[Discussion] Please Explain: Yin = Quality, Yang = Quantity... Why?

[ANiMUS]

I am currently working on a theory and this ^^^ is a question I need help with. So if you could would you please explain this theory to me and provide scans if possible.

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Thank you

 

[ObitoKarin]

If you thinking about the Nine Tails then I'm guessing that both halves will make the full Nine Tails meaning the complete transformation instead of a transparent one. Just think of it like two halves = a whole. That's how I was picturing it lol

 

[Huzaifa]

I never heard of this before. In naruto manga yang is life force and yin is like imagination and genjutsu( ik it means reality also) Can you explain what you mean? Btw yin yang in folk lore are opposites that balance the universe. If I remember correctly yin is bad and yang is good. Oh yeah they can't be separated and couple of other things. The world needs to be balanced and the balance of yin and yang keeps it like that.
I might be wrong so don't just go by me as i haven't checked things for a long time.

 

[Sir Blades]

Never seen such assumptions being made over yin and yang. I can't provide scans, i hope someone does cause it has sparked my interest, and when you are done with your theory i would like to see it.

 

[Ventalus]

In my beliefs then this does make both sense but at the same time it does not.

Yin and Yang are opposites to each others. Etc :

Cold & Warm
Dark & Light
Tall & Short
Spiritually & Physically
Negative & Positive.
Elder & Younger

Yin normally represent the "dark" side of something meanwhile Yang represent the "light" side of something. Etc Hatreds (Yin) and Love (Yang).

So Quality and Quantity are not quite same until you count in that Quality has a good (Yang since it is positive) informed information meanwhile the Quantity does not have a good informed information (Yin since it is negative). That would be the thing that matches otherwise in my beliefs of Yin and Yang.

But the most interesting thing with Yin and Yang is that everything around us seems being based with one or another thing. Everything you see around you has a opposite to it. But also that 2 total opposite things can create something new. Etc Lava (warm) and Water (cold) creates new earth/ground.

This will probably not say so much since it comes from my own beliefs of Yin and Yang after reading some short amount of texts of Yin and Yang.

 

[ANiMUS]

I never heard of this before. In naruto manga yang is life force and yin is like imagination and genjutsu( ik it means reality also) Can you explain what you mean? Btw yin yang in folk lore are opposites that balance the universe. If I remember correctly yin is bad and yang is good. Oh yeah they can't be separated and couple of other things. The world needs to be balanced and the balance of yin and yang keeps it like that.
I might be wrong so don't just go by me as i haven't checked things for a long time.

Yin which is spiritual energy (concentration/ imagination) Yang which is physical energy ( stamina/ strength) together these energies create life energy or chakra. However when mentioning the elder and younger on of the sage or even the Uchiha and senju it is the consensus that the Uchiha's powerful chakra is attributed to high yin and the senju's large amounts of chakra is attributed to their high yang

 

[ObitoKarin]

Here is the best I can come up with.
As other have said, Yin and Yang are opposites, however I believe the those opposites create a whole.
Here is shows Naruto and Minato who both hold the Nine Tail's power. It was even shown that they both have half of it. I forget which has which, I just think Minato has Yin and Naruto has Yang.

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Then, when they are connect in a way (Such as the fist bump) They become whole.

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This is the best I can show as an example because it is kind of a hard question to answer.

Basically, they are a quantities because they complete one another. Both Spirituality and Physicality creates a balance.

 

[OWanime]

if you're asking why each one has its role and it's not reversed then that's just kishi but if you're referring to their meaning then it's yin for shape or form and yang for chakra/ energy (life force) xd

 

[FemmeFatale]

Sakura- yin
Perfect Chakra control
Lacking of Stamina.
Uses only as much chakra as need.
Strong mind (intellect and will power)
Genjutsu type.

Naruto (yang) Part 1
Large Reserves
Crap at Chakra control
Weak at Genjutsu
Dimwitted.
Strong Stamina
almost Instant recovery

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[Sir Blades]

Sakura- yin
Perfect Chakra control
Lacking of Stamina.
Uses only as much chakra as need.
Strong mind (intellect and will power)
Genjutsu type.

Naruto (yang) Part 1
Large Reserves
Crap at Chakra control
Weak at Genjutsu
Dimwitted.
Strong Stamina
almost Instant recovery

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You always put sakura in a thread that has nothing to do with her my fair lady.

 

[sagemode07]

Sakura- yin
Perfect Chakra control
Lacking of Stamina.
Uses only as much chakra as need.
Strong mind (intellect and will power)
Genjutsu type.

