Prime Hanzo could defeat SM Naruto

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

Ok I will without [particular order]
1. Naruto BM (FRS, chakra arms from a distance, TBB)
2.Itachi (Amateratsu KO)
3.Sasuke (Amateratsu KO)
4. Obito (does Kamui dimension to avoid poison)
5.Madara (don't need to explain this)
6.Hashirama (don't even need to explain this)
7.Nagato (can levitate, use Shinra Tensei to repel poison, and a forever ongoing list)
8. BM Minato (Can blast a TBB, or use chakra arms from a distance to slice Hanzo up)
9. Onoki (levitate, long range Jinton)
10. Bee (Insta TBB ko)
11.Mu (can levitate, use Jinton from distance)
12. Gaara (can fly with sand, and fight from a range)
13. Deidera (avoids poison by flying)
14. Kakashi (insta-ko with Kamui)
15. Sasori (immune to poison, has iron sand)
Need I go on? I didn't even attempt to insult you.. you were simply being fallacious to believe he was in the same tier as them. It is delusional that you even state Itachi (needs intel/Hanzo can win with intel) since a single Amateratsu is all it takes to end it. Your point is invalid, he is not top 15, speculation doesn't help you see who can and can't beat a character, it can simply give you n overview of where your character stands.

Okay that's great and all but hey hey I wasn't saying you were trying to insult me, just saying not being able to beat DSM Kabuto & Madara like you said doesn't make him anything less than a strong ninja because those previous names are ridiculously powerful.

And yeah, fair enough. That's your personal list and there's a bunch of names in there I can't see defeating Hanzo but that's fine too. Different lists. It really sucks how there isn't more proof of Hanzo's skill, only having 1 shown fight and it being in his old age against a man who is tolerant against his poison isn't fantastic yknow?. Especially when it was a fight of words and not weapons, kinda sucks for us Hanzo fans- still we make do with what we've got, no need to be using words like 'delusional.' Just a little speculation on a ninja who doesn't get enough love. He was still the strongest ninja of his age.

 

[KGB Kakuzu]

Ok I will without [particular order]
1. Naruto BM (FRS, chakra arms from a distance, TBB)
2.Itachi (Amateratsu KO)
3.Sasuke (Amateratsu KO)
4. Obito (does Kamui dimension to avoid poison)
5.Madara (don't need to explain this)
6.Hashirama (don't even need to explain this)
7.Nagato (can levitate, use Shinra Tensei to repel poison, and a forever ongoing list)
8. BM Minato (Can blast a TBB, or use chakra arms from a distance to slice Hanzo up)
9. Onoki (levitate, long range Jinton)
10. Bee (Insta TBB ko)
11.Mu (can levitate, use Jinton from distance)
12. Gaara (can fly with sand, and fight from a range)
13. Deidera (avoids poison by flying)
14. Kakashi (insta-ko with Kamui)
15. Sasori (immune to poison, has iron sand)
Need I go on? I didn't even attempt to insult you.. you were simply being fallacious to believe he was in the same tier as them. It is delusional that you even state Itachi (needs intel/Hanzo can win with intel) since a single Amateratsu is all it takes to end it. Your point is invalid, he is not top 15, speculation doesn't help you see who can and can't beat a character, it can simply give you n overview of where your character stands.

Hanzo was regarded as the strongest of his time.

His time ironically coincides closely with that of Hiruzen.


Nagato: 45ish

Hiruzen: 60ish

Yahiko death: around probably 20

Hanzo is a village leader: probably late 30's


Hanzo > Hiruzen who was regarded as the strongest Kage of his time.


Hiruzen > the 3rd Raikage, 3rd Kazekage, 3rd Mizukage, 3rd Tsuchikage

Or

Hiruzen > 4th Raikage, 4th Kazekage, 3rd Tsuchikage, 4th Mizukage

Depends on if the statement referred to the Sandaime generation, or current Kage at the time: which means old Hiruzen was stronger than them.


So based on the rumor of his power.... Hanzo was a complete badass

 

[-Spoiler-]

Okay that's great and all but hey hey I wasn't saying you were trying to insult me, just saying not being able to beat DSM Kabuto & Madara like you said doesn't make him anything less than a strong ninja because those previous names are ridiculously powerful.

And yeah, fair enough. That's your personal list and there's a bunch of names in there I can't see defeating Hanzo but that's fine too. Different lists. It really sucks how there isn't more proof of Hanzo's skill, only having 1 shown fight and it being in his old age against a man who is tolerant against his poison isn't fantastic yknow?. Especially when it was a fight of words and not weapons, kinda sucks for us Hanzo fans- still we make do with what we've got, no need to be using words like 'delusional.' Just a little speculation on a ninja who doesn't get enough love. He was still the strongest ninja of his age.

like who everybody on that list fodderize hanzo.

 

[Xāvî1]

yeah too bad that Mifune soloed him

 

[xxSAGExx]

Hanzo was one of the strongest ninja in the series. He was the leader of the old Rain village.

He also has some pretty impressive feats

-Single handly defeat the sannin+konoha forces.
-Made leader of his own village
-Beat Mifune
-Beat Chiyo
-Broke Rinngenn nagato legs


Not sure if he ever encounter madara.


But prime hanzo + Ibuse could defeat naruto.

Hanzo is underrate and could beat SN Naruto but Naruto could beat him as well. Hanzo has the battle experience against Naruto but Naruto has his own unique ways of fighting which helped Naruto beat people stronger than him. SM Naruto is Perfect SM with Ma and Pa fused to him because Kurama not going to stop that anymore so frog song, That water slicing jutsu Pa toad used to slice Pain's lizard in half, boiling oil (oil+fire+wind), aid in strategy making, Ma toad tongue which can sense you then surround you, squirt some fluid on you (oil maybe?) then slam you into the ground like she did the invisible lizard of Pain) plus Unlimited SM.

Naruto has Shadow clones to aid him in this as well. Naruto can sense Hanzo's summon underground as well, he wouldn't know to at first but after it attacks then he would. Great thing is, unless you have the Sharingan, you can't tell the real Naruto from the clone so that's how Naruto doesn't get beat with attacks he doesn't know about and throws rasenshurikens from the clones to hit Hanzo. Naruto uses his clones like this

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[VongolaX]

Did you forget that the sages didn't have sagemode then?

Or the fact that pain butt raped Hanzo?

Since sagemode naruto/six tails beat pain.


Sm naruto>>>>Hanzo

 

[xxSAGExx]

Actually he defeated a Handicapped Pain.

1. Deva was down.

2. The minute Deva returned, Naruto got wrecked.

3. It took losing control and Kurama taking over to free him.

4. Oh he fought Nagato after he solo'd Konoha


Naruto defeated Pain, but he wasn't stronger.

That's like saying base Naruto > Kakuzu

When we know Base Naruto struggled fighting Kakashi, whom Kakuzu manhandled.

Only thing I'm going to comment on is that Naruto is stronger when he fought Kakuzu than when he fought Kakashi. After that fight, Kakashi said Naruto could stand by him (being even) or even surpassed him. Naruto can properly use his shaow clones now

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and here is where Kakashi rates Naruto's power

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. That is before learning SM

 

[~Uzumaki~]

The Sannin were young
Pain lost a few paths in beating Jiraiya. Jiraiya still killed Animal path with only one hand and the full six paths present. Hanzo could kill a single one before he was dispatched.
SM Naruto can sense Ibuse's presence underground, Hanzo seems to favor close quarters so he gets killed by frog Kata.

 

[6ari8]

SM Naruto beats him at mid-difficulty at most.

The sannin weren't at their prime at the time. It simply is that they made a name for themselves at that war. Like wise, Kakashi became famous at the 3rd ninja war but he was not at his prime then.

This is proven by Orochimaru waiting to gain enough strength to destroy Konoha. If he was at his prime then, he wouldn't have waited so long.

 

[NarutoIndra]

Hanzo was regarded as the strongest of his time.

His time ironically coincides closely with that of Hiruzen.


Nagato: 45ish

Hiruzen: 60ish

Yahiko death: around probably 20

Hanzo is a village leader: probably late 30's


Hanzo > Hiruzen who was regarded as the strongest Kage of his time.


Hiruzen > the 3rd Raikage, 3rd Kazekage, 3rd Mizukage, 3rd Tsuchikage

Or

Hiruzen > 4th Raikage, 4th Kazekage, 3rd Tsuchikage, 4th Mizukage

Depends on if the statement referred to the Sandaime generation, or current Kage at the time: which means old Hiruzen was stronger than them.


So based on the rumor of his power.... Hanzo was a complete badass

True.. Based on Rumour, Hiruzen was a god

 

[Silverblade]

Sage Mode Naruto without Kurama would shitstomp Hanzo.

 

[KingHashirama]

You forgot beat Sannin and Konoha forces without a scratch.

Crippled Nagato and evaded the Gedo Mazo.

Was still a challenge for Mifune despite being rusty from years of hiding

Even whilst fighting Pain, Jiraiya couldn't believe Hanzo was defeated (Jiraiya even having to figure in his own strength at that point).




Hanzo is a boss U.U

Its funny how the Sanin in their prime, weren't at their strongest =D. But at old age are stronger.

 

[Smd]

yeah too bad that Mifune soloed him

to bad hanzo soloed him first then let him live.

gg

 

[KGB Kakuzu]

Its funny how the Sanin in their prime, weren't at their strongest =D. But at old age are stronger.

While Orochimaru certainly wasn't. There's no proof either way that Jiraiya and Tsunade were/weren't.


Considering Jiraiya FIGHTING PAIN couldn't believe Hanzo lost is a testament to Hanzo's full force. Meaning even SM Jiraiya didn't feel 100% confident about beating out Hanzo.

 

[KingHashirama]

While Orochimaru certainly wasn't. There's no proof either way that Jiraiya and Tsunade were/weren't.


Considering Jiraiya FIGHTING PAIN couldn't believe Hanzo lost is a testament to Hanzo's full force. Meaning even SM Jiraiya didn't feel 100% confident about beating out Hanzo.

Sadly people by now haven't realized that it is the 6 Paths that make it so hard to beat Nagato. X_X.

And Jiraiya was just shocked at that he beat Hanzo.

And I'm just saying that the current Sanin weren't in their primes according to Tsunade, since they were now over 50+.

 

[Xlad]

I choose number 69 Peter.

smd/fl cl 724/clareluvscooters has done it again.

 

[End of Days]

Hanzo mostly relies on poison to win and he does it by salamander summon ibuse who spews it out, though it needs time

FRS creates powerful wind sphere and blows away all the surrounding air, there goes his poison cloud

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and being naruto being a sensor sneak attacks from below are useless

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and then he tries to inject poison directly by using his Kusarigama, i dont think i need to say what will happen if hanzo tries to get close, invisible frog kata, oodama rasengans, you take your pick, either would one-shot hanzo

and as for his paper bombs, if nagato didnt have to save konan, he would've used powerful shinra tensei and saved himself, it was also prepared before hand

 

[Xlad]

Spoiler

Hanzo mostly relies on poison to win and he does it by salamander summon ibuse who spews it out, though it needs time

FRS creates powerful wind sphere and blows away all the surrounding air, there goes his poison cloud

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and being naruto being a sensor sneak attacks from below are useless

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and then he tries to inject poison directly by using his Kusarigama, i dont think i need to say what will happen if hanzo tries to get close, invisible frog kata, oodama rasengans, you take your pick, either would one-shot hanzo

and as for his paper bombs, if nagato didnt have to save konan, he would've used powerful shinra tensei and saved himself, it was also prepared before hand

Lol. All you're going get is "didn't read the op" or all that kinda stuff.

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Nice sig btw.

 

[xxSAGExx]

by who's said logic?

Ms sasuke is stronger and different than SM naruto as proven.

MS sasuke has to many instant attacks and sussano to lose.

Sharagin would detect ibuse posion and hanzo posion.

Wrong, unless the poison is chakra infused then sasuke sharingan wouldn't detect it in any special way, he would be like anyone else. But if it s chakra infuse then SM can sense it and seeing how attacks by summons are usually chakra infused like ninjas, Naruto can sense it. Zetsu even said Naruto was stronger than MS Sasuke and that's Naruto without Ma and Pa fusion and Sasuke without Susanoo. Kabuto aready showed sound genjutsu is taking down Susanoo so SM>MS.

Naruto has clones to distract Hanzo and/or attack for different directions.

This.its not even about ABC logic.j-man+tsunade+orochimaru>sm naruto low diff.if hanzo could beat them all without even sweating there's no way he loses to sage mode.

Who to Say SM can't beat Jiraiya+Tsunade+Orochimaru? SM with Ma and Pa toad means infinite chakra so make 5 clones and fight them 2 vs 1. Naruto senses Tsunade's attacks, dodge and counters her with frog kata and either 1 hits her or severely injure her. She would need her Mark on to heal from the wounds but even with it on the same thing would keep happening until she's out of chakra but since there's 2 clones that means Ma can use dust cloud to blind Tsunade's sight then her tongue to grab Tsunade and slam her into the ground while a rasenshuriken from the other clone hits her.

For Jiraiya, Naruto has the Ma and Pa so no SM for him. Fire jutsu is blocked by Pa toad's water jutsu and when he gets in close K.O with frog kata (Jiraiya is trained to see the natural energy but how can he block it when Naruto senses his attack, dodge and counter?). Ma toad tongue can grab Jiraiya and swings him into a coming rasenshuriken (Pain even said how fast Ma tongue was when she attacked the lizard). There's also Oodama rasengan barriage.

Orochimaru snakes get blown apart from rasenshuriken and can dodge Oro's sword with his senses. Due to Oro's regenerating skills, Naruto would have to keep forcing Oro to use rebirth (shedding) which use up a lot of chakra or use Frog song to trap him then hit him with rasenshuriken which cuts all of Oro's chakra network which means no more chakra or bringing himself back. All of the clones have Ma and Pa toad clones so all can just use frog song as well. Plus there's boiling oil (fire+oil+wind) which would burn them.

Sm naruto can sense the posion sack gland of the Black Salamander in Hanzo stomach?

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

True.. Based on Rumour, Hiruzen was a god

There is a difference though. Hiruzen was a kage but his hype wasn't related to his actual actions or what he was able to accomplish, they're all just about his non-specific strength in his prime.

Hanzo's is how he actually went out and did things. And we've had proof that he managed to destroy a Sannin troop, be too much for Chiyo and Mifune and the fact that his power led his country against war against the great nations. You think a village like the Rain could fight the Leaf in war without someone like Hanzo leading them? We don't know how much damage Hiruzen's thousands of jutsu could do but we do know how much Hanzo's poison could.

It's hype, but it's not baseless hype like Hiruzen that we've only heard about and can be used in debates to an extent.