Proof Naruto doesn't have Uzumaki Stamina (manga evidence inside)

[shadowcb]

I didn't say that the manga said it wasn't from Uzumaki. But it doesn't say it is because of Uzumaki. I'm saying Naruto having the chakra for Sage Mode isn't necessarily proof that he inherited the reserves of normal Uzumaki because Jiraiya, who didn't have any Uzumaki heritage whatsoever, had the chakra levels sufficient to use Sage Mode. It shows that it is possible for Naruto have the chakra level necessary to learn and use Sage Mode without inheriting the reserves of a full Uzumaki because who also doesn't have Uzumaki heritage could do it.

True, but I find it foolish to believe Naruto, who has a large amount of charka and is known for his large amount of charka, didn't inherent that trait from uzumaki clan because the manga didn't state it. Even though a large amount of chakra is an uzumaki trait and he has uzumaki traits.

 

[Pumpkin Ninja]

Don't you have anything else to do than deny manga facts?

 

[Dantee]

Just answer it, how did Naruto learn SM? Remember, Kurama had zero involvement in the process.

Kurama is the sole reason he has large reserves smh.

 

[the entire forum]

excellent thread,

good facts

 

[Dantee]

excellent thread,

good facts

Thanks btw I'm going to bed for tonight before anyone trolls saying herp dderp Dantee didn't reply because he has no answer You know who you are.

 

[To Whatever]

kushina was in labor lol. That is defo not 100%. Naruto couldn't even speak so much for resistance, Kushina did so much afterwards.

Are you saying infant Naruto has more stamina and or life force than Minato. Cmon there is a clear reason why the nine tails was subjugated easily by baby naruto plot and the seal Minato used. But I will humor any arguments you have for this.

Let me get this straight.

I show you a panel of it explicitly being stated that Naruto is an Uzumaki and his ability to resist, validating his strong life-force.

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-You say feats disagree.

I explain to you the differences in what happened to Minato when he took Kurama and when Naruto took Kurama.

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-You call it "Plot"

Does kishimoto have to personally come to your house, wrap chapter 662 and 504 around his ****, then slap you with it for you to understand?

 

[Remedy]

And was Jiraiya not using it?

The reason his was incomplete was because Jiraiya wasn't interested in learning how to draw in and mix Nature Energy himself, as Pa told him he really should learn how to enter Sage Mode on his own. This shows Jiraiya had the capability to master it, but didn't because he didn't like the way it made him look and because he felt like they could do it better than him anyways.

Yeah, if that were the case Pa toad wouldn't have went out his way to say this.

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If mixing energy were that easy, Jiraiya would have mastered, but he couldn't, same for Minato, that's why Jiraiya needed the toads. Naruto learned complete Sage Mode off of his large reserves alone. Most people can't even maintain 1 shadow clone for long, but you see Naruto having 3 at a time harvest natural energy, while maintaining Sage Mode.

Please, stop.

 

[Remedy]

Kurama is the sole reason he has large reserves smh.

Kurama and Naruto have separate reserves, hosting a bijuu doesn't simply give you large reserves. You must posess large reserves to even host one in the first place. Now again, how did Naruto achieve SM? remember this is off his own reserves?

Why I am entertaining this I don't know.

 

[Ansatsuken]

I dont know what to say because both side Naruto fans and Sasuke fan(Dantee for the most part) had good point.

But I just want to touch this one moment. How Naruto a man just fall into a coma instantly when Kushina not just a woman but also going through labor and child birth still can fight and stayed alive for a while after she lost kyuubi?

Who can answer this question because this could be the differences between Naruto and other Uzumakis especially his mother.

 

[Hiraishin Stage 3]

It has already been said that Naruto survived long enough after extraction because he was an uzumaki.
Naruto had already been fighting a long war before that so he was in a worse condition than kushina.

It's embarrassing to see someone who has been here for years make a moron out of himself.

 

[Ansatsuken]

It has already been said that Naruto survived long enough after extraction because he was an uzumaki.
Naruto had already been fighting a long war before that so he was in a worse condition than kushina.

It's embarrassing to see someone who has been here for years make a moron out of himself.

You know women dies during child birth alone happen many times and there are soldiers fight for a weeks but still survived unless they got shot.

I heard NV fourth world war is just two days.

And Naruto doesnt seem tired at all.

Its just logic

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If something like that happen, I can accept Naruto is tired or in worse condition

 

[Opiuchus05]

did anyone post these yet?

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[Hiraishin Stage 3]

You know women dies during child birth alone happen many times

Irrelevant, Women have weaker bodies than men, and even among women they have different limits of enduring pain.

And pretty sure not everyone dies.

and there are soldiers fight for a weeks but still survived unless they got shot.

They don't run around 24/7 for weeks without rest, war doesn't work that way.

I heard NV fourth world war is just two days.

And Naruto doesnt seem tired at all.

Kyuubi chakra was the only thing that kept him running.

Chakra can be used to revitalize those exhausted.

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[Ansatsuken]

Irrelevant, Women have weaker bodies than men, and even among women they have different limits of enduring pain.

You speaked like you has an experienced giving birth. How do you know man can survived Child Birth better than Woman when there is no proper medical help?

They don't run around 24/7 for weeks without rest, war doesn't work that way.

Thats not my point. Even you cant say they able to get enough rest(sleep and dreaming) when enemies still around especially in forest war as example. And you think Naruto fight with Juubito is as intense as Goku and Vegeta fought Kid Buu? Naruto and co. fighting like this---> attack, wait, talking, stared at each others, devise a strategies etc etc. No urgency. How you can get tired from that?

