Bit difficult to understand Super Kami Guru, but since you're responding to my post, I'll respond to yours.
"youre taking everything at literal word base..... which you cant, cause if you do than hiruzen is the god shinobi and all pale in comparison...."
If you both read and understood any of points 1 through 4, you would know that I all but stated that multiple interpretations of the manga exist. The first part of this claim is inaccurate. The hiruzen thing is a poor example; it appeared hundreds of chapters ago, and we are right to question it's continuing validity. Questioning the validity of the chapters of the past few weeks, which is what I used to support my post save one, is ridiculous. The entirely of this claim is poorly thought out.
"1. he says experience why people FEARED HIS NAME! which was state when he was revived that tobi was using his name because it inspires fear not because it pretains to him having PS"
I am not sure I understand this claim. If you're saying that Madara said what he did to intimidate the kages, then I reply that while this may be in fact true, it does not mean that he cannot also be referring to PS. In any case, it would be extremely stupid, and therefore out of character, for Madara to attempt to intimidate the five kage using his name, when revealing that he has Hashirama's powers failed to do so. Furthermore, it would be pointless to intimidate them using his name, because he was about to release PS; that would be far scarier than Madara's name. I don't find this claim to be logical.
"2.He is the master of the sharingan and he has used it before..... He had rinnegan for a some time before dying like he said to kabuto when talking through muu"
Correct me if I'm wrong but the first sentence seems like you agree with me. The next one actually helps my argument. Madara did not have 'some time' with the Rinnegan; he awakened it "shortly before [his] death.'
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So while dying Madara decides to use a massive amount of chakra to activate and perfect PS? This seems unlikely, especially given the oddly specific claims of it's power that I mentioned.
"3.he says who maps redrawn thing cause after their battles as clans the create a ****ing village which created nations aka creating countries i fail to see that relevance to PS. He says that to show he is demi-godlike compared to the 5 "strongest" ninjas of the villages...."
The relevance to PS is that it is the only tech Madara has demonstrated that can reshape the landscape. As for the creation of the leaf village; not only is it unlikely to be what Madara is referring to, seeing as the reason he said it was to boast of his power (as you yourself state), we have already seen him alter the landscape. You talk about the clans; Madara mentioned none, only him and Hashirama. I don't find this claim to be logical.
'4.why does oonoki asking madara why he went easy on him mean madara had PS instead of why madara didnt just kill oonoki flat out? It just shows that Madara couldve destroyed him than and still can now..'
That is one possible interpretation of what Onoki says, but context makes it unlikely to be accurate. Onoki saw everything Madara presented up till now, including Hashirama's powers and Rinnegan techs, without saying this. Immediately after seeing PS, he says the line. The logical interpretation would be, 'why didn't you use PS against me?'. Again, the interpretation you propose is less likely than mine given the context.
"5. The whole bijuu can withstand the attack sets up for the incoming naruto vs sasuke fight that will come which everyone agrees is after they get their powerups'
First I should point out that "The whole bijuu can withstand the attack" is not at all the line that appears in the manga. Similarly to the first point, both this and my interpretation can be simultaneously true. However, you've placed yourself in a bit of a bind by saying this.
1. You say that Sasuke will get the PS, and you that that PS requires Rinnegan.
2. Therefore, you say that Sasuke will get the Rinnegan.
3. However, it's pretty clear that Madara required Hashirama's power to awaken the Rinnegan. He awakened it shortly before his death; he died fighting Hashirama. The So6P sons were the ancestors of the pair; combining their powers logically brings them closer to the original.
4. Sasuke does not have access to Hashirama's power, or any Senju power atm, as he is on the battlefield.
5. Therefore, Sasuke cannot awaken the Rinnegan, and therefore cannot get PS according to you.
6. However, you say that Sasuke will have PS to fight Naruto!
Solution: PS is an EMS tech
. In this case there is no contradiction. Just saiyan.
"6. because ems is just an MS that doesnt make the user go blind (aka a new MS with no draw-backs to its abuse) and theyve done every tech he has done except PS and the only difference between sasuke and madara IS THE RINNEGAN"
If I understand this claim, you are directly contradicting the manga quote I posted. The quote is, 'EMS gives birth to a completely new doujutsu', and you say that it does not. I'm sorry, but I can't take seriously any claim that directly contradicts the manga. In case it's what's causing the confusion, Dou means Eye in Japanese, and Jutsu means Technique. The line is in fact referring to an actual technique, with a special eye as a prerequisite to use.
'so swing and a miss.... refuted all points'
You really shouldn't say stuff like this. We're supposed to be here to debate, so saying I'm 100% wrong before I respond to what you say is just out of place.
I should add that:
2. 'This is Uchiha Madara's strength.' Same reasoning as for 'the full power of Uchiha Madara.'
was not replied to, so I for now I assume no counter argument comes to mind.
A final point, I referenced the manga several times in my post; by contrast, your post frequently relies on unlikely or illogical interpretations of it, and on two occasions directly contradicts the manga. Food for thought?