Naruto (yang) Part 1
Large Reserves
Crap at Chakra control
Weak at Genjutsu
Dimwitted.
Strong Stamina
almost Instant recovery

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You were a little blunt on naruto (lmao)

But yes, I agree with femme. Use dis ish.

 

[D R E X]

Forget what Femme said ..

OT : it's basically like this ...yin are the one who are blessed mentally while the yang are blessed physically by NV logic ..it has nothing to

do with Sakura . The only example you should take is , Sasuke and Naruto .​

 

[ANiMUS]

Sakura- yin
Perfect Chakra control
Lacking of Stamina.
Uses only as much chakra as need.
Strong mind (intellect and will power)
Genjutsu type.

Naruto (yang) Part 1
Large Reserves
Crap at Chakra control
Weak at Genjutsu
Dimwitted.
Strong Stamina
almost Instant recovery

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Origato, this was actually a scan I was looking for. The info is good as well tho Sakura related par usual. Still, I am more focused on high concentrations of yin or yang and their effect on chakra

 

[VongolaX]

Zetsu is the best explanation here

Notice the quantity of white zetsus 100,000 that re-act to yang chakra.

Which equals one black zetsu

Hashirama- quantity of chakra, white zetsu mass produce with low quality

Madara-powerful chakra, black zetsu force out higher quality of mokuton via white.

 

[GhostProject]

Idk if it works like this, but if Yin can be like planning and Yang can be acting on it, then in the case of making and following through with the plan, Yin energies would be the precision from planning/thought and Yang energies would be the actions required to carry it out.

So, loosely Yin determines the quality of the action and Yang determines the whether the action gets performed (quantity)?

 

[FemmeFatale]

You always put sakura in a thread that has nothing to do with her my fair lady.

She did, Kishi made the mistake of making her the yin type and making Sasuke both in the group, when it should've been then other way around, but she lacked stamina.

You were a little blunt on naruto (lmao)

But yes, I agree with femme. Use dis ish.

Lol, Im sorry, I was just comparing him to Sakura.

Forget what Femme said ..

OT : it's basically like this ...yin are the one who are blessed mentally while the yang are blessed physically by NV logic ..it has nothing to

do with Sakura . The only example you should take is , Sasuke and Naruto .​

I basically said that.
Sakura was the smart and skilled one.
Naruto was the one with the chakra.

Origato, this was actually a scan I was looking for. The info is good as well tho Sakura related par usual. Still, I am more focused on high concentrations of yin or yang and their effect on chakra

Glad I cant help
when you think of yin, think Sakura a Genjustu type.
She havent shown any but she was orginally suppose to, to have a contrast in the tea,
those attacks are yin natured. (though in part two she became a yang type ninja like Tsunade...through Medical Ninjutsu and her strength.

Naruto Shadow clones, and what not are yang natured,like shikamaru shadow possesion jutsu too.

 

[Huzaifa]

Yin which is spiritual energy (concentration/ imagination) Yang which is physical energy ( stamina/ strength) together these energies create life energy or chakra. However when mentioning the elder and younger on of the sage or even the Uchiha and senju it is the consensus that the Uchiha's powerful chakra is attributed to high yin and the senju's large amounts of chakra is attributed to their high yang

But where does quality and quantity come from?

 

[Huzaifa]

Ok I am on phone so I can't edit. I see now where you are getting. Naruto and hashi chackra is also said to be extremely strong. Same for kushina and nagato. So this is not true always. Then this might be true for naruto but no where else is yin and yang like that. Yin and yang aren't quality or quantity. Yin release is the idea. Yang release makes it real life force baisically. So thats yin yang release. You need both as one can't happan without the other. Does this answer your question?

 

[ANiMUS]

But where does quality and quantity come from?

Thats my problem, in all honesty I think I have pretty much figured out what I need. The prior theory on yin and yang is false or at least over simplified. Still, before I state something widely excepted as false I need find as many counters to my argument as possible so that I can refine it as best I can.

 

[ANiMUS]

Ok I am on phone so I can't edit. I see now where you are getting. Naruto and hashi chackra is also said to be extremely strong. Same for kushina and nagato. So this is not true always. Then this might be true for naruto but no where else is yin and yang like that. Yin and yang aren't quality or quantity. Yin release is the idea. Yang release makes it real life force baisically. So thats yin yang release. You need both as one can't happan without the other. Does this answer your question?

This actually falls more in line with my own thinking, but I won't be able to do a complete thread till Monday when my internet is fixed ( I'm also on my phone)