Then you need to re-read, kyuubi chakra was the only thing that kept him running.

Chakra can be used to revitalize those exhausted.

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Because of Kurama, he doesnt need to fight using his own body. Used BM and go. Because of Kurama, he can heal, recover and save his own energy. Most of the time chakra cloak protect him unlike Saiyan.

Thats mean no excuses on Naruto is in worse condition than Kushina.

My points is simple.

 

[shadowcb]

Yet the strongest Uzamakis have red hair do you think that is coincidence? smh



That is a valid reason but what was wrong with his mental state again? and Kurama doing most of the stamina support means nothing to you?



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Lmao you serious bruh that scan doesn't even say that. why lie ?



Why would he? Jirayas statements and Kakashis already prove me right. Why run to Pa when he was clearly talking about SM in general.



Not sure how this is even relevant when I proved their chakras were mixed at the beginning. How are you trying to pass Kuramas healing feat to naruto. Everyone knows that is Kuramas innate ability to heal wounds, NAruto wasn't doing that on his own cmon now.


smh not sure how to even respond to this. Are you saying naruto was a genius like minato or a chakra chain jin Uzamaki with stamina like his mother? no just no.



It was heavily implied and I was only pointing that out. Sages words " Naruto you should know about that".


Nope you didn't even scratch the surface of proving me wrong but you provided a better argument than 8/10 of the people posting.




Feats say otherwise.

Naruto is one of the strongest uzumaki and that doesn't change the fact that those were two separate statements explaining some of the uzumaki clan traits.

A person's mental state is very important. We saw Naruto pass out from his wind training because of mental exhaustion. All the 9 tails did was gather chakra. Naruto was the one controlling it and manipulating it. He was doing all the work. IE: If you go to a store and buy a sledgehammer, any thought you didn't create the sledghammer, if you decide to use it your are the one doing the work. The store is not using the sledgehammer for you.

The manga stated Naruto only received a tiny bit of the 9 tails chakra -

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- The manga clarified the amount of 9 tails chakra Naruto receives in part 2. You are just omitting facts because it proves you wrong. If I give you a tiny bit of money over 16 years it won't make you rich because you will still only have a small amount of money. The same applies to the 9 tails chakra. Besides, it makes not sense for the 4th to design to seal to increase Naruto's charka to a huge amount when he has access to the 9 tails huge amount of chakra.

Jiraya, who know about the uzumaki clan, never told us the amount. He only stated it added to Naruto' chakra. Even Jiraya didn't know why the 4th designed the seal that way. Yes, the tiny amount he received would make it larger than it would be without it, but that wouldn't increase it to a large amount if it wasn't already a large amount. If you have 100 dollars and I give you 10 dollars you will have more than money than you previously did, but you won't be rich because you only increased by 10 dollars.

Kakashi did state that Naruto's large amount charka comes from the 9 tails, but he has never showed us he has any understanding of the uzumaki traits, he doesn't know more about the 4 element seal than scroll frog that's part of the seal, and he has been wrong about the 9 tails power before. A lot of people believe the 9 tail is the source of Naruto's healing ability, but that is incorrect. The 9 tails enhances Naruto's life force and healing ability just like it enhance the strength of his jutsu.

When Naruto faced Orochimaru during the chunin examine he used a 5 element seal to seal the 9 tails chakra and power -

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- Jiraya stated the seal stopped the 9 tails power and charka -

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- yet, when Orochimaru's seal was still in place Kakashi implied Naruto's healing ability came from the 9 tails -

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- Kakahis was wrong because Naruto didn't have access to the 9 tails power or chakra at the time. That means Naruto's healing ability comes from his own power and life force. Look at Kakashis statement, he was surprised of the 9 tails power. That proves he doesn't know the 9 tails' power or uzumaki's clan traits and he was assuming that was the 9 tail's power.

One of the best example of Naruto's powerful life force was during his 9 tails training-

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- The wood jutsu was reacting to Naruto's life force that's being enhanced by the 9 tails charka. Some people claimed that was the 9 tail doing, but they are incorrect. We has seen Yamato use his wood jutsu before when Naruto is using the 9 tail chakra and there was not reaction -

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The reason it reacted different during his training was because Naruto was using the 9 tails charka different. He learned to attach it to his will, as explained to him by scroll frog -

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- so now it gains Naruto's ability and powerful life force. It just enhance his life force just like it enhance his healing.

Once again you have chosen to ignore facts. This proves he don’t care facts at all. Yamato told us Naruto was able to handle the 9 tails poisonous chakra because of his ability -

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Other example: When the 4th sealed half of the 9 tails inside his body it made his body go numb -

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yet Naruto, even as a baby, wasn't affected by the 9 tails just being sealed in his body.

I'm saying Naruto had gained some of his father's and mother's traits. He was able to create the FRS. Not even his father was able to figure out how to shape an element at the highest level of shape manipulation. I have already provided example of Naruto gaining traits from his mother.

Sage did not imply Naruto didn’t gain any traits from his parent. He stated Naruto may not gain all of his parents traits.

I have once again defeat your BS thread. He can denied my facts and try to downplay Naruto's feats, but it won't change anything.

 

[solorflare99]

Yet he survived extraction? How stupid. Think before you post dumb threads.

 

[CrimsonReaper]

Your point? How does this debunk anything I've written. Explain.

he didn't die instantly he just fainted. :lol

 

[moist]

Not even going to debate

stupiiiiddddd

 

[Blackdeath667]

didn't read but your right

if he was full uzumaki he would have even more stamina
but obviously the uzumaki genes are still there

 

[ComplexCity]

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