Post final: Madara vs kaguya : Vs hagoromo/hamura : Vs peak old naruto& peakold sasuk

[KidGamer65]

Re: Post final: Madara vs kaguya : Vs hagoromo/hamura : Vs peak old naruto& peakold s

Seriously @KidGamer65 ? I mean Tenseigan chakra mode came from Hamura's chakra along with other Ootsutsuki left in Tenseigan altar weapon along with all Byakugan stocked there.

I hope you don't think that along with awakening Doujutsu you can gain chakra mode or some body power up.
It would go against earlier estabilishied by Kishi's themes and rules of universe.

Toneri was lucky to gain chakra mode which is similliar to six paths sage mode, to be honest I wouldn't be suprised if it was also six paths sage mode but due to lack Bijuu chakra and most likely Kurama it was just manifested in another color.

Toneri awakening Tenseigan only managed to control and absorb all this chakra stocked up along with byakugan into himself to gain chakra mode similliar as six paths sage mode.

So Tenseigan Hamura couldn't be on par with JJ Hagoromo unless he also absorbed whole tenseigan altar power along with byakugan in himself. Also It was never called or addressed as Tensigan chakra mode as far as I remember.

Directly from wiki(reliable source I believe):

The Tenseigan, also known as the Energy Vessel (エネルギー体, Enerugī-tai), is a sacred treasure of the Ōtsutsuki clan, used for millennia to seal the clan's Byakugan to combine their power, as well as collect and amplify natural energy.

^^ see underlined part especially

First of all, I never want to see another member on this forum talk about "kishi's theme of body and eye power up" when half of you people don't even know what in the world you are talking about. Call me when Hamura being able to use TCM breaks a real rule and not some fanmade nonsense like "you can't get Senjutsu from Dojutsu".

-I know where Tenseigan Chakra Mode came from. And that isn't where. Tenseigan was awakened by Hamura, which then became the core of the Energy Vessel. Tenseigan draws no power from the Energy Vessel. That isn't even relevant anyway.

-Toneri's Tenseigan Chakra Mode comes from the Dojutsu he awakened. The energy vessel is separate, once again. :lol It seems that you didn't bother to pay attention to the Last. You quote the wiki yet you don't quote anything that links Tenseigan Chakra Mode to the Energy Vessel. And it's called Tenseigan chakra Mode in the DB that came with the movie. Smh.

Hamura awakened the Tenseigan, which then became the core of the Energy Vessel. The energy vessel produces mass amounts of Nature Energy, which allows Toneri to keep the Moon running as a habitable planet. The Tenseigan Dojutsu is awakened by mixing Ootsutsuki and Hyuuga's powers, which is why Toneri obtained the Tenseigan after stealing Hanabi's eyes. The Tenseigan Dojutsu grants Tenseigan Chakra Mode. Toneri only took energy from the vessel itself when Naruto beat him, and that's after he lost the Tenseigan.

 

[rinnegan human puppet]

Re: Post final: Madara vs kaguya : Vs hagoromo/hamura : Vs peak old naruto& peakold s

Why the massive difference? Because he can supposedly drain chakra from IT victims and empower his PS?

So having or not having Kaguyas dojutsu the original eye thats portrayed as the strongest dojutso in the series, hyped up by hagoromo himself, rinne f*ckn sharingan isn't a massive difference? :lol wth did i just read.

 

[Uchihakil]

Re: Post final: Madara vs kaguya : Vs hagoromo/hamura : Vs peak old naruto& peakold s

Kaguya>JJ Hagoromo>Rinne Sharingan Madara>>>Dual Rinnegan JJ Madara=Hagoromo=Hamura>Peak Naruto=Peak Sasuke.

So Rinne Sharingan Madara beats anyone who isn't JJ Hagoromo and Kaguya, while Dual Rinnegan Madara beats only Naruto and Sasuke, possibly.

