Prime Hiruzen Sarutobi Abilities!!! (Must Read)
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Great point.. And to add on to what you said, kakashi is said to have 4 of the 5 chakra nature, so i dont see why its so difficult to believe that hiruzen has all 5 natures. Do people just think he was called the professor because he had gray hair??lol
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Byakugou isn't a KKG -_-. Slow that down, man. And Hiruzen still can't use it.
No, you said every jutsu in Konoha. Why would Minato know and Hiruzen not? I mean, Tobirama was Hiruzen's sensei, NOT Minato's sensei. Exactly.
So Hiruzen lost his ability to learn jutsu?
Show me a scan where he uses either a fuuton or raiton jutsu. Because you obviously don't know what a hyperbole is.
Wasn't it 3 of them that took to use FTG? It was kind of cool, actually, to see that Minato's not that high-up. If Hiruzen had S/T jutsu, why was he never stated to have it? If Minato knew of Tobirama possessing S/T, do you really think he wouldn't have known about Hiruzen? Furthermore, when Minato used an S/T barrier to move away Kurama's TBB, people immediately recognized it as him although Hiruzen was still 57, and up and running.
Does he have the natural affinity for it? Is it one of his nature types? Has he been shown using it EVER?! I'm pretty sure raiton would have aided him against Edo Tobirama. Unless you're saying he's an imbecile for not even knowing to use that to his advantage.
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What are you talking about.. The byakugan IS a KKG. oh wait.. Your talking about tsunades technique.lol Im talking about the byakugan.
The Byakugan (白眼; Literally meaning "White Eye", Meaning (Viz) "All Seeing White Eye") is the dōjutsu kekkei genkai of the Hyūga clan.
Minato and tobirama dont know the same s/t jutsu. Where are you getting your info from. Please show me the manga page that says they have the same s/t jutsu.. Please go gather real facts then come back to argue with me. Nothing you are saying makes any sense.
Please understand this.. All of hiruzens hype and legend comes from when he was in his prime. He took the time to learn and master all jutsu in the leaf while he was in his prime. No evidence in the manga suggest that he learned anything in his 60's. So until you bring proof that he did try to learn a technique past his prime then please stop trying to argue..
ok so since i dont know what a hyperbole is, please explain to me what they meant when they said that hiruzen knew and could use all the jutsu in the hidden leaf????
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The hell?! Copy and paste, again?
BYAKUGOU:
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Which is NOT a KKG, which Hiruzen can NOT use.
I said that Minato knew of Tobirama's S/T jutsu, so it's only logical that Hiruzen knew of his S/T jutsu as well. Which by your logic (knowing something = knowing how to do something) means he knows how to use Tobirama's S/T as well. It doesn't make sense to you because you can't comprehend.
Yet again, Orochimaru's use of hyperbole.
Once again, show me a scan where he uses either fuuton or raiton jutsu. I'm waiting. A hyperbole is exaggeration to the extremity.
You don't know the difference between Byakugou and Byakugan, man.
1. I think he knows what im talking about. byakugan the dojutsu.
2. I know what a hyperbole is.lol I want to know what part of "said to have learned and can use all jutsu in the leaf", he though was being exagerated. It sounded like a statement to me.
OMG, i misspelled it by forgetting one letter and you try to make me look stupid.smh i spelled byakugon instead of byukagan and you thought i was talking about tsunades technique which ends with a "U".. lets be serious, are you trolling me??
i never said that if you know something you know how to do it. Orochimaru said that he "learned and could use" which means he knew of them and could use them. Those are not my words, there orochimaru's. But you do make a point, if minato knew about it the hiruzen should know about it to. But we dont know if he knows about it or not. He could know how to do it as well.
We didnt learn tobirama could use s/t till part 2, so obviously kishi didnt decide to give him the ability yet.
I cant show you a scan because we have never seen him use it. But you cant show me a scan that condradicts the information given in the manga about him knowing all jutsu which would mean he knows all elements.. That just like you can show me a scan that shows that hashirama can heal himself without handsigns, yet because madara stated it you believe it.
yes i do. I spelled it right except i put a O instead of A. You know what i meant.
