Prime Hanzo could defeat SM Naruto

[juzumaki]

Kid you don't even KNOW Hanzo. Old age Hanzo could do it.

You're just a Naruto fanboy.

child this thread is about prime hanzo vs sm naruto and your sayong hes being underestimated

 

[solo king]

I did, majority wasn't anything you can add to a debate. A>B>C logic doesn't work in Naruto. Tell me when you see an argument saying Hanzo>Mifune so Hanzo>Hebi Sasuke. For one, it isn't true, and second of all it doesn't make sense. He has exactly 2 jutsu's, an explosive tag jutsu which anyone can pull off and a summoning which gets solo'd by a single FRS. 2 Feats<Naruto SM feats. He beat Sannin, but he showed no feats, so you can't say anything other than hype, unless of course, you can make an argument of how he defeats SM Naruto with feats. He beat Mifune, it's simply proof of great Kenjutsu. He burned a young childs legs, good for him. Him being leader does't mean anything, since he has no feats to back up his position other than beating the Sanin with unknown means. Beat Chiyo.. Cool, once again no feats were displayed.

SM has FRS, give me reasoning to how he escapes this. Naruto creates Kage Bunshins and uses rasengan barrage on Mifune, even if poison is released, there is no way it will get into their systems before they hit him with the rasengans, unless you can show me impressive feats of Ibuse's poison going through the body quickly. Ibuse going underground isn't an option, Naruto would sense it since he's in SM. Naruto only needs 1 FRS to win this match up, that is all.

Clearly you don't remember early shippuden,when hashi got hype from yamato.people were putting him in top 20s with no feats except a weakling using his power and losing every fight he got in.

Jutsu shown or not,Hanzo has better solo feats then sm naruto.deal with it

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

child this thread is about prime hanzo vs sm naruto and your sayong hes being underestimated

Yeah? So? Naruto SM is a high tier ninja, Prime Hanzo is a Top Tier Ninja.

Stop repeating that like it actually means something and wake up from your little Naruto Bias coma. Hanzo can and did defeat ninja stronger than SM Naruto.

 

[Smd]

Yeah? So? Naruto SM is a high tier ninja, Prime Hanzo is a Top Tier Ninja.

Stop repeating that like it actually means something and wake up from your little Naruto Bias coma. Hanzo can and did defeat ninja stronger than SM Naruto.

im not allowed to argue with fanboys.

 

[Transcendence]

so how would he stop it when.

Mifune
Chiyo
Jairaya
Tsunade
Orochimaru
Yahiko

couldn't


he let them all live after defeating them

SM Naruto is more powerful than all of those people discounting the use of Edo Tensei in Orochimaru's case. Not seeing an argument here.

 

[Transcendence]

Yeah? So? Naruto SM is a high tier ninja, Prime Hanzo is a Top Tier Ninja.

Stop repeating that like it actually means something and wake up from your little Naruto Bias coma. Hanzo can and did defeat ninja stronger than SM Naruto.

Name one. It seems like your bias is clouding your judgment.

 

[solo king]

Yeah? So? Naruto SM is a high tier ninja, Prime Hanzo is a Top Tier Ninja.

Stop repeating that like it actually means something and wake up from your little Naruto Bias coma. Hanzo can and did defeat ninja stronger than SM Naruto.

This.its not even about ABC logic.j-man+tsunade+orochimaru>sm naruto low diff.if hanzo could beat them all without even sweating there's no way he loses to sage mode.

 

[NarutoIndra]

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Only because not many people have bothered to look into him. I made a thread a while back with pretty good links to the manga as to how he was by far the strongest ninja of his era.

Also what we already know is more than enough to make him top 15. The poison alone is such a deciding factor that we don't really need feats.

-The ultimate poison, can be aimed and shot at enemies from long ranges (only special cases can survive)
-Flawless Kenjutsu skills (was able to keep up with a sword master with just a scythe even in his senile old age)
-Strong Summon (just makes his original power even more catastrophic)
-Everybody who has mentioned him is sh*t scared of him.
-Owned the entire 2nd Shinobi war...it was literally his war.
-Death was only done in his senile old age caught offguard and by an opponent his poison would do nothing against.

Prime Hanzo is Top Tier amongst Madara, current Naruto, DSM Kabuto and Itachi- I really believe that. SM Naruto is barely high tier. (The tier below Top)

...He's underrated severely and should be talked about as much as people do with Muu.