Exactly ^^^ this, agreed 100%, unnerfed madz is on that level, as well as the rest of them others

 

[Ambivalence]

Re: Post final: Madara vs kaguya : Vs hagoromo/hamura : Vs peak old naruto& peakold s

So having or not having Kaguyas dojutsu the original eye thats portrayed as the strongest dojutso in the series, hyped up by hagoromo himself, rinne f*ckn sharingan isn't a massive difference? :lol wth did i just read.

Stop quoting me already, retard. I don't recall you ever arguing for the Rinne-Sharringan making a difference in any way except the the IT chakra-drain feat we started giving him until recently which is all his Rinne-Sharringan will ever be recognized of doing, anyway. I wouldn't put it past you to give Madara Amenominaka or YH, though.

 

[Eng nawashi]

Re: Post final: Madara vs kaguya : Vs hagoromo/hamura : Vs peak old naruto& peakold s

Full powered Kaguya w/TSB >3 R JJ Madara w/IT chakra >JJ Hagoromo >2 R JJ Madara >non jin Hagoromo = Tensigen Hamaru >=< RSM Naruto w/AA =Rin Sasuke w/ BPS

 

[rinnegan human puppet]

Re: Post final: Madara vs kaguya : Vs hagoromo/hamura : Vs peak old naruto& peakold s

Stop quoting me already, retard. I don't recall you ever arguing for the Rinne-Sharringan making a difference in any way except the the IT chakra-drain feat we started giving him until recently which is all his Rinne-Sharringan will ever be recognized of doing, anyway. I wouldn't put it past you to give Madara Amenominaka or YH, though.

Calm down goofy. stop downplaying Madara smh.

 

[PIOLO]

Re: Post final: Madara vs kaguya : Vs hagoromo/hamura : Vs peak old naruto& peakold s

First of all, I never want to see another member on this forum talk about "kishi's theme of body and eye power up" when half of you people don't even know what in the world you are talking about. Call me when Hamura being able to use TCM breaks a real rule and not some fanmade nonsense like "you can't get Senjutsu from Dojutsu".

-I know where Tenseigan Chakra Mode came from. And that isn't where. Tenseigan was awakened by Hamura, which then became the core of the Energy Vessel. Tenseigan draws no power from the Energy Vessel. That isn't even relevant anyway.

-Toneri's Tenseigan Chakra Mode comes from the Dojutsu he awakened. The energy vessel is separate, once again. :lol It seems that you didn't bother to pay attention to the Last. You quote the wiki yet you don't quote anything that links Tenseigan Chakra Mode to the Energy Vessel. And it's called Tenseigan chakra Mode in the DB that came with the movie. Smh.

Hamura awakened the Tenseigan, which then became the core of the Energy Vessel. The energy vessel produces mass amounts of Nature Energy, which allows Toneri to keep the Moon running as a habitable planet. The Tenseigan Dojutsu is awakened by mixing Ootsutsuki and Hyuuga's powers, which is why Toneri obtained the Tenseigan after stealing Hanabi's eyes. The Tenseigan Dojutsu grants Tenseigan Chakra Mode. Toneri only took energy from the vessel itself when Naruto beat him, and that's after he lost the Tenseigan.

よいよ機は熟さん。。。！両眼 の ”輪廻眼”を回収し、六道の 真の力を解放するマダラ。両眼から� �たれし鋭き光彩はまさに剛毅果断。� ��たマダラの計画遂行を待ちわびんと 意志を示すが如く、月につぼみを神� �。「輪廻の力を持つ者が月に近づき� ��時、無限の夢を叶えるための月に映 せし眼が開く」 。。。うちは一族の石碑通り、マダ� �の額には「第三の眼」が開眼。 全てを否定し、忌まわしきチャ クラの無き世界を創るため...。 マダラが望んだ,「本当の夢」は今こ� ��に完遂した…はずだった。

