Yes because her chakra was weak, Naruto had to learn how to control lagr volumes of chakra as well as having it disrupted by Kurama at the same time, meanwhile Sasuke had to learn how to control his potent chakra, eventually with experience they surpassed Sakura before she ever met Tsunade, Hinata was stronger than her at that point.
Then let's all go back to the fact that Naruto using a simple rasengan is the highest form of shape manipulation, and then Rasen shuriken tops that, and then look at FRS during the War Arc which is Bijuu sized. Kishimoto whether indirectly or not implied that Naruto's shape manipulation is beyond comprehension of the beyond average specimen.
To me everything went downhill with MS/Rinnegan/KCM/BM
If the fights consisted of 3T/Sage Mode with restrictions still like five minute use, and for Sasuke - strain after long periods of usage. Then Naruto would be more balanced. Though with EMS which basically allows you to spam moves consistently, and BM which allows you to draw chakra and do moves with an almost never ending source. The author can freely do anything.
I prefer longer usages of Sage Mode,and no strain for Sasuke.They didn't need those restrictions forever.Them getting to a level where that didn't happen is good.There's always the restriction of chakra levels which could play apart.
Post was destroyed in first post, now begins the question of who has best chakra control in team 7.
Naruto > Sasuke > Sakura > Kakashi in chakra control.
Correct or nah?
I kinda thought of Kirin as chakra shape manipulation because uses a very small portion of his chakra to shape lightning into a dragon. The "taming" lightning statement might be an exagerration because I honestly wonder how Sasuke pulled that off.
Post was destroyed in first post, now begins the question of who has best chakra control in team 7.
Naruto > Sasuke > Sakura > Kakashi in chakra control.
Correct or nah?
Nah.
Sakura has the feats. Even has long term chakra controlling feats while performing multiple jutsu at once
Sasuke uses his eye.
Naruto has help, from the tailed beast.
Sasuke maintaining a susanoo is a good feat, but Sakura doesn't really use Large Scale attacks, I just her and Tsunade maintaining a foot hold for everyone is comparable.
I prefer longer usages of Sage Mode,and no strain for Sasuke.They didn't need those restrictions forever.Them getting to a level where that didn't happen is good.There's always the restriction of chakra levels which could play apart.
I don't like it because it takes away from their base abilities and growth. Sasuke in base would have to rely on speed, Kenjutsu, Fire-style (which he rarely uses), and more of his chidori variants.
For Naruto, Kishimoto would have had no choice but to develop Naruto in Speed, Taijutsu, more Ninjutsu techniques, etc.,
I don't like it because it takes away from their base abilities and growth. Sasuke in base would have to rely on speed, Kenjutsu, Fire-style (which he rarely uses), and more of his chidori variants.
For Naruto, Kishimoto would have had no choice but to develop Naruto in Speed, Taijutsu, more Ninjutsu techniques, etc.,
Post was destroyed in first post, now begins the question of who has best chakra control in team 7.
Naruto > Sasuke > Sakura > Kakashi in chakra control.
Correct or nah?
I don't like it because it takes away from their base abilities and growth. Sasuke in base would have to rely on speed, Kenjutsu, Fire-style (which he rarely uses), and more of his chidori variants.
For Naruto, Kishimoto would have had no choice but to develop Naruto in Speed, Taijutsu, more Ninjutsu techniques, etc.,
Sasuke barely used Fire Style after fighting Itachi because he switched to Enton,and look at who his opponents were in the War,Kabuto,Obito,Madara,Kaguya,and Naruto.
Fire style on Uchiha's,and Kaguya is as useless as Genjutsu - and Naruto has his chakra cloak.
What exactly are you trying to prove by sending me back to page 1? My browser doesn't have the ability to find the post your trying to link me to. So try posting it here instead.
Edit : I did see your post, but it doesn't make much sense, Kurama never said Sasuke's chakra control was on par with Hago's, he said that the way he was using the tailed beast was on par with Hago's way.
The tailed beast can't help him control chakra, in fact, back when they were all learning to climb trees with their chakra, Kakashi noted Naruto being the worst at it because he had too much chakra from the tailed beast, which means before he befriended kurama, he had to learn to better his chakra control with his huge reserves, only after BM was he getting help from the bijuu.
Sasuke maintaining a susanoo is a good feat, but Sakura doesn't really use Large Scale attacks, I just her and Tsunade maintaining a foot hold for everyone is comparable.
Kirin isn't Shape Manipulation.It literally uses Lightning rather than transform the users chakra into Lightning.
Well Sakura does have perfect chakra control.It's required to be a medic ninja
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And you may remember how at the beginning of the story during the Tree climbing training,Sakura made it to the top on her first try,cause she had great chakra control,meanwhile Naruto and Sasuke had to work hard for days.You should give her some credit,she became one of the top Shinobi through hardwork,not even being a transmigrant or coming from a special clan.
1) I think most of you are mixing up concepts. Chakra Control and Shape Manipulation are not the exact same thing. Chakra Control has more to do with the flow of chakra (inside and outside the chakra coils) and the efficiency of it's use (like how Ebisu said that Naruto wasted too much chakra, ie. used more chakra than Sakura and Sasuke would use for the same jutsu).
Shape Manipulation is something different. For instance, Naruto's rasengan is the pinnacle of shape manipulation (because Naruto rotates chakra in two different different diractions while compressing it into a perfect sphere at the same time) yet at the same time Naruto's chakra control was so poor that he had to use a shadow clone to help him 'control' the jutsu.
Basically this, Minato, Jiraiya, and Naruto ALL reached the pinnacle of shape manipulation when they mastered rasengan but only Jiraiya and Minato had good chakra control because they could do it one handed in an instant. Naruto's chakra control was bad hence needing a shadow clone to help him and more shadow clones to create distractions for him to land it coz he couldn't whoop it out in an instant (because of poort chakra control).
I hope this clarifies things a bit. Chakra Control and Shape Manipulation are not the same thing.
Ps. Try not to overate Sakura. There is absolutely NO proof that her chakra control is NATURALLY better than Sasuke's or Naruto's. Kakashi explained this clearly, that Sakura's chakra was easier to control because of LOW chakra reserves. That Sasuke struggled because it was difficult to control higher chakra reserves and that Naruto struggled even more because his was four times the size of Kakashi's chakra level (not to mention that Kyubi was interfering with Naruto's control).
Not saying Sakura don't have perfect control, jus saying, but that don't mean she more talented at chakra control then those two, especially after war arc feats.
-rasengan is the pinnacle of shape manip.
-kirin uses decent shape, but is the pinnacle of *nature manip.
-rasenshuriken is the pinnacle of shape AND nature manip.
-all ninjutsu require ''chakra control''
