Ppl think Tobi > Madara? What?
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bor3dom3ki115
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Tobi is madara why would he want to kill himself? Lol you'll all find out what I mean eventually. If I'm wrong so be it but if I'm wrong madara wins unless tobi is the first son
It does matter if he has two, having two eyes in an uchiha body > having one eye in a random body (may be uchiha but i don't think so) that's why i think in this battle gedo mazo and the bijuu become madaras and tobi is not so tough without all that
Thanks, I guess. haha
And yeah, to be honest (as I stated in my second post here), Tobi and Madara have shown close to none of what they're truly capable of. We'll have to see what they have in store before making a factual conclusion.
zombiejesus
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some ppl make it seem as if madara is useless lol and other overrate him and the same is done to tobi. Both are top tier shinobi and still have more to show so not final conclusion. i think they both are near equal terms of power
But some ppl say that madara has nothing on tobi's intangibility and he can simply warp madara away. lol madara has 25 clones and with shared vision(seeing as how they have rinnegan), he can't be absorbed easily as the other clones can on instant attack tobi if he tries to absorb madara. Still tobi's s/t jutsu is a huge advantage for him.
And some ppl here were saying madara has a more complete izanagi where did u get that from both of them have senju+uchiha dna and are the closest to the sage's powers.
and tobi cant fight while all his jinks are fighting as we clearly saw against the fight with naruto, bee, kakashi and guy. also madara can amaterasu some of the beasts or control them with mokuton so its not a huge advantage to tobi since madara has mokuton.
they both have rinnegan so its almost like they cancel each other out in that department. bijus is an advantage to tobi but madara has mokuton to counter or even ems techs like amaterasu(like what happened to bee). But tobi has s/t which makes it very hard to harm him but not impossible especially with clones. Also take into consideration hashi's or now madara's mokuton substitution tech perfect tech to trick tobi and get a hit onhim if he tries to get madara. And madara did say only he could see through that tech its a valuable tech against tobi's s/t
Its still not decided but they both have more to show so it cant be fully decided.
But some ppl say that madara has nothing on tobi's intangibility and he can simply warp madara away. lol madara has 25 clones and with shared vision(seeing as how they have rinnegan), he can't be absorbed easily as the other clones can on instant attack tobi if he tries to absorb madara. Still tobi's s/t jutsu is a huge advantage for him.
And some ppl here were saying madara has a more complete izanagi where did u get that from both of them have senju+uchiha dna and are the closest to the sage's powers.
and tobi cant fight while all his jinks are fighting as we clearly saw against the fight with naruto, bee, kakashi and guy. also madara can amaterasu some of the beasts or control them with mokuton so its not a huge advantage to tobi since madara has mokuton.
they both have rinnegan so its almost like they cancel each other out in that department. bijus is an advantage to tobi but madara has mokuton to counter or even ems techs like amaterasu(like what happened to bee). But tobi has s/t which makes it very hard to harm him but not impossible especially with clones. Also take into consideration hashi's or now madara's mokuton substitution tech perfect tech to trick tobi and get a hit onhim if he tries to get madara. And madara did say only he could see through that tech its a valuable tech against tobi's s/t
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Its still not decided but they both have more to show so it cant be fully decided.
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Again, Tobi would probably keep the Bijuus inside Gedo Mazo, where they're more beneficial (no Mokuton restraining them).
And I don't think clones give Madara shared vision; I think its selective to Paths and Summons.
Or else, I agree with what you're saying.
Jade Uchiha
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But that's the thing though: is tobi an uchiha? We know he can keep his sharingan active all day long, like itachi has constantly been shown doing. This is a feat of powerful members of the uchiha clan. But also Tobi has harishma dna, which could possibly help with keeping an active sharingan. Also both him and madara were able to control Kuruma with their sharigans, so at the time of the 9-tails/tobi's attack on the leaf village, his skills with his sharigan matched madara's when he fought the 1st.
USSJ Future Trunks
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water mirror is a problem. magma element is a problem. flight is a problem.
so in the gap while it recharges, he can just use his rinnegan and gedo statue. duh.
mere space time? its the most advanced jutsu we've seen so far. it uses no seals and costs no stamina.
unless you have an attack that keeps attacking constantly for 5 minutes...
onoki beat it with willpower and tobi doesnt need to breath when hes intangible. teleport away from it + touch madara = tobi wins.
he would have indeed have defeated him had naruto not had another giant bijuu and two jounins helping him
madara is slower than minato and KCM naruto
not necessarily. kabuto doesnt have full intel on tobis capabilities or the fact he gave the jins sharingan and rinnegan or the fact he can summon the statue
tobi counters with his own rinnegan
thats not a defeat. tobi was unable to use genjutsu at the time and minato only hurt his arm a bit. contract seal stopped tobi.
hes not trying to kill everyone. hes trying to genjutsu the world and end war
he is using 6 bijuus vs two thousand year old demons, and three 30 year old men.
tobi - controlled kyuubi with base sharingan, rinnegan, genjutsu, space time ninjutsu, gedo mazo, 6 jins, fighting bee naruto kakashi and gated gai alone.
mokubunshins are still a fraction of the originals power. this is alive madara remember
naruTOBoI007
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Depending on which Madara you are talking about. The edo or one that fought the 1st. The edo can basically use rinnegan to stop s/t or use wood release to make clones and fight tobi. The regular Madara will struggle without rinnegan but has the kyubbi. And when tobi saw edo Madara in the box he was pretty shocked so I am going to have to go with Madara with this one.
NarutoNoob1
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Cool thread bro.
And dude the title of the thread has flame wars written all over it (not literally)
The title it self will provoke so many fanboys. So, I will just sit back and watch the screen of my laptop and see how the thread goes.
And dude the title of the thread has flame wars written all over it (not literally)
The title it self will provoke so many fanboys. So, I will just sit back and watch the screen of my laptop and see how the thread goes.
Sigh U_U someone explain to me how madara will touch tob U_U hes intangiblehmmm he could simply pass through susanoo then make himself tangible suck up madara game over U_U or seven beasts vs madara would be funny hm U_U
Seeing how we still do not know the extent of Tobi-his name, history, origin, extent of powers, etc-it's difficult to call this one. You would think since Madara is top 3 and arguably number 1, the manga wouldn't let Tobi win. But who knows what Tobi's history is?