Prime Hiruzen Sarutobi Abilities!!! (Must Read)

[MickNerks]

As you saw there was many scrolls to choose from and naruto was told to steal the scroll of seals. Also note that it was just one section of the room. There were many other scrolls there that could contain whatever however the one naruto stole was on purpose. Hiruzen clearly knew the contents of the scroll naruto stole to state how dangerous it can be:

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All the techniques in the room are what hashirama the leader of the clan hyped to be a clan with 1000 skills learnt. Also note that the Sarutobi are hyped to learn techniques very quickly and take into consideration Hiruzen's age and it makes sense for him to have been able to learn and master all those techniques, which gave birth to the 'Professor' Nickname

Sounds just about right.. Soo could it be said that he knows every tech i said except the clan techs. that makes it harder to know what he is truely capable of.. Its seems easier to measure his power if he knows all the techniques including clan techs.. but i believe you for now.

Good Job!!! and Thanks.

 

[MickNerks]

I dont have the time to tell you how many things are completely wrong about this thread. Nice try tho. I will say Hiruzen can not do the "Formation Ino–Shika–Chō" bc he cant do shadow techs as that is a bloodline limit of the Nara clan.

Good effort on this post.

its not a bloodline limit, its just a secret clan tech.. bloodline limits are kkg's

 

[startup97]

MickNerks, you are a legend!

 

[Danzo rapes Madara]

I doubt Hiruzen could use secret techniques knows to the clans. He never used Kikaichu.

 

[Omnipotent]

well answer this. Is the mystic palm technique known in the hidden leaf. If it is then hiruzen knows it, and its considered medical ninjutsu.



1. What does genin using the techniques have to due with anything.. That doesnt null my point at all, and you didnt even make a point with you statement. If hiruzen didnt use the technique it was most likely becuase it wasnt necesarry for the situation.

2. Why would they state it. what reason would they have to say hiruzen could use there techniques. When mentioning who can use rasengan kakashi's name was never mentioned. when the anbu and hiruzen discussed hashirama and his unique mokuton they never mentioned yamato's name. so that point you just made doesnt mean anything.

3. hiruzen was fighting with the entire village, he had the clans there so he wouldnt need to use them. And you didnt even see most of the fight, all they showed was hiruzen pushing nine tails out of the village and him getting ready to tank a TBB. Your not coming at me with any valid points that i should consider. The manga states that he is able to use all techniques from the hidden leaf, so thats what i believe. you haven come to me with any evidence to prove the manga wrong.



as soon as you show me were it says he knows all jutsu, not including the secret techniques, ill believe you.

Does Shikamaru have higher chakra reserves than Hiruzen, the Hokage? Or Shino? No.

They didn't state it. They actually state that it's clan exclusive. How would Hiruzen know it just because he's Hokage? Kakashi wasn't shown to be able to use rasengan until Part 2, that statement was from Part 1. Yamato wasn't introduced as a character yet.

Oh, so he can use byakugou? Don't even start.

 

[Hokage Fourth]

Hiruzen was a Strong Shinobi but compared to Hashirama..Just no and I think Minato is still stronger then 'Prime' Hiruzen

Strongest Hokage's

Hashirama
Minato
Hiruzen/Tobirama
Tobirama/Hiruzen
Tsunade

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Hiruzen sarutobi is stronger than senju tobirama.

I totally agree, Hiruzen is the better fighter compared to the two, Tobirama's legacy is more administrative.

 

[Bijuu13]

You sound retarded . According to you i bet he can use Perfect Sasanoo too

 

[the worlds Bane]

no im not..

Does the manga not say that he knows all jutsu that exist in the leaf?
Does the manga not say that he mastered all forms of shinobi combat?

If you put all the pieces the manga gave us together, then you get the he in his prime can do everything i stated.



The Gentle Fist (柔拳, Jūken) or Gentle Fist Art (柔拳法, Jūkenpō) is a form of hand-to-hand combat used by members of the Hyūga clan. It inflicts internal damage through attacking the body's Chakra Pathway System, subsequently injuring organs which are closely intertwined with the area of the network which has been struck. To do this, the user surgically injects a certain amount of their own chakra into the opponent's chakra pathway system, causing damage to surrounding organs due to their proximity to the chakra circulatory system. Even the slightest tap can cause severe internal damage, hence the name "gentle" fist.

You dont nessasarily need doujutsu to use it.. both tsunade and kabuto have dont simillar attacks just by knowing the human body's anatomy




hahaha.. i over exaggerated my point.. lol

so if he knows all techniqes in the leaf he should know FTG also since minato is from the hiden leaf and that not kkg and edo tensei since the second hokage is from the leaf so your saying that he know these techniqes and he thought he couldnt beat orochimaru now that means A0that statment is not 100% true or B)hes stupid as shit.