An excellent opportunity came to fruition…!! Recovering the “Rinnegan” for both of his eyes, Madara unleashes the true power of the Six Paths! Both of his eyes release a sharp brilliance: they certainly feel dauntless and decisive. Madara was still not tired of waiting for the execution of his plan. As if a testament to his willpower, the Shinjyu (/God Tree) budded. 「When someone who possesses the power of the Rinne (/endless cycle of transmigration) approaches the moon, an eye will open for the sake of granting an infinite dream. Then (that wish) will be reflected upon the moon.」…In accordance with the stone tablet of the Uchiha clan, Madara awakened a 「Third Eye」upon his forehead. He negated everything in order to create a world without abominable chakra… Madara wished for 「a true dream」. (His wish) should have been immediately accomplished there…

 

[PIOLO]

Re: Post final: Madara vs kaguya : Vs hagoromo/hamura : Vs peak old naruto& peakold s

First of all, I never want to see another member on this forum talk about "kishi's theme of body and eye power up" when half of you people don't even know what in the world you are talking about. Call me when Hamura being able to use TCM breaks a real rule and not some fanmade nonsense like "you can't get Senjutsu from Dojutsu".

-I know where Tenseigan Chakra Mode came from. And that isn't where. Tenseigan was awakened by Hamura, which then became the core of the Energy Vessel. Tenseigan draws no power from the Energy Vessel. That isn't even relevant anyway.

-Toneri's Tenseigan Chakra Mode comes from the Dojutsu he awakened. The energy vessel is separate, once again. :lol It seems that you didn't bother to pay attention to the Last. You quote the wiki yet you don't quote anything that links Tenseigan Chakra Mode to the Energy Vessel. And it's called Tenseigan chakra Mode in the DB that came with the movie. Smh.

Hamura awakened the Tenseigan, which then became the core of the Energy Vessel. The energy vessel produces mass amounts of Nature Energy, which allows Toneri to keep the Moon running as a habitable planet. The Tenseigan Dojutsu is awakened by mixing Ootsutsuki and Hyuuga's powers, which is why Toneri obtained the Tenseigan after stealing Hanabi's eyes. The Tenseigan Dojutsu grants Tenseigan Chakra Mode. Toneri only took energy from the vessel itself when Naruto beat him, and that's after he lost the Tenseigan.

よいよ機は熟さん。。。！両眼 の ”輪廻眼”を回収し、六道の 真の力を解放するマダラ。両眼から� �たれし鋭き光彩はまさに剛毅果断。� ��たマダラの計画遂行を待ちわびんと 意志を示すが如く、月につぼみを神� �。「輪廻の力を持つ者が月に近づき� ��時、無限の夢を叶えるための月に映 せし眼が開く」 。。。うちは一族の石碑通り、マダ� �の額には「第三の眼」が開眼。 全てを否定し、忌まわしきチャ クラの無き世界を創るため...。 マダラが望んだ,「本当の夢」は今こ� ��に完遂した…はずだった。

An excellent opportunity came to fruition…!! Recovering the “Rinnegan” for both of his eyes, Madara unleashes the true power of the Six Paths! Both of his eyes release a sharp brilliance: they certainly feel dauntless and decisive. Madara was still not tired of waiting for the execution of his plan. As if a testament to his willpower, the Shinjyu (/God Tree) budded. 「When someone who possesses the power of the Rinne (/endless cycle of transmigration) approaches the moon, an eye will open for the sake of granting an infinite dream. Then (that wish) will be reflected upon the moon.」…In accordance with the stone tablet of the Uchiha clan, Madara awakened a 「Third Eye」upon his forehead. He negated everything in order to create a world without abominable chakra… Madara wished for 「a true dream」. (His wish) should have been immediately accomplished there…

CLEAR STATEMENT FROM KISHIMOTO DOUBLE RINNEGAN IS EQUAL TO SO6P; THEREFORE WITH THE UNLOCK RINNESHARINGAN, MADARA IS MUCH MORE THAN SO6P TO OFFER