Lol.. Top 15? This is quite amusing. Once again, you are only speaking of events he has taken part of without showing his actual abilities within them. The only thing that is notable is his poison, which can be prevented with Taje Kage Bunshins. Naruto could simply spread out over a large area, thus making Hanzo assume who his target is. I am confident the hand seals required for Kage Bunshins are quicker than the signs required for summoning and than the summoning using a slow moving poison. Moreover, this ability can only be used once every

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, meaning Hanzo loses if he misses as no other feat has shown to capably defeat Naruto. Furthermore, Naruto can use FRS after poison cloud is released to move it away and disperse it as to decrease its lethality, and slightly move it away omnidirectionally.
-People being scared- not a feat
-Owned the second shin obi war-not a feat
-Him dying to Deva Path-not a personal feat
Madara, DSM Kabuto, and Itachi all take him without any difficulty, I don't know what you are going on about.
He's not underrated, he's just given the credit for the feats he has. This becoming more and more like a hype Hiruzen thread where everyone blabs about how he is >Madara because he is considered the God of Shinobi.

Clearly you don't remember early shippuden,when hashi got hype from yamato.people were putting him in top 20s with no feats except a weakling using his power and losing every fight he got in.

Jutsu shown or not,Hanzo has better solo feats then sm naruto.deal with it

You just proved to me you are judging the match out of pure hype. You technically just told me you believe Itachi>Juubito because all of Obito's attacks lose meaning in front of Yata while all of Juubito's defensive abilities lose their meaning in front of Totsuka. I really couldn't care less if Yamato hyped Hashi, at the end of the day, anyone believing in that hype debates without using feats, but rather uses hype. FRS is faster than poison cloud, so SM Naruto even has better solo feats.

deal with it

 

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This.its not even about ABC logic.j-man+tsunade+orochimaru>sm naruto low diff.if hanzo could beat them all without even sweating there's no way he loses to sage mode.

funny when the got the name sannin they weren't in their prime yet and perfect SM naruto> Imperfect SM Jman. hanzo lack feats to show that he could beat SM naruto. fight in the fodder ninja wars is nothing.

 

[Smd]

SM Naruto is more powerful than all of those people discounting the use of Edo Tensei in Orochimaru's case. Not seeing an argument here.

vintage Transcendence.

Calling others baised, when being baised.


You haven't answered not one question like usual

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

Lol.. Top 15? This is quite amusing. Once again, you are only speaking of events he has taken part of without showing his actual abilities within them. The only thing that is notable is his poison, which can be prevented with Taje Kage Bunshins. Naruto could simply spread out over a large area, thus making Hanzo assume who his target is. I am confident the hand seals required for Kage Bunshins are quicker than the signs required for summoning and than the summoning using a slow moving poison. Moreover, this ability can only be used once every

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, meaning Hanzo loses if he misses as no other feat has shown to capably defeat Naruto. Furthermore, Naruto can use FRS after poison cloud is released to move it away and disperse it as to decrease its lethality, and slightly move it away omnidirectionally.
-People being scared- not a feat
-Owned the second shin obi war-not a feat
-Him dying to Deva Path-not a personal feat
Madara, DSM Kabuto, and Itachi all take him without any difficulty, I don't know what you are going on about.
He's not underrated, he's just given the credit for the feats he has. This becoming more and more like a hype Hiruzen thread where everyone blabs about how he is >Madara because he is considered the God of Shinobi.

I wasn't actually talking about Naruto and stuff, I just mean his treatment in general. Can you tell me how top 15 isn't fair?
My point was that he doesn't need feats because what we know about his skills already without further detail or speculation is more than enough.

And yeah of course Madara, Itachi (with intel maybe) and DSM Kabuto beat him -.-

but that's because they're top tier also. You don't understand how tiers work apparently. Also is not being able to beat those 3 really such an insult? They're ridiculously powerful.

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

Name one. It seems like your bias is clouding your judgment.

All 3 Sannin and their troop of ninja. They were middle aged and would've had their summonings. Hanzo didn't even look tired and let them live.

 

[Transcendence]

vintage Transcendence.

Calling others baised, when being baised.


You haven't answered not one question like usual

Your opinion on me and my "vintage" self (which is completely incorrect) doesn't mean anything in this thread.

You proposed that Hanzo (Prime) could defeat SM Naruto and gave leeway to the argument by listing people who he beat, who are fundamentally weaker than SM Naruto nigh Edo Tensei powered Orochimaru which wasn't the variant Hanzo defeated. I said SM Naruto would win and disagree with this thread's proposition. But alas... SMD does it once more. You have to realize that insulting and forcing your opinion on everyone and everything doesn't mean you're right. But I'll let you learn that for yourself.

All 3 Sannin and their troop of ninja. They were middle aged and would've had their summonings. Hanzo didn't even look tired and let them live.