 

[lordryoko]

I am guessing Tales of Aquarion...imma referring to your sig...

 

[LegendaryAce]

Actually its you guys that do not understand Hiruzen learning all the jutsu's of Konoha. The jutsu's of konoha not the kg or hidden abilities. The jutsu's of konoha are the jutsu's that Hashirama/Tobirama left behind to the next generation of hokage's. Those are the jutsu's of konoha. When you become hokage, you get access to all these scrolls left behind by the previous hokage's. You can say the Jutsu's of konoha are the Senju clan's jutsu who were hailed as a clan with a 1000 skill.

Its these jutsu/scroll that naruto stole which contained the kage bunshin technique he learnt.

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Look careful at the amount of scroll that naruto was searching for on the scroll shelves. Those are the techniques on konoha and NOT hidden techniques and what not. Those are all senju techniques, left behind. In other words his hype is still viable, only if you can understand it

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I have so much respect for this guy! R e p

Just wondering seeing how hashirama was hokage and all ? Could he know 1000+ jutsu I mean he was sorta the leader of a clan that were good in every form of combat

Not starting anything just a question

 

[6pathofpain]

Even if all that is true(which it isn't) he.still can't see my nigga nagato. An it says hiruzen's chakra natures were fire an earth only, doewnt that counter the statement that he knows all leads jutsu's (the lightning an water ones)

 

[6pathofpain]

Actually its you guys that do not understand Hiruzen learning all the jutsu's of Konoha. The jutsu's of konoha not the kg or hidden abilities. The jutsu's of konoha are the jutsu's that Hashirama/Tobirama left behind to the next generation of hokage's. Those are the jutsu's of konoha. When you become hokage, you get access to all these scrolls left behind by the previous hokage's. You can say the Jutsu's of konoha are the Senju clan's jutsu who were hailed as a clan with a 1000 skill.

Its these jutsu/scroll that naruto stole which contained the kage bunshin technique he learnt.

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Look careful at the amount of scroll that naruto was searching for on the scroll shelves. Those are the techniques on konoha and NOT hidden techniques and what not. Those are all senju techniques, left behind. In other words his hype is still viable, only if you can understand it

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Hmmm, indeed I approve this message

 

[Positive Day]

You guys, Hiruzen may not be as powerful as Danzo, but he is definetly more powerful than Hashirama. It has been proven in this thread.

 

[KingHashirama]

Actually its you guys that do not understand Hiruzen learning all the jutsu's of Konoha. The jutsu's of konoha not the kg or hidden abilities. The jutsu's of konoha are the jutsu's that Hashirama/Tobirama left behind to the next generation of hokage's. Those are the jutsu's of konoha. When you become hokage, you get access to all these scrolls left behind by the previous hokage's. You can say the Jutsu's of konoha are the Senju clan's jutsu who were hailed as a clan with a 1000 skill.

Its these jutsu/scroll that naruto stole which contained the kage bunshin technique he learnt.

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All Konoha jutsus include every single jutsu used by a Shinobi of the village, Hashirama's mokuton, Minato's FTG, Tobirama's edo and S/T jutsu.

Too bad that is all false.

Also, in the databook scan you showed, it said only the Hokage and other few shinobis can use the Kage bunshin correctly.. But DUE TO THAT, the shodaime sealed it. ;]. Soo, it was sealed before Hiruzen. Unless your saying Hiruzen went on to study the forbidden jutsus. ;x.

 

[MickNerks]

MickNerks, you are a legend!

thanks buddy!!!

You sound retarded . According to you i bet he can use Perfect Sasanoo too

you sound retarded, becuase you need a sharingan to use Perfect susanoo, and i clearly stated that hiruzen cant use bloodline KKG's form the hidden leaf.

Hiruzen was a Strong Shinobi but compared to Hashirama..Just no and I think Minato is still stronger then 'Prime' Hiruzen

Strongest Hokage's

Hashirama
Minato
Hiruzen/Tobirama
Tobirama/Hiruzen
Tsunade

False.. Hiruzen in his prime is said to be stronger than minato and hashirama.. You still dont get it.smh

so if he knows all techniqes in the leaf he should know FTG also since minato is from the hiden leaf and that not kkg and edo tensei since the second hokage is from the leaf so your saying that he know these techniqes and he thought he couldnt beat orochimaru now that means A0that statment is not 100% true or B)hes stupid as shit.

false.. minato created FTG after hiruzen's prime. Hiruzen was said to learn all the techniques while in his prime. Edo Tension was a forbidden jutsu that the 2nd hokage created, only he knew it, so i doesnt suprise me that hiruzen never heard of it. And even if he did, hiruzen would never try to learn such a unmoral techinique. So, orochimaru's statement still holds true. Hiruzen knew all techniques from the leaf village.