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Yes its possible likely that Hashirama was vastly knowledgeable and mastered all forms of art, if he was to the leader of such a clan he has to be, same can be said for Hiruzen. Hiruzen's score of 5 for all 3 forms of ninja art is a demonstration of the knowledge he gained from the head and vice head of the senju clan
Yes hiden techniques can be learnt outside the clan, however that isn't how they work. Hidden techniques are techniques passed down within a clan and not outside it
Ow its kingHashirama, actually thought if i should bypass you
.Again ive eplained what these konoha jutsu's are. Yes the scroll was sealed however it was left to the next generation of hokage's and its in the hokage room that naruto stole it from. You claim they are forbidden techniques?. Its the scroll of seals, which could contain very powerful fuinjutsu's and that is why hiruzen was particularly worried the nine tails. Also seem to forget that forbidden technique's are not nessarily 'evil' technique's. Forbidden techniques can range from evil techniques, to double edged techniques like hachimon or the mass clone technique. Btw going by how the manga categorises kinjutsu's, shiki fujin would be labelled a kinjutsu and both Hiruzen and Minato knew how to demonstrate them
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You've explained them according to you. But SCROLL OF SEALS = Forbidden techs. And also, "it was left for the next generation of Hokages".. uh no. The jutsus inside that scroll are forbidden no matter who you are. Now going by how it is stated in the Databook, you cannot assume the scroll jutsus were left for other Hokages to use. And also, Hokage's place is the safest place... lol.Ow its kingHashirama, actually thought if i should bypass you
Again ive eplained what these konoha jutsu's are. Yes the scroll was sealed however it was left to the next generation of hokage's and its in the hokage room that naruto stole it from. You claim they are forbidden techniques?. Its the scroll of seals, which could contain very powerful fuinjutsu's and that is why hiruzen was particularly worried the nine tails. Also seem to forget that forbidden technique's are not nessarily 'evil' technique's. Forbidden techniques can range from evil techniques, to double edged techniques like hachimon or the mass clone technique. Btw going by how the manga categorises kinjutsu's, shiki fujin would be labelled a kinjutsu and both Hiruzen and Minato knew how to demonstrate them
Never called "Forbidden techniques" evil. But dangerous.
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Again to be forbidden doesn't have to be 'evil' but rather double edged. It was kept in the hokage's room and going by his reactions when he found that naruto stole it, he was worried possible because he knew what they contain.
OP in the end the people i thought would come to your aid didn't. Damn Hiruzen fans, you flee in the midst of the enemy
. On a more serious note, ill show you guys two things. Every village, has techniques that are trademark to that village. Ill repeat. Every village has techniques that are trademark to that village. The next two techniques im about to show you are trademark techniques of konoha, before somebody tries and pick me off saying kurenai/Gekkou do not have access to these scrolls to learn the technique's, it doesn't necessarily have to be only in the scrolls
First is Kurenai's Magen Jubaku Satsu.
GENJUTSU; Magen: Jubaku Satsu (Genjutsu; Demonic Illusion: Woodbound Assassination)
User: Yuuhi Kurenai
Supplementary; Close range; Rank: B
Main text
One of the genjutsu that have been passed along since ancient times in Konoha. One is completely robbed of their mobility as they see the mirage of a tree coiling itself around them! Given that the subject remains conscious, this jutsu proves extremely efficient for information-gathering.
Second 2, p 275
User: Yuuhi Kurenai
Supplementary; Close range; Rank: B
Main text
One of the genjutsu that have been passed along since ancient times in Konoha. One is completely robbed of their mobility as they see the mirage of a tree coiling itself around them! Given that the subject remains conscious, this jutsu proves extremely efficient for information-gathering.
Second 2, p 275
"One of the genjutsu that have been passed along since the ancient times of konoha"
Another example is Gekkou Hayate's, Mikazuki no Mai [
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[/URL]Leaf-Style Dance of the Crescent Moon= Konoha-Ryū Mikazuki no Mai
NINJUTSU; Mikazuki no Mai (Triple Dance of the Crescent Moon*)
User: Gekkou Hayate
Offensive; Close range; Rank: A
Main text
The caster Kage Bunshins into three individuals, and each one of them assaults the enemy from a blind spot! The attack occurs on three fronts simultaneously, so it's almost impossible to catch them flat-footed. Furthermore, the mighty attacks are so severe that receiving a blow even from one among the three will inevitably result in a fatal wound. In addition, because of the magnificence this ninjutsu projects as they jump at the opponent's upper body in an orbital pattern, the elegance of which is reminiscent of the shape of a new moon, it is referred to with the brand name "Triple Dance of the Crescent Moon".
Databook 1, p 223
User: Gekkou Hayate
Offensive; Close range; Rank: A
Main text
The caster Kage Bunshins into three individuals, and each one of them assaults the enemy from a blind spot! The attack occurs on three fronts simultaneously, so it's almost impossible to catch them flat-footed. Furthermore, the mighty attacks are so severe that receiving a blow even from one among the three will inevitably result in a fatal wound. In addition, because of the magnificence this ninjutsu projects as they jump at the opponent's upper body in an orbital pattern, the elegance of which is reminiscent of the shape of a new moon, it is referred to with the brand name "Triple Dance of the Crescent Moon".
Databook 1, p 223
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Kid you need to relax, your just making assumptions you want to believe,this is manga and the author can make anyone the strongest,reminds me of the old argument of bats and supes,,
So chill mate,leave your room and hang out with friends before you get depressed
So chill mate,leave your room and hang out with friends before you get depressed