 

[PIOLO]

Re: Post final: Madara vs kaguya : Vs hagoromo/hamura : Vs peak old naruto& peakold s

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Section Title 1

六道の力

The power of the Rikudou (/Six Paths)


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よいよ機は熟さん。。。！両眼 の ”輪廻眼”を回収し、六道の 真の力を解放するマダラ。両眼から放たれし鋭き光彩はまさに剛毅果断。またマダラの計画遂行を待ちわびんと意志を示すが如く、月につぼみを神樹。「輪廻の力を持つ者が月に近づきし時、無限の夢を叶えるための月に映せし眼が開く」 。。。うちは一族の石碑通り、マダラの額には「第三の眼」が開眼。 全てを否定し、忌まわしきチャ クラの無き世界を創るため...。 マダラが望んだ,「本当の夢」は今ここに完遂した…はずだった。

An excellent opportunity came to fruition…!! Recovering the “Rinnegan” for both of his eyes, Madara unleashes the true power of the Six Paths! Both of his eyes release a sharp brilliance: they certainly feel dauntless and decisive. Madara was still not tired of waiting for the execution of his plan. As if a testament to his willpower, the Shinjyu (/God Tree) budded. 「When someone who possesses the power of the Rinne (/endless cycle of transmigration) approaches the moon, an eye will open for the sake of granting an infinite dream. Then (that wish) will be reflected upon the moon.」…In accordance with the stone tablet of the Uchiha clan, Madara awakened a 「Third Eye」upon his forehead. He negated everything in order to create a world without abominable chakra… Madara wished for 「a true dream」. (His wish) should have been immediately accomplished there…


Top Caption

神樹、十尾を取り込み、マダラの手で全てのチャクラが還元される!
By taking in the Jyuubi and the Shinjyu, all of the chakra was restored by Madara’s own hands!


Middle Caption

”無限月読” 発動直後、闇に浮かびし姿は、大筒木カグヤ。。。！！

Immediately after invoking the “Infinite Tsukuyomi”, a figure is suspended in the darkness. It’s Otsutsuki Kaguya…!!


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ナルト達の抵抗を退け、マタラが思う 「皆の 幸せ」のため、己が信じる正義を貫かんとする!

Retreating from the opposition of Naruto and his comrades, Madara thought that he (should try to employ the kind of) justice that he believed in! It was in order to achieve 「Everyone's Happiness」, (which was his version of an ideal) that he had been thinking about.

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[PIOLO]

Re: Post final: Madara vs kaguya : Vs hagoromo/hamura : Vs peak old naruto& peakold s

Page 63

Spoiler

Section Title 1

六道の力

The power of the Rikudou (/Six Paths)


Main Body

よいよ機は熟さん。。。！両眼 の ”輪廻眼”を回収し、六道の 真の力を解放するマダラ。両眼から放たれし鋭き光彩はまさに剛毅果断。またマダラの計画遂行を待ちわびんと意志を示すが如く、月につぼみを神樹。「輪廻の力を持つ者が月に近づきし時、無限の夢を叶えるための月に映せし眼が開く」 。。。うちは一族の石碑通り、マダラの額には「第三の眼」が開眼。 全てを否定し、忌まわしきチャ クラの無き世界を創るため...。 マダラが望んだ,「本当の夢」は今ここに完遂した…はずだった。

An excellent opportunity came to fruition…!! Recovering the “Rinnegan” for both of his eyes, Madara unleashes the true power of the Six Paths! Both of his eyes release a sharp brilliance: they certainly feel dauntless and decisive. Madara was still not tired of waiting for the execution of his plan. As if a testament to his willpower, the Shinjyu (/God Tree) budded. 「When someone who possesses the power of the Rinne (/endless cycle of transmigration) approaches the moon, an eye will open for the sake of granting an infinite dream. Then (that wish) will be reflected upon the moon.」…In accordance with the stone tablet of the Uchiha clan, Madara awakened a 「Third Eye」upon his forehead. He negated everything in order to create a world without abominable chakra… Madara wished for 「a true dream」. (His wish) should have been immediately accomplished there…


Top Caption

神樹、十尾を取り込み、マダラの手で全てのチャクラが還元される!
By taking in the Jyuubi and the Shinjyu, all of the chakra was restored by Madara’s own hands!