I am guessing Tales of Aquarion...imma referring to your sig...

nope.. Kingdom Hearts.lol

You guys, Hiruzen may not be as powerful as Danzo, but he is definetly more powerful than Hashirama. It has been proven in this thread.

hahahhahhaa.. funny. danzo only wishes that he can be half as powerful as hiruzen in his prime.

 

[Omnipotent]

thanks buddy!!!



you sound retarded, becuase you need a sharingan to use Perfect susanoo, and i clearly stated that hiruzen cant use bloodline KKG's form the hidden leaf.



False.. Hiruzen in his prime is said to be stronger than minato and hashirama.. You still dont get it.smh



false.. minato created FTG after hiruzen's prime. Hiruzen was said to learn all the techniques while in his prime. Edo Tension was a forbidden jutsu that the 2nd hokage created, only he knew it, so i doesnt suprise me that hiruzen never heard of it. And even if he did, hiruzen would never try to learn such a unmoral techinique. So, orochimaru's statement still holds true. Hiruzen knew all techniques from the leaf village.



nope.. Kingdom Hearts.lol



hahahhahhaa.. funny. danzo only wishes that he can be half as powerful as hiruzen in his prime.

Show me where Hiruzen can use Byakugou, Tobirama's S/T jutsu, and FTG and I'll believe you. Heck, show me where he's shown using raiton or even fuuton.

"Only he knew it", no. Hiruzen recognized Edo Tensei. Know your stuff. Show me where he can use it. Statements from the Yondaime Kazekage, Nidaime Tsuchikaku, Kinkaku, Ginkaku, and Kabuto disagree with you; only Tobirama, Orochimaru and Kabuto know how to do it. And if I do remember Edo Tensei was a jutsu from Konoha, correct? Hiruzen should know it, by your logic, but because he doesn't, your logic makes no sense

 

[MickNerks]

All Konoha jutsus include every single jutsu used by a Shinobi of the village, Hashirama's mokuton, Minato's FTG, Tobirama's edo and S/T jutsu.

Too bad that is all false.

Also, in the databook scan you showed, it said only the Hokage and other few shinobis can use the Kage bunshin correctly.. But DUE TO THAT, the shodaime sealed it. ;]. Soo, it was sealed before Hiruzen. Unless your saying Hiruzen went on to study the forbidden jutsus. ;x.

1. Mokuton is a KKG which hiruzen wouldnt have had, FTG was created after hiruzens prime so he wouldnt have known it (he learned all tech while in his prime), Edo was kinjutsu the was created by tobirama, even if hiruzen was awair of it, he would have never attempted to learn it because of how unmoral it was.

2.I think he was saying that hiruzen studied forbidden jutsu's.

 

[Positive Day]

thanks buddy!!!



you sound retarded, becuase you need a sharingan to use Perfect susanoo, and i clearly stated that hiruzen cant use bloodline KKG's form the hidden leaf.



False.. Hiruzen in his prime is said to be stronger than minato and hashirama.. You still dont get it.smh



false.. minato created FTG after hiruzen's prime. Hiruzen was said to learn all the techniques while in his prime. Edo Tension was a forbidden jutsu that the 2nd hokage created, only he knew it, so i doesnt suprise me that hiruzen never heard of it. And even if he did, hiruzen would never try to learn such a unmoral techinique. So, orochimaru's statement still holds true. Hiruzen knew all techniques from the leaf village.



nope.. Kingdom Hearts.lol



hahahhahhaa.. funny. danzo only wishes that he can be half as powerful as hiruzen in his prime.

KA /endthread

 

[MickNerks]

Show me where Hiruzen can use Byakugou, Tobirama's S/T jutsu, and FTG and I'll believe you. Heck, show me where he's shown using raiton or even fuuton.

Are you slow???

I never said in this entire thread that hiruzen could use KKG. I've been saying that this entire time.

1. When you tell me what s/t technique tobirama can do, than ill tell you if hiruzen can do it or not. Oh wait, you cant because no1 knows other than tobirama and minato. Stop being a SMART @$$!!!

2. FTG was created after hiruzens prime. He was said to have mastered and learned all the jutsu in his prime. Therefore he wouldnt know FTG.

3. Here's your proof that he can use fuuton and raiton:

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If he can use all justu in the leaf, (which he hasnt denied) then he can use fuuton and raiton. His own son (asuma) knows "wind release - Dust cloud technique", so why would hiruzen be able to use it. Stop ignoring manga fact!!!! HE KNOWS ALL JUSTU IN THE LEAF.