There is no evidence that they had their summonings at the time. They were young and there was no visible Yin Seal from Tsunade, meaning they weren't anywhere near their primes at all. Jiraiya's SM was absent, giving more of a chance that he obtained it later on. And Orochimaru was still "good" at the time.

 

[Smd]

Your opinion on me and my "vintage" self (which is completely incorrect) doesn't mean anything in this thread.

You proposed that Hanzo (Prime) could defeat SM Naruto and gave leeway to the argument by listing people who he beat, who are fundamentally weaker than SM Naruto nigh Edo Tensei powered Orochimaru which wasn't the variant Hanzo defeated. I said SM Naruto would win and disagree with this thread's proposition. But alas... SMD does it once more. You have to realize that insulting and forcing your opinion on everyone and everything doesn't mean you're right. But I'll let you learn that for yourself.

didn't read after first sentence.

apparently you don't know what vintage means.

Sm naruto would be defeated by Hanzo Via Posion.

So you can leave now

 

[Blitz3d]

Sasuke fanboys wank thread

 

[Transcendence]

didn't read after first sentence.

apparently you don't know what vintage means.

Sm naruto would be defeated by Hanzo Via Posion.

So you can leave now

See? There's you forcing your opinion again... Laughable.

 

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Your opinion on me and my "vintage" self (which is completely incorrect) doesn't mean anything in this thread.

You proposed that Hanzo (Prime) could defeat SM Naruto and gave leeway to the argument by listing people who he beat, who are fundamentally weaker than SM Naruto nigh Edo Tensei powered Orochimaru which wasn't the variant Hanzo defeated. I said SM Naruto would win and disagree with this thread's proposition. But alas... SMD does it once more. You have to realize that insulting and forcing your opinion on everyone and everything doesn't mean you're right. But I'll let you learn that for yourself.



There is no evidence that they had their summonings at the time. They were young and there was no visible Yin Seal from Tsunade, meaning they weren't anywhere near their primes at all. Jiraiya's SM was absent, giving more of a chance that he obtained it later on. And Orochimaru was still "good" at the time.

exactly they were far from were their at now. probably mid level jounin at best.

 

[Xlad]

NarutoIndra and Rinn3gan went SS1 on you.

 

[NarutoIndra]

I wasn't actually talking about Naruto and stuff, I just mean his treatment in general. Can you tell me how top 15 isn't fair?
My point was that he doesn't need feats because what we know about his skills already without further detail or speculation is more than enough.

And yeah of course Madara, Itachi (with intel maybe) and DSM Kabuto beat him -.-

but that's because they're top tier also. You don't understand how tiers work apparently. Also is not being able to beat those 3 really such an insult? They're ridiculously powerful.

Ok I will without [particular order]
1. Naruto BM (FRS, chakra arms from a distance, TBB)
2.Itachi (Amateratsu KO)
3.Sasuke (Amateratsu KO)
4. Obito (does Kamui dimension to avoid poison)
5.Madara (don't need to explain this)
6.Hashirama (don't even need to explain this)
7.Nagato (can levitate, use Shinra Tensei to repel poison, and a forever ongoing list)
8. BM Minato (Can blast a TBB, or use chakra arms from a distance to slice Hanzo up)
9. Onoki (levitate, long range Jinton)
10. Bee (Insta TBB ko)
11.Mu (can levitate, use Jinton from distance)
12. Gaara (can fly with sand, and fight from a range)
13. Deidera (avoids poison by flying)
14. Kakashi (insta-ko with Kamui)
15. Sasori (immune to poison, has iron sand)
Need I go on? I didn't even attempt to insult you.. you were simply being fallacious to believe he was in the same tier as them. It is delusional that you even state Itachi (needs intel/Hanzo can win with intel) since a single Amateratsu is all it takes to end it. Your point is invalid, he is not top 15, speculation doesn't help you see who can and can't beat a character, it can simply give you n overview of where your character stands.

 

[KGB Kakuzu]

He defeated all 6 Pain thats a fact you can't change and He made Nagato change His mind thus He defeated Pain and His plans you defeat a man's plans you defeat the Man, It logical you can't argue against logic, unless you want to go against facts and people who go against fact are spiting against the wind, you get it right back at you.

Actually he defeated a Handicapped Pain.

1. Deva was down.

2. The minute Deva returned, Naruto got wrecked.

3. It took losing control and Kurama taking over to free him.

4. Oh he fought Nagato after he solo'd Konoha


Naruto defeated Pain, but he wasn't stronger.

That's like saying base Naruto > Kakuzu

When we know Base Naruto struggled fighting Kakashi, whom Kakuzu manhandled.