Middle Caption

”無限月読” 発動直後、闇に浮かびし姿は、大筒木カグヤ。。。！！

Immediately after invoking the “Infinite Tsukuyomi”, a figure is suspended in the darkness. It’s Otsutsuki Kaguya…!!


Bottom Caption

ナルト達の抵抗を退け、マタラが思う 「皆の 幸せ」のため、己が信じる正義を貫かんとする!

Retreating from the opposition of Naruto and his comrades, Madara thought that he (should try to employ the kind of) justice that he believed in! It was in order to achieve 「Everyone's Happiness」, (which was his version of an ideal) that he had been thinking about.




@BOLD: KISHI SAID DOUBLE RINNEGAN IS EQUAL TO SO6P; THEREFORE WITH THE UNLOCK RINNESHARINGAN, MADARA IS MUCH MORE THAN SO6P TO OFFER

 

[Ootoriyu Jin]

Re: Post final: Madara vs kaguya : Vs hagoromo/hamura : Vs peak old naruto& peakold s

How does one post 4 times of the same shit after editing two of those posts.

 

[PIOLO]

Re: Post final: Madara vs kaguya : Vs hagoromo/hamura : Vs peak old naruto& peakold s

How does one post 4 times of the same shit after editing two of those posts.

Sorry my bad just edit in my Sony Xperia z2

 

[KidGamer65]

Re: Post final: Madara vs kaguya : Vs hagoromo/hamura : Vs peak old naruto& peakold s

Stop wanking. "Hagoromo"=Hagoromo w/o the Juubi.

 

[EZQ]

Re: Post final: Madara vs kaguya : Vs hagoromo/hamura : Vs peak old naruto& peakold s

Prime Kaguya > Post birth Kaguya ~ Powered up Kaguya >=JJ Hagoromo > urestricted JJ Three eyes Madara ~ Initial Kaguya > Post Jin Hagoromo ~ Tenseigan Hamura > unrestricted JJ DRG Madara ~ Adult RSM Naruto~ Adult Rinnegan Sasuke > vote 2 peak RSM Naruto with NE/Bijuu Sussano Rinnegan Sasuke > The last Naruto/Sasuke ~ Pre jin Hagoromo ~ vote 2 RSM Naruto/Rinnegan Sasuke ~ Byakugan Hamura > post Shinju JJ one-RG Madara >=Initial RSM Naruto/Rinnegan Sasuke > Pre Shinjuu JJ one-RG Madara.

Note that, Hagoromo stating "Kaguya was stronger then anyone else" reffer to her having all the chakra in the world minus fragments of her huge chakra pool being given to Hagoromo and Hamura at their birth.

That Kaguya is on par with powered up Kaguya at the end of battle against Kaguya. Both Adults Naruto and Sasuke both made who Post JJ Hagoromo is..., so Madara at the best would be on par with Post JJ Hagoromo...

Really?

 

[KCMNaruto]

Re: Post final: Madara vs kaguya : Vs hagoromo/hamura : Vs peak old naruto& peakold s

Really?

Yeah really, if it wasn't for alternative version of six paths sage mode which Toneri acquired by absorbbing senjutsu chakra , the same method Hamura used it most likely then Tenseigan is only equal to Rinnegan or RSM alone not both of them.

JJ Hagoromo stomps and Post Hagoromo is on par with Tenseigan Hamura.

 

[PIOLO]

Re: Post final: Madara vs kaguya : Vs hagoromo/hamura : Vs peak old naruto& peakold s

Stop wanking. "Hagoromo"=Hagoromo w/o the Juubi.

there's a plenty of unknown power for both of them.... we didn't know the extent of their full capabilities.. let alone kishi who was the author of series decide

from databook : the official truth / facts about naruto decide:

3. よいよ機は熟さん。。。！両眼 の ”輪廻眼”を回収し、六道の 真の力を解放するマダラ。両眼から� � �� �� �たれし鋭き光彩はまさに剛毅果断� � �� �� ��たマダラの計画遂行を待ちわび� � �� �と 意志を示すが如く、月につぼみを神� � �� �� �。「輪廻の力を持つ者が月に近づ� � �� �� ��時、無限の夢を叶えるための月� � �� �映 せし眼が開く」 。。。うちは一族の石碑通り、マダ� � �� �� �の額には「第三の眼」が開眼。 全てを否定し、忌まわしきチャ クラの無き世界を創るため...。 マダラが望んだ,「本当の夢」は今こ� �� �� �� ��に完遂した…はずだった。

An excellent opportunity came to fruition…!! Recovering the “Rinnegan” for both of his eyes, Madara unleashes the true power of the Sage of Six Paths!

therefore,

double rinnegan madara = peak SO6P

then,

rinnesharingan mads>peak so6p

 

[PIOLO]

Re: Post final: Madara vs kaguya : Vs hagoromo/hamura : Vs peak old naruto& peakold s

Stop wanking. "Hagoromo"=Hagoromo w/o the Juubi.

there's a plenty of unknown power for both of them.... we didn't know the extent of their full capabilities.. let alone kishi who was the author of series decide

from databook : the official truth / facts about naruto decide:

3. よいよ機は熟さん。。。！両眼 の ”輪廻眼”を回収し、六道の 真の力を解放するマダラ。両眼から� � �� �� �たれし鋭き光彩はまさに剛毅果断� � �� �� ��たマダラの計画遂行を待ちわび� � �� �と 意志を示すが如く、月につぼみを神� � �� �� �。「輪廻の力を持つ者が月に近づ� � �� �� ��時、無限の夢を叶えるための月� � �� �映 せし眼が開く」 。。。うちは一族の石碑通り、マダ� � �� �� �の額には「第三の眼」が開眼。 全てを否定し、忌まわしきチャ クラの無き世界を創るため...。 マダラが望んだ,「本当の夢」は今こ� �� �� �� ��に完遂した…はずだった。

An excellent opportunity came to fruition…!! Recovering the “Rinnegan” for both of his eyes, Madara unleashes the true power of the Sage of Six Paths!

therefore,

double rinnegan madara = peak SO6P

then,

rinnesharingan mads>peak so6p

 

[KidGamer65]

Re: Post final: Madara vs kaguya : Vs hagoromo/hamura : Vs peak old naruto& peakold s

Yeah really, if it wasn't for alternative version of six paths sage mode which Toneri acquired by absorbbing senjutsu chakra , the same method Hamura used it most likely then Tenseigan is only equal to Rinnegan or RSM alone not both of them.

JJ Hagoromo stomps and Post Hagoromo is on par with Tenseigan Hamura.

What a retard. :lol Already made a thread about the same BS that I countered yet we are still here crying about Tenseigan Chakra Mode comes from the altar. Not gonna bother with the Madara fanboy.

 

[Warlocks]

Re: Post final: Madara vs kaguya : Vs hagoromo/hamura : Vs peak old naruto& peakold s

Kaguya is strongest of all

 

[Lord Tywin]

Re: Post final: Madara vs kaguya : Vs hagoromo/hamura : Vs peak old naruto& peakold s

Implying that rinnegan Madara is =to base Hagoromo is like saying Madara has Hagoromo's chakra reserve and potency, which is false as it can be.