would be a no no.. He would have to use his hands to fly to push him self off the ground (he is not magneto , who can just fly cause of magnetism).
Now you see Blood bending or controlling the iron in a guys body who has electricity around him is IMPOSSIBLE. And the flying thing is possible but would leave him vulnerable.
And also shikamaru isn't a scientist. And also minato observed the nine-tails attack and made the Rasengan lol. ;x but hes not smarter then Shika either.
Plus shikamaru still is a kid. but his dad is probably the "smartest strategist" in NARUTO at the moment.
Anyway, all the Raikage has to do is avoid the attacks with his speed or take them head on and just hit Kazekage 1 time. x-x
again an insanely strong akatsuki member.
by your logic hokages are weak cos minato died to pre rinnegan tobi, hiruzen died to oro and tobirama died to 20 fodder
Honestly Shikamaru could beat him if he was stronger e.g. Kage Level
The 3rd kazekage isn't underrated, he's underwhelming. The 3rd raikage's hype is 100% justified, he's one of the most powerful characters ever to be shown in the manga.
Well lets see.. If he can control the sand inside someone's body then basically he can control the metal in the body to... BUT then he would be OP. So i don't believe in that theory.
I see the third Kazekage as a guy who uses iron sand instead of GOLD sand like the 4th kazekage. And his magnet KKG is like that one guy who was a edo tensei and could magnetize the thing he touches.
So yes having that kind of a KKG and iron sand and using those 2 to make any kind of weapon is a good help. And also the flying without sand. That would be a no no.. He would have to use his hands to fly to push him self off the ground (he is not magneto , who can just fly cause of magnetism).
Now you see Blood bending or controlling the iron in a guys body who has electricity around him is IMPOSSIBLE. And the flying thing is possible but would leave him vulnerable.
And also shikamaru isn't a scientist. And also minato observed the nine-tails attack and made the Rasengan lol. ;x but hes not smarter then Shika either.
Plus shikamaru still is a kid. but his dad is probably the "smartest strategist" in NARUTO at the moment.
Anyway, all the Raikage has to do is avoid the attacks with his speed or take them head on and just hit Kazekage 1 time. x-x
Lol ok on to my other 3 points on why the 3rd Kazekage would have the advantage in this battle
1)Iron conducts electricity
The fact that iron conducts electricity means that he is able to use it in the same way the lightning receiving mechanism which safely get rid of an immense amount of electricity by charging it back into the earth to be dispersed. Basically this means any projectiles the raikage shoots at the Third Kazekage could be easily diverted into iron rod mechanisms which just transmit it safely back to earth.
With this same method the Kazekage could divert a Kirin successfully from sasuke.
2)Range of the Battle
The kazekage could either fly with his sand much like Gaara or have the other option of wearing iron on his soles so that he can use his magnet release to repulse him into the air (as long as it exceeds the force of gravity) meaning he could fight from a safe distance and not worry about the Raikage's main and devastating melee attacks e.g. hell stab whilst simultaneously guarding himself from projectiles with the method mentioned my first point.
3)Ability to warp the Terrain
The Third Kazekage could use large amounts of iron sand to cover the ground to serve several purposes in the battle.
1) It would significantly decrease the speed of the Third Raikage compared to travelling on a normal ground.
2) The Third Kazekage can use several traps because controlling the terrain meaning an overall control of the environement in the battle e.g. catching the third Raikage in a iron sand trap surprisingly which restrains his body.
The main way the Third Kazekage can combine these 3 things into an overall advantage is:
First use his Iron sand to fly to give himself a good distance between the Third Raikage. Then he warps the terrain by covering the ground in iron sand to decrease the Third Raikage's speed overall. Next he can use the method mentioned in the first point to divert all of the Third Raikage's projectiles attacks (lightning shots that have a decent range) mainly his black lightning back to the iron covered terrain to use the Third Raikage's own attack against him thus electrocuting